On August 04 2012 21:18 Mosquitow wrote: Hi guys, I have never had any decent pair of headphones before and was wondering if you could help me. I'm looking for something within the 100-150€ price range. I'm mainly lsitening to jazz/folk/reggae/psych rock. Any suggestions?
VSonic GR07 MK2. Or the first version, which I'm sure you could get for a cheaper price.
On August 04 2012 21:18 Mosquitow wrote: Hi guys, I have never had any decent pair of headphones before and was wondering if you could help me. I'm looking for something within the 100-150€ price range. I'm mainly lsitening to jazz/folk/reggae/psych rock. Any suggestions?
Strongly considering upgrading my Sennheiser HD650 to HD800 (or maybe Audeze LCD2's).
A friend brought his HD800 over to my place for me to listen to with my own DAC and amp. Wow do they make a world of difference - which I guess you'd expect it, for 3-4x the price. I won't even bother trying to describe the sound with bullshit terms, plus I'm not qualified to do so - the HD800 just sounds even more awesome.
They make most of the low bitrate stuff sound like absolutely garbage, which is a downside I'm willing to accept. With them I've been able to do much (much) better with double blinds when comparing FLACs to 256-320kbps. They weren't kidding when they said those aren't forgiving. No bullshit, I love that.
-> My current stuff, because it looks pretty
(Also that's Jaedong's autograph above my Samsung monitor, one of my most prized possessions )
My sennheiser cx200 is showing massive damage despite the fact it still works. the plug is frayed, the the cord is not straight, plastic is cracked on left side, sennheiser stickers fallen off, see copper wire underneath. I'm pretty happy because I've used these for almost 4 years.
I am about to buy my new headphone and i want some recommendations please.
I have 160-180$ to spend. I want a closed-back headphone. My kind of music is mainly rock and techno and i saw the Audio-Techinica MH50 for 130$ on Amazon.
I´ll use it with my iPod touch and with my computer. Do i need an external amplifier for the iPod or computer?
With this budget i can get a better headphone or i should stay with the MH50?
On August 06 2012 00:36 YoungModerN wrote: Hello guys,
I am about to buy my new headphone and i want some recommendations please.
I have 160-180$ to spend. I want a closed-back headphone. My kind of music is mainly rock and techno and i saw the Audio-Techinica MH50 for 130$ on Amazon.
I´ll use it with my iPod touch and with my computer. Do i need an external amplifier for the iPod or computer?
With this budget i can get a better headphone or i should stay with the MH50?
Thank you!
You may want to consider Shure 840's for 130 on ebay here
These were the two headphones that i was torn between. The general consensus is, from what ive read, that the Shure 840's has higher quality highs and slightly better mids than the MH50's. However the MH50's have a higher quality bass, and some would argue they are more comfortable. I went with the Shure 840's because i listen to a wide variety of music, it all comes down to preference.
Hi guys. I was wondering if any1 here had experience changing out headphone speakers ? I tend to use 1 set of headphones for a long time, i replace jack ends and cables when i need to. I spend a large amount of my life wearing them, so when i find a pair that fit just nice, i like to use them until they are broken beyond my repairs. I was wondering if "upgrading" some older cans is as easy as putting some new speakers in them ? my usual source for techy little things like this (ebay) seems a bit lite on offerings. I hope maybe some1 knows of a website or just some solid advice on what types of speakers/drivers to use ?
On August 06 2012 05:15 YoungModerN wrote: Well, thanks for the tips. I think i´ll have to choose one of them.
And the amplifier? Will i need one?
"Need" is almost always too strong a word to use, but even if you rephrase it as "is it very important" then...
With the iPod, no. With the computer, probably not.
On August 08 2012 03:08 NeverStar wrote: Hi guys. I was wondering if any1 here had experience changing out headphone speakers ? I tend to use 1 set of headphones for a long time, i replace jack ends and cables when i need to. I spend a large amount of my life wearing them, so when i find a pair that fit just nice, i like to use them until they are broken beyond my repairs. I was wondering if "upgrading" some older cans is as easy as putting some new speakers in them ? my usual source for techy little things like this (ebay) seems a bit lite on offerings. I hope maybe some1 knows of a website or just some solid advice on what types of speakers/drivers to use ?
glgl
I think some companies may sell replacement drivers for some of the more common, studio-oriented headphones. Otherwise, check eBay again or ask people that are more likely to know, like at diyaudio or something like that.
