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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 09 2012 19:00 GMT
#3121
So my headset is pretty much dead and I'm looking to buy a new one(actually putting some money in this time) and I've been wondering if someone could tell me the differences between Sennheiser PC-350 and 360. My price range is pretty much top what those things costs and I need a mic. If there's other ones to take in consideration please do tell.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 09 2012 22:17 GMT
#3122
The important distinction is that the PC-360 is open (non-isolating, lets sounds both in and out, may have better spatial imaging as a result and doesn't get as sweaty to some), and the PC-350 is closed (isolates sounds from coming in and out to some extent). There are other differences too, probably, like the PC-350 can fold up somewhat.

If you need something with a microphone, I don't think there's much else to consider at that price. They're relatively expensive, but they're not high-end studio / broadcasting / aviation gear like some of what Sennheiser sells. Don't be expecting tank durability, and you should be good to go.
MrMcIntosh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia91 Posts
April 09 2012 22:24 GMT
#3123
Does anyone know if its worth spending the money for steelseries gear etc? I was looking at the 7H Fnatic Edition - is it worth the 120 euros or are there better options out there?
If only Windows came with StarCraft 2 already installed...If only
NeXiLe
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada262 Posts
April 09 2012 22:41 GMT
#3124
On April 10 2012 07:24 MrMcIntosh wrote:
Does anyone know if its worth spending the money for steelseries gear etc? I was looking at the 7H Fnatic Edition - is it worth the 120 euros or are there better options out there?


I really like my 7H's. Although they're probably the most expensive headphones I've purchased yet, they're definitely my favorite. The big downside with them though is that pretty much everyone eventually encounters a problem with one of the sides (generally the right side) cutting out whether it be from the cable (which steelseries was awesome about replacing for me, even sending me a spare) or the connections where the headphones can be pulled apart. I'm about to send mine in for the second time.

I wish they'd partially remake these headphones and fixed this problem as they'd definitely continue being my favorite headset but once this happens a third time, I'll be trying out a sennheiser headset since my warranty is now over.
Also, I haven't looked much at the fnatic edition but what I did see was all the pictures of it were with the orange cloth, not the (p)leather ear cushions. My 7H's came with both the leather and fabric ear cushions and I MUCH prefer the leather so I'd look into if it comes with replacement leather ones before you buy ^^
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 09 2012 22:51 GMT
#3125
On April 10 2012 07:17 Myrmidon wrote:
The important distinction is that the PC-360 is open (non-isolating, lets sounds both in and out, may have better spatial imaging as a result and doesn't get as sweaty to some), and the PC-350 is closed (isolates sounds from coming in and out to some extent). There are other differences too, probably, like the PC-350 can fold up somewhat.

If you need something with a microphone, I don't think there's much else to consider at that price. They're relatively expensive, but they're not high-end studio / broadcasting / aviation gear like some of what Sennheiser sells. Don't be expecting tank durability, and you should be good to go.


Thanks, I think I'll settle for the 350 then since they are closed. And I don't expect any todays technology to be even close to my Nokia 3310 so no problem there.
BlazingSonic
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany51 Posts
April 10 2012 01:20 GMT
#3126
hey, sorry if the following is completely stupid or has been asked before but i´ll just go ahead and try

I´ve been listening to a hell of a lot music (mainly rock, metal) in the past few years and am thinking about getting some good headphones to get a better listening experience. Now, I´ve read through some of the pages in this thread and most people say you need an amplifier to get most out of the sound. Well, as I´m pretty new to the whole audio equipment thing, I don´t really know what Amp and what headphone to buy. I got an USB audio interface (focusrite sapphire 6) for some home recordings i did and i wondered if i could use it as an "amp". Would this be enough to get good headphones going? Does it even make sense what I´m saying? xD
And which headphones would you recommend for a warm, powerful, but clear sound that fits rock/metal music? I would pay 70-300 $ but haven´t really decided yet. Sorry, if that´s not enough information I hope someone can help and guide me a bit in finding some

And i have a last question, Beats by Dr Dre suck, did I understand this right? xD
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 10 2012 01:59 GMT
#3127
Yeah, by and large the Beats lineup is overpriced for what is being offered, with some models being worse offenders than others.

Your audio interface includes a headphone amp with what looks to be decent specs at least among the little information given, but it's not particularly powerful. (To get something more powerful requires more effort, particularly for a USB bus-powered device.) It looks like it's limited to about 1V rms, with some lost across around 7 ohms output impedance.

In Germany usually the prices of Austro-German brands tend to be better than alternatives compared to in the rest of the world, so maybe you can just get one of those. At the upper end of the price range, maybe AKG K550 if you want something closed? Sennheiser HD 598 for open? Maybe somebody else has a better idea.
BlazingSonic
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany51 Posts
April 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#3128
ok thanks buddy for the reply

So, would you say the focusrite interface is enough as a start or would you recommend a real amp? Which one would you recommend alongside the sennheiser hd 598?

