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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 24 2011 12:33 GMT
#1241
I'm worried about RE0 durability issues so I am probably gonna be going for the Etymotics HF5 for my classical music collection. They come with great isolation too!

http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_cp_e_2
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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
April 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#1242
Bought a FiiO e7 the other day. Should be here by Tuesday I think.
Gonna pair it with my PK1s and see how they do, supposedly it helps a lot
Bulldozer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States89 Posts
April 24 2011 16:08 GMT
#1243
I hate to be one of "those guys", but I don't follow the market and have little knowledge on the subject of amps, but can anyone recommend a solid amp in the < $100 range?
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nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
April 24 2011 17:28 GMT
#1244
On April 25 2011 01:08 Bulldozer wrote:
I hate to be one of "those guys", but I don't follow the market and have little knowledge on the subject of amps, but can anyone recommend a solid amp in the < $100 range?


The Fiio E7 fall on the price range that you are looking at. They are solid amps for their price and a lot of audiophiles seem to like them. I'm also planning on buying one for my self.
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dopesauce
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
52 Posts
April 24 2011 17:30 GMT
#1245
On April 24 2011 21:33 writer22816 wrote:
I'm worried about RE0 durability issues so I am probably gonna be going for the Etymotics HF5 for my classical music collection. They come with great isolation too!

http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_cp_e_2


Hope you got some insurance or coverage. Owned three pairs and they all tore after a couple of months. I go through headphones like butter though.
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
April 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#1246
What kind of difference would I hope to see with a Fiio E7? I'm running my SRH840s through onboard audio/ipod currently
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 24 2011 17:50 GMT
#1247
iPod should be mostly fine unless (1) you're running out of volume (not enough output voltage, so starts to clip), but that shouldn't happen with SRH840 unless you're listening at really high levels, or (2) it's being used to drive some low-impedance balanced-armature IEMs that have really varying impedance over frequency, which is problematic for a source with non-negligible output impedance. That's not to say it's the best ever, but driving something like an SRH840, I don't think there should be any glaring problems that would be fixed by switching to a different source.

Do you notice any differences between the onboard audio and iPod?

Anyway, apparently this guy is about to publish a Fiio E7 review, so stay tuned:
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/
ThinJ
Profile Joined April 2011
United States58 Posts
April 24 2011 20:30 GMT
#1248
I paired DT990~600ohm
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with a Little Dot MKIII
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And have been happy as can be ever since.

I also have Senn 280 Pro's, HD595's, a pair of Beyer DT770 Pro-80's, and a few various pairs of IEM's and earbud phones from Sennheiser and Etymotic.
Mostly a lurker.
meutkill
Profile Joined March 2011
United States10 Posts
April 24 2011 22:53 GMT
#1249
Sharkoon X-Tatic SP

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Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 22:16:48
April 25 2011 21:13 GMT
#1250
So hey guys! I'm new to this scene and I just ordered my first pair of decent headphones, the sennheiser hd448's (after much thought).
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I've been reading a lot about headphone amplifiers, and I'm not sure if i need one, so i decided to turn to my most trusted ally, teamliquid. My questions are, for the 448's running off of my (stock) computer or my ipod classic (6g), do I need an amplifier?
Secondly, will a cheap amp like the FiiO E5's do anything at all for my headset? Is it worth spending another $100 on a decent amp?

Thanks a lot and please feel free to PM me about anything.

EDIT: Do i need to burn these in or will they burn in naturally pretty well?
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 23:36:50
April 25 2011 23:36 GMT
#1251
On April 26 2011 06:13 Freeheals wrote:
So hey guys! I'm new to this scene and I just ordered my first pair of decent headphones, the sennheiser hd448's (after much thought).
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I've been reading a lot about headphone amplifiers, and I'm not sure if i need one, so i decided to turn to my most trusted ally, teamliquid. My questions are, for the 448's running off of my (stock) computer or my ipod classic (6g), do I need an amplifier?
Secondly, will a cheap amp like the FiiO E5's do anything at all for my headset? Is it worth spending another $100 on a decent amp?

Thanks a lot and please feel free to PM me about anything.

EDIT: Do i need to burn these in or will they burn in naturally pretty well?


No you will not need an amp for the 448s

FiiO E5 will most likely not do much for your headset as they probably aren't geared to listening to music anyways
They do have a bass boost function which you might like

Honestly, there is no point in buying an amp unless your headphone needs it.
Your headset and the 448 will definitely not need any amp

Enjoy listening to the 448s
I considered buying them but chose the HA-RX900s
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Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 00:46:38
April 26 2011 00:40 GMT
#1252
So I'm considering getting the Beyer Dynamic DT 990's, 600 ohm. What would you guys recommend for an amp/dac?

Part of me badly wants to drop a ton of money on a good headphone amp and DAC so I get the most out of my headphones, such as the Schiit Valhalla with a Music Streamer II DAC.

Tell me what you guys think.

EDIT: The above is my "expensive" set of goods. If I decide I don't want to spend so much right now I'll likely go with the FiiO E7 + E9 combo or wait for the E15 that has been kinda informally announced on Head-Fi. Still with the DT 990s though.
VoodooTissue
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia15 Posts
April 26 2011 01:42 GMT
#1253
Perfect thread at the perfect time! I recently bought a set of Sennheiser HD 595's and I love them to death. What I was wondering is if they need anything to really get the best out of them - do they need an amp, do I need to get a soundcard - I'm kind of lost since I am really new to this whole deal. Please help?
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 03:20:59
April 26 2011 03:18 GMT
#1254
I have some Sennheiser 585's great mid ranges!