As for upgrading, keep in mind that headphone design (in terms of sound quality) is about the transducers as well as the earcup enclosure, materials used, and so on; even the headband has a small role as well. Unless you know what you're doing with regards to acoustics and headphone design, a transplant may not particularly work well.
On August 05 2012 06:35 Djzapz wrote: Strongly considering upgrading my Sennheiser HD650 to HD800 (or maybe Audeze LCD2's).
A friend brought his HD800 over to my place for me to listen to with my own DAC and amp. Wow do they make a world of difference - which I guess you'd expect it, for 3-4x the price. I won't even bother trying to describe the sound with bullshit terms, plus I'm not qualified to do so - the HD800 just sounds even more awesome.
They make most of the low bitrate stuff sound like absolutely garbage, which is a downside I'm willing to accept. With them I've been able to do much (much) better with double blinds when comparing FLACs to 256-320kbps. They weren't kidding when they said those aren't forgiving. No bullshit, I love that.
(Also that's Jaedong's autograph above my Samsung monitor, one of my most prized possessions )
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How much of a difference would you say the HD800s make in the double blinds test? In percentages right/wrong? I guess the overall sound improves too much to say anything about the "audio quality difference). And do you have a common source from where the formats (converted with LAME etc)?
Im only asking because Im starting to rebuild my library from scratch and i havent decided if im gonna get it in FLAC, 320 or v0 (~245). It would be a bitch to rebuilding my entire library yet another again in four or so years, just because I've skimped on the format. Now I dont have the phones to discern it, but im looking to get something in the pricerange of the HD800s (or build my own) some time in the future. (When i finish my studies and get a better job, whenever that is). Then again you can fit over three times as much music on your HD with v0.
Nice autograph btw
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On another note I just came home with a pair of Focal Spirit One's. + Show Spoiler +
I needed a new pair of phones because i recently bought some cd-turntables and I didnt like my Grado SR60i's for that task. The cord was too thick, double cord, and not enclosed so I ended up buying these. They seem overall very good. Their bass is excellent for their price i think (why i bought them). Mid, highs and overall clarity is also quite good. I have tiny ears so these barely fit me, but I dont think I would recommend them to someone with big ears whos looking to use them for an extended period. I've been using them for around an hour now an its already feeling a bit stuffy. The short (>1m) replaceable cord will make them excellent DJ phones. Cant wait to get to it.
On August 05 2012 06:35 Djzapz wrote: Strongly considering upgrading my Sennheiser HD650 to HD800 (or maybe Audeze LCD2's).
A friend brought his HD800 over to my place for me to listen to with my own DAC and amp. Wow do they make a world of difference - which I guess you'd expect it, for 3-4x the price. I won't even bother trying to describe the sound with bullshit terms, plus I'm not qualified to do so - the HD800 just sounds even more awesome.
They make most of the low bitrate stuff sound like absolutely garbage, which is a downside I'm willing to accept. With them I've been able to do much (much) better with double blinds when comparing FLACs to 256-320kbps. They weren't kidding when they said those aren't forgiving. No bullshit, I love that.
(Also that's Jaedong's autograph above my Samsung monitor, one of my most prized possessions )
¨
How much of a difference would you say the HD800s make in the double blinds test? In percentages right/wrong? I guess the overall sound improves too much to say anything about the "audio quality difference). And do you have a common source from where the formats (converted with LAME etc)?
Im only asking because Im starting to rebuild my library from scratch and i havent decided if im gonna get it in FLAC, 320 or v0 (~245). It would be a bitch to rebuilding my entire library yet another again in four or so years, just because I've skimped on the format. Now I dont have the phones to discern it, but im looking to get something in the pricerange of the HD800s (or build my own) some time in the future. (When i finish my studies and get a better job, whenever that is). Then again you can fit over three times as much music on your HD with v0.