My brother also has sennheiser headphones (sennheiser hd 65, about 46 $ on Amazon). Do you think I would hear a big difference to the 598? Would it be worth it to buy them anyway?
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 23:06:52
April 12 2012 23:05 GMT
#3129
First off yes. Secondly, for rock, Grado's are untouched at the mid-tier audiophile level (although there are more expensive headphones that do dethrone them).

I would not recommend the HD598 for rock and metal although the HD598 are a deviation from the Sennheiser brand and house style in being more forward and "bright".

Grado SR325is used. Replace the headband with a leather one or buy a cheap 15 dollar Beyerdynamic button up headband for improved comfort.

All these headphones are fine unamped but do scale somewhat when paired with a decent amplifier. If you ever get an amplifier, this is the process. Find a decent DAC first, then amplifier. Garbage in -> Garbage out.

And that's game.
BlazingSonic
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany51 Posts
April 13 2012 11:21 GMT
#3130
Ok, then I´ll check for good headphones first and get some nice amp/dac later when the time is right.

I´m not really decided yet on which headphones to get. I´m not fully convinced about the Grado ones yet, as they are a bit too expensive and they don´t seem to fully surround your ear (is that right?). As for the sennheiser HD598 I´m not sure either. Can anyone else confirm that they aren´t suited or not great for Rock/Metal music?

It would be nice to hear some other recommendations that fit my taste What about the Denon AH D 2000? Can someone tell me what style/ sound the are suited for, are they worth the money?

Sorry guys, I´m really confused right now, so many different headphones, and I struggle to differ between the different characteristics
KayoDot
Profile Joined October 2011
33 Posts
April 13 2012 11:58 GMT
#3131
Yeah, the Grados don't surround your ears, they sit right on top of them. In my personal experience, the comfort of Grados depends on the type of pads you use with them. If you use the "comfies" that come with the sr60, sr80, and sr125, then I find Grados to be fairly comfortable (provided you bend the headband to fit your head). On the other hand, I can't really stand the bowl pads that come with the 225 and 325 for more than an hour at a time, although I do think they enhance the sound quality.

Also, I own the HD 598, and it's true that they're not too great with metal - they don't have the same impact that Grados have, and have a smoother and relatively softer sound overall (I think my $100 MS1 is better for metal than hd598). Still, the HD 598 is my favorite headphone that I own and easily outclasses my MS1 in all other genres.
An airplane, a puppet, an orange, a spoon, a window, and outside Stars and the moon.
yousaba
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden55 Posts
April 13 2012 12:40 GMT
#3132
im using Sennheiser HD598 on my gamingrig, together with an Asus XONAR Essence STX soundcard.

great sound. the soundcard really really improves the quality of sound, by far the best headphone soundcard ive used
Skroach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States85 Posts
April 13 2012 15:47 GMT
#3133
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Anybody care to recommend good portable headphones for me? My tiny sennheiser px-somethings broke twice now so I'm ready for something new.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 13 2012 16:16 GMT
#3134
vmoda m80 or sennheiser hd-25/Amperior
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essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
April 13 2012 16:20 GMT
#3135
I'd recommend against tma aiaiai, they are horrible unless you like pure bloated bass dr dre style.
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
BlazingSonic
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany51 Posts
April 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#3136
thanks for the tips. I´m not sure about the grado´s because of the reasons I posted earlier.

Anyone got some other ideas? Or a comment on the denon hd 2000? Some more help would be appreciated
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#3137
d2000 is one of the most highly recommended closed headphones. Also look at AKG k550
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KayoDot
Profile Joined October 2011
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 17:35:29
April 13 2012 17:32 GMT
#3138
d2000 and Beyerdynamic DT 770 are good closed options, if you want an open headphone maybe look into Beyerdynamic DT 880 (semi open) or 990.
An airplane, a puppet, an orange, a spoon, a window, and outside Stars and the moon.
Mrbustanut
Profile Joined May 2010
121 Posts
April 13 2012 17:39 GMT
#3139
For a good entry level headphone amp I would look at some of the ibasso products. That is what I use.

the D-zero would be a good starting model.

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73
BlazingSonic
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany51 Posts
April 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#3140
ok, so far the denon seem the most reasonable for me. The price is ok and the quality seems to be great. So, are they suited for rock music? What are the characteristics of them? I´ll also look at the beyerdynamic ones, thanls for that.

There is another thing I´m wondering right now. Can you actually make a difference between closed and open headphones? Is one kind better than the other in the same price range? Or is it just taste?

About the AKG k550. The reviews on amazon.de don´t tend to be too positive. Some are saying the aren´t really comfortable and the bass is lacking. Can anyone confirm this? I´m not really sure if I should trust some of them as I already got two recommendations for them here.
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