On April 26 2011 10:42 VoodooTissue wrote:
Perfect thread at the perfect time! I recently bought a set of Sennheiser HD 595's and I love them to death. What I was wondering is if they need anything to really get the best out of them - do they need an amp, do I need to get a soundcard - I'm kind of lost since I am really new to this whole deal. Please help?


Uh, I'm pretty sure they don't need an amp, you only need amps for seriously powerful (hi-hi-hi end) headphones. If you're using them with your computer, it should come with an audiocard that's more than good enough.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 26 2011 03:19 GMT
#1255
Others may have a different and maybe more experienced opinion than me, but I'm really not a fan of the "get the most out of X headphones" terminology. You can certainly get a cleaner, more accurate signal with a more expensive device feeding the headphones. Some more expensive devices will give you a worse output than something cheaper. You can also get something with additives, like bass boost, crossfeed, intentional harmonic distortion, etc. Whether or not that corresponds to getting more out of your system depends on what kind of sound you like and even partially on the kind of (volume) levels you listen at. Do you think the best equipment is what sounds the best or what imposes the least of its sound signature on the signal (what is the most transparent)?

If you're upgrading from most motherboard onboard audio / portable player solutions with most decent headphones, you should notice an improvement. This is particularly the case if the onboard audio won't go loud enough (like with Beyer DT990 600 ohms no doubt), has some bad impedance interactions with the load, is picking up noise from the rest of the computer system, etc. But in general you can do better for not that much more money (e.g. Asus Xonar DG). For their part, Sennheiser HD 595 is generally regarded as being okay on stock amplification, for what that's worth. It shouldn't be a tricky load for most cheap sources to drive.

Anyway, reviews are hard to trust because differences in higher-end equipment becomes vanishingly small, and the effect of expectation biases tend to dominate smaller differences. Very few people buying and then reviewing such things have the interest, equipment, and/or expertise to properly evaluate them--either through a few measurements or even some kind of controlled listening test. So it's hard to say.

Some readings if you're bored and have nothing better to do IMO:
http://seanolive.blogspot.com/2009/04/dishonesty-of-sighted-audio-product.html
http://www.matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm
Th0R
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada359 Posts
April 26 2011 04:50 GMT
#1256
Triton and SteelSeries is always my favourite. Triton's cheaper headphones are pretty crappy but their more expensive ones are just so amazing! the 720's are exceptionally good
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Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
April 26 2011 06:05 GMT
#1257
On April 26 2011 12:19 Myrmidon wrote:
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Others may have a different and maybe more experienced opinion than me, but I'm really not a fan of the "get the most out of X headphones" terminology. You can certainly get a cleaner, more accurate signal with a more expensive device feeding the headphones. Some more expensive devices will give you a worse output than something cheaper. You can also get something with additives, like bass boost, crossfeed, intentional harmonic distortion, etc. Whether or not that corresponds to getting more out of your system depends on what kind of sound you like and even partially on the kind of (volume) levels you listen at. Do you think the best equipment is what sounds the best or what imposes the least of its sound signature on the signal (what is the most transparent)?

If you're upgrading from most motherboard onboard audio / portable player solutions with most decent headphones, you should notice an improvement. This is particularly the case if the onboard audio won't go loud enough (like with Beyer DT990 600 ohms no doubt), has some bad impedance interactions with the load, is picking up noise from the rest of the computer system, etc. But in general you can do better for not that much more money (e.g. Asus Xonar DG). For their part, Sennheiser HD 595 is generally regarded as being okay on stock amplification, for what that's worth. It shouldn't be a tricky load for most cheap sources to drive.

Anyway, reviews are hard to trust because differences in higher-end equipment becomes vanishingly small, and the effect of expectation biases tend to dominate smaller differences. Very few people buying and then reviewing such things have the interest, equipment, and/or expertise to properly evaluate them--either through a few measurements or even some kind of controlled listening test. So it's hard to say.

Some readings if you're bored and have nothing better to do IMO:
http://seanolive.blogspot.com/2009/04/dishonesty-of-sighted-audio-product.html
http://www.matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm


That is actually a very reasonable outlook. I think my opinion has shifted a bit more towards the E7 + E9 (or E15 if it comes out in a reasonable amount of time) combo, just because it would be better for me to spend a 200-300 dollars now on that equipment, such that I can really appreciate the sound out of something potentially more expensive.

I will need to check if the E9 can actually reasonably power the DT 990's at 600 ohms though.
xavierofsparta
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
April 26 2011 06:08 GMT
#1258
beyerdynamic
dt 770 pro 80 ohm

great head phones

best i have e ever had
broken social scene is the best
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 26 2011 06:18 GMT
#1259
Fiio E9 claims 80 mW output into 600 ohms. My limited impression is that Fiio is legit, so I don't see any reason to disbelieve the figure. Nominal SPL of the DT990 is 96 dB / 1 mW input (which is usually measured at 1 kHz). Note that the DT 990 has a recessed midrange compared to the bass and treble, so you probably get more than 96 dB at a lower or higher frequency.

10log10(80) + 96 = 115 dB, which is plenty loud for a peak output and should be around live levels.

A lot of headphones run out of excursion by the time they reach about 115 dB, so even if the amp can do it, the headphones might not be able to do it. I'm not sure about the DT990. And that's well into hearing damage range anyway.

You could see if others with amps of similar outputs have issues with the 600 ohm Beyers. My guess is that they're well okay.
OnFire
Profile Joined July 2010
324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 21:37:19
April 26 2011 21:36 GMT
#1260
Hello good sirs.
My headphones recently broke, so now I'm looking to buy a new pair... can someone "experienced" recommend a good pair for 50 bucks or less?
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