Nice autograph btw
Well before I start I want to say that even though I have a pretty good set of gear going on, I have trouble calling myself an audiophile because I'm not really analytic or whatever. I just like good sound and I did double blind tests essentially just for fun. My ears are not trained - I'm as amateur-ish as can be.
To do my double blinds, I take FLAC files and I used "Audiochecker" to see if they're healthy, and then I use LAME in Audacity to convert them to mp3 in various bitrates. I use foobar2000 with ABX comparator to perform the double blind test itself. I also try to pick fairly "active" parts of the songs I'm trying out, so my success rates could be lower if I didn't do that. So keep all that in mind! My sample size is about 10-15 tries per song (and sometimes more when I was doing well ;P).
With my HD650, I'd say I had a 60%-ish overall success rate in double blinds with various music from FLAC to 256/320kbps. It was higher with electronic music and well recorded metal music (around 70-75%), and basically 50% (so chance) with classical, pop and some random stuff I happen to have.
With the HD800, I got 75%-ish overall success rate with everything, and up to 90% on some songs (ex: Deadmau5 - Brazil). Same as before, I perceive the difference more easily with electro and metal. The difference is mostly recognizable when there's a lot of stuff going on. Even with the HD800's, there are some songs which are presumably recorded professionally, but I really couldn't hear the difference, even from 192kbps to FLAC (ex: Coldplay - Yellow).
Hey guys, so I recently downloaded the actual drivers for my Corsair Vengeance 1500 from the website, so I think I'm finally gonna be getting the full performance I was hoping for from this thing. So now I have access to the equalizer etc... but I don't really know what to do exactly. What I really like is that powerful bass, so that songs like this:
Sound very powerful and great. Could someone tell me how to set it so that when the drums kick in, it has some extra power? Or even if that's possible?
If there's a bass boost thing you can use that and mess with the frequency cutoff, otherwise you the 3 sliders on the left are the lows so you can increase those and maybe lower the stuff on the right and see what you like.
Can anyone explain to me the difference between my current ATH-A700s (closed back) and the ATH MH50? I'm definitely sticking with Audiotechnica ever since I got my A700s, but I live in the boonies so I have to order them without testing. If anyone has tried both, what's the difference?
On August 05 2012 06:35 Djzapz wrote: Strongly considering upgrading my Sennheiser HD650 to HD800 (or maybe Audeze LCD2's).
A friend brought his HD800 over to my place for me to listen to with my own DAC and amp. Wow do they make a world of difference - which I guess you'd expect it, for 3-4x the price. I won't even bother trying to describe the sound with bullshit terms, plus I'm not qualified to do so - the HD800 just sounds even more awesome.
They make most of the low bitrate stuff sound like absolutely garbage, which is a downside I'm willing to accept. With them I've been able to do much (much) better with double blinds when comparing FLACs to 256-320kbps. They weren't kidding when they said those aren't forgiving. No bullshit, I love that.
(Also that's Jaedong's autograph above my Samsung monitor, one of my most prized possessions )
¨
How much of a difference would you say the HD800s make in the double blinds test? In percentages right/wrong? I guess the overall sound improves too much to say anything about the "audio quality difference). And do you have a common source from where the formats (converted with LAME etc)?
Im only asking because Im starting to rebuild my library from scratch and i havent decided if im gonna get it in FLAC, 320 or v0 (~245). It would be a bitch to rebuilding my entire library yet another again in four or so years, just because I've skimped on the format. Now I dont have the phones to discern it, but im looking to get something in the pricerange of the HD800s (or build my own) some time in the future. (When i finish my studies and get a better job, whenever that is). Then again you can fit over three times as much music on your HD with v0.
Nice autograph btw
Well before I start I want to say that even though I have a pretty good set of gear going on, I have trouble calling myself an audiophile because I'm not really analytic or whatever. I just like good sound and I did double blind tests essentially just for fun. My ears are not trained - I'm as amateur-ish as can be.
To do my double blinds, I take FLAC files and I used "Audiochecker" to see if they're healthy, and then I use LAME in Audacity to convert them to mp3 in various bitrates. I use foobar2000 with ABX comparator to perform the double blind test itself. I also try to pick fairly "active" parts of the songs I'm trying out, so my success rates could be lower if I didn't do that. So keep all that in mind! My sample size is about 10-15 tries per song (and sometimes more when I was doing well ;P).
With my HD650, I'd say I had a 60%-ish overall success rate in double blinds with various music from FLAC to 256/320kbps. It was higher with electronic music and well recorded metal music (around 70-75%), and basically 50% (so chance) with classical, pop and some random stuff I happen to have.
With the HD800, I got 75%-ish overall success rate with everything, and up to 90% on some songs (ex: Deadmau5 - Brazil). Same as before, I perceive the difference more easily with electro and metal. The difference is mostly recognizable when there's a lot of stuff going on. Even with the HD800's, there are some songs which are presumably recorded professionally, but I really couldn't hear the difference, even from 192kbps to FLAC (ex: Coldplay - Yellow).
Hmmm. That seem like a legit way to check it.. It definitely gave me something to think about, even though getting the cash for such a set up is a long ways away. Anyway, thanks for your response!
On August 05 2012 06:35 Djzapz wrote: Strongly considering upgrading my Sennheiser HD650 to HD800 (or maybe Audeze LCD2's).
A friend brought his HD800 over to my place for me to listen to with my own DAC and amp. Wow do they make a world of difference - which I guess you'd expect it, for 3-4x the price. I won't even bother trying to describe the sound with bullshit terms, plus I'm not qualified to do so - the HD800 just sounds even more awesome.
They make most of the low bitrate stuff sound like absolutely garbage, which is a downside I'm willing to accept. With them I've been able to do much (much) better with double blinds when comparing FLACs to 256-320kbps. They weren't kidding when they said those aren't forgiving. No bullshit, I love that.
(Also that's Jaedong's autograph above my Samsung monitor, one of my most prized possessions )
¨
How much of a difference would you say the HD800s make in the double blinds test? In percentages right/wrong? I guess the overall sound improves too much to say anything about the "audio quality difference). And do you have a common source from where the formats (converted with LAME etc)?
Im only asking because Im starting to rebuild my library from scratch and i havent decided if im gonna get it in FLAC, 320 or v0 (~245). It would be a bitch to rebuilding my entire library yet another again in four or so years, just because I've skimped on the format. Now I dont have the phones to discern it, but im looking to get something in the pricerange of the HD800s (or build my own) some time in the future. (When i finish my studies and get a better job, whenever that is). Then again you can fit over three times as much music on your HD with v0.
Nice autograph btw
Well before I start I want to say that even though I have a pretty good set of gear going on, I have trouble calling myself an audiophile because I'm not really analytic or whatever. I just like good sound and I did double blind tests essentially just for fun. My ears are not trained - I'm as amateur-ish as can be.
To do my double blinds, I take FLAC files and I used "Audiochecker" to see if they're healthy, and then I use LAME in Audacity to convert them to mp3 in various bitrates. I use foobar2000 with ABX comparator to perform the double blind test itself. I also try to pick fairly "active" parts of the songs I'm trying out, so my success rates could be lower if I didn't do that. So keep all that in mind! My sample size is about 10-15 tries per song (and sometimes more when I was doing well ;P).
With my HD650, I'd say I had a 60%-ish overall success rate in double blinds with various music from FLAC to 256/320kbps. It was higher with electronic music and well recorded metal music (around 70-75%), and basically 50% (so chance) with classical, pop and some random stuff I happen to have.
With the HD800, I got 75%-ish overall success rate with everything, and up to 90% on some songs (ex: Deadmau5 - Brazil). Same as before, I perceive the difference more easily with electro and metal. The difference is mostly recognizable when there's a lot of stuff going on. Even with the HD800's, there are some songs which are presumably recorded professionally, but I really couldn't hear the difference, even from 192kbps to FLAC (ex: Coldplay - Yellow).
Hmmm. That seem like a legit way to check it.. It definitely gave me something to think about, even though getting the cash for such a set up is a long ways away. Anyway, thanks for your response!
You're welcome! I suggest that you read professional reviews from people who know more about this than I do, of course. And if you can find a way to try the headphones, that's also good.
As you know it's not a small purchase, and I don't know how to say this but essentially my mother would probably prefer Beats headphones over the Sennheiser HD800. The HD800 is objectively more accurate but listening is all subjective of course, and the enjoyment you get out of $1600 headphones may not be worth $1600 to you.
Edit: But then again I don't know you so perhaps you already know what you're about. ^^
On August 05 2012 06:35 Djzapz wrote: Strongly considering upgrading my Sennheiser HD650 to HD800 (or maybe Audeze LCD2's).
A friend brought his HD800 over to my place for me to listen to with my own DAC and amp. Wow do they make a world of difference - which I guess you'd expect it, for 3-4x the price. I won't even bother trying to describe the sound with bullshit terms, plus I'm not qualified to do so - the HD800 just sounds even more awesome.
They make most of the low bitrate stuff sound like absolutely garbage, which is a downside I'm willing to accept. With them I've been able to do much (much) better with double blinds when comparing FLACs to 256-320kbps. They weren't kidding when they said those aren't forgiving. No bullshit, I love that.
(Also that's Jaedong's autograph above my Samsung monitor, one of my most prized possessions )
¨
How much of a difference would you say the HD800s make in the double blinds test? In percentages right/wrong? I guess the overall sound improves too much to say anything about the "audio quality difference). And do you have a common source from where the formats (converted with LAME etc)?
Im only asking because Im starting to rebuild my library from scratch and i havent decided if im gonna get it in FLAC, 320 or v0 (~245). It would be a bitch to rebuilding my entire library yet another again in four or so years, just because I've skimped on the format. Now I dont have the phones to discern it, but im looking to get something in the pricerange of the HD800s (or build my own) some time in the future. (When i finish my studies and get a better job, whenever that is). Then again you can fit over three times as much music on your HD with v0.
Nice autograph btw
Well before I start I want to say that even though I have a pretty good set of gear going on, I have trouble calling myself an audiophile because I'm not really analytic or whatever. I just like good sound and I did double blind tests essentially just for fun. My ears are not trained - I'm as amateur-ish as can be.
To do my double blinds, I take FLAC files and I used "Audiochecker" to see if they're healthy, and then I use LAME in Audacity to convert them to mp3 in various bitrates. I use foobar2000 with ABX comparator to perform the double blind test itself. I also try to pick fairly "active" parts of the songs I'm trying out, so my success rates could be lower if I didn't do that. So keep all that in mind! My sample size is about 10-15 tries per song (and sometimes more when I was doing well ;P).
With my HD650, I'd say I had a 60%-ish overall success rate in double blinds with various music from FLAC to 256/320kbps. It was higher with electronic music and well recorded metal music (around 70-75%), and basically 50% (so chance) with classical, pop and some random stuff I happen to have.
With the HD800, I got 75%-ish overall success rate with everything, and up to 90% on some songs (ex: Deadmau5 - Brazil). Same as before, I perceive the difference more easily with electro and metal. The difference is mostly recognizable when there's a lot of stuff going on. Even with the HD800's, there are some songs which are presumably recorded professionally, but I really couldn't hear the difference, even from 192kbps to FLAC (ex: Coldplay - Yellow).
Hmmm. That seem like a legit way to check it.. It definitely gave me something to think about, even though getting the cash for such a set up is a long ways away. Anyway, thanks for your response!
You're welcome! I suggest that you read professional reviews from people who know more about this than I do, of course. And if you can find a way to try the headphones, that's also good.
As you know it's not a small purchase, and I don't know how to say this but essentially my mother would probably prefer Beats headphones over the Sennheiser HD800. The HD800 is objectively more accurate but listening is all subjective of course, and the enjoyment you get out of $1600 headphones may not be worth $1600 to you.
Edit: But then again I don't know you so perhaps you already know what you're about. ^^
Yeah I know. It's a hard process, but Im postponing it to the future. My "audio fidelity level" is now on phones between $200-300. I dont dare to listen to cans that are way better, because that would lead me to wanting them and put me down a hefty sum which I cant really afford.
I doubt I would like Beats or anything of the sort. Clarity/resolution is most important to me, not "fullness"
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