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On February 27 2012 09:17 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:25 Blisse wrote:On February 27 2012 06:30 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 05:41 Risen wrote:On February 27 2012 03:37 tuho12345 wrote:On February 26 2012 17:22 Risen wrote:On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:On February 26 2012 11:42 Toads wrote:
I've just bought Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for my school and this headphone is just toooooooo nice. The sound is amazing and for a professional headphone. the price is not that bad. only 220$ $220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States... That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced... Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though... M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o I'm going to guess you've never owned a pair. I can't think of headphones at that pricepoint that give better value for what I listen to. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords= m50s&x=0&y=0Most of them are 150-160, I know somebody can get it around 120 or so. So yeah, 220 was a massive rip-off if you ask me. Got mine for 120 during a sale on amazon that happens fairly frequently. He had said they were overpriced at 100, which is false. M50s are probably one of the most recommended headphones around that price. Agreed. Anything up to $200, I'd recommend the M50, then the Denon D2000 from > 200 The only alternative Blisse suggests is the Ultrasone 580... Mike from Headfonia has this to say about about the M50: "I didn’t really expect that the Audio Technica M-50 will come out being such a stellar performer, because I’ve heard it for a while at a meet, and my impression wasn’t too positive then. Turns out that on a proper review setting, the M-50 is exceptional. It is definitely the best all rounder in this shootout, with the excellent technicalities and musicality for just about everything. What I do feel as missing from the M-50 is it hasn’t really got enough agressiveness for Rock, and that’s my only complaint for this otherwise great headphone." http://www.headfonia.com/closed-cans-shootout-m-50-esw-9-t50p-hd25-1-beats-studio-srh-840-srh-750dj-k181dj-and-dj1pro/10/ I consider them overpriced for me at $100-120. The differences between headphones at that price range and past the $200 range is too much for me to consider anything at that price. That doesn't mean I won't recommend them or that they're crap. They're just overpriced for headphones at that pricing. Also, that review was a long time ago. Headphone pricing has changed very much even over the last 6 months with a lot of new contenders. M50s a year ago were at the $80-100 mark, and very good budget cans considering there were essentially no other known options available at that point in time. And also [i think] the M50s have gone under a (bass heavier?) revision recently I believe as the demand for them went up, which is bound to mess with Mike's opinion of them now. And finally, the only notable headphones in that shootout were those that were available at the time: Shures, and HD 25 are the only actual competition, and they're not that great for all arounders. <3 HD 25s for rock btw. If you're looking strictly at amazon prices. Then the shure 840's costs the same as the M50. Most reviewers seem to choose the M50 over the 840. The HD 25's are closed headphones but they're also on ear which is more likely to be uncomfortable but more portable. They also cost $200, which is double what you consider the M50 to be "worth it"
I did not suggest either headphones were better than the M50s...? Well probably the HD 25s. I actually said that those two headphones were the only notable headphones in that review available at the time, and also said that the M50s were worth it, 2 years ago at $80-100, when that article was written. I said nowadays, it's overpriced while it's hovering at $140-160, and slightly overpriced at $100-120.
On February 27 2012 08:35 pampelmus wrote:
Thinking of buying Aiaiai TMA-1. Anyone tested it/has one already?
Want to use it as my portable headphones... everywhere: travelling, train, bus, at the lake in summer, etc...
I wouldn't recommend the TMA-1's. There are better options depending on what your budget is. However, they are quite portable if that's your main use, though some say that are uncomfortable. Also, they don't "stand out" like many headphones do, so you don't look ridiculous wearing them, which is a plus in public.
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On February 27 2012 09:49 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 09:17 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 08:25 Blisse wrote:On February 27 2012 06:30 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 05:41 Risen wrote:On February 27 2012 03:37 tuho12345 wrote:On February 26 2012 17:22 Risen wrote:On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:On February 26 2012 11:42 Toads wrote:
I've just bought Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for my school and this headphone is just toooooooo nice. The sound is amazing and for a professional headphone. the price is not that bad. only 220$ $220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States... That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced... Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though... M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o I'm going to guess you've never owned a pair. I can't think of headphones at that pricepoint that give better value for what I listen to. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords= m50s&x=0&y=0Most of them are 150-160, I know somebody can get it around 120 or so. So yeah, 220 was a massive rip-off if you ask me. Got mine for 120 during a sale on amazon that happens fairly frequently. He had said they were overpriced at 100, which is false. M50s are probably one of the most recommended headphones around that price. Agreed. Anything up to $200, I'd recommend the M50, then the Denon D2000 from > 200 The only alternative Blisse suggests is the Ultrasone 580... Mike from Headfonia has this to say about about the M50: "I didn’t really expect that the Audio Technica M-50 will come out being such a stellar performer, because I’ve heard it for a while at a meet, and my impression wasn’t too positive then. Turns out that on a proper review setting, the M-50 is exceptional. It is definitely the best all rounder in this shootout, with the excellent technicalities and musicality for just about everything. What I do feel as missing from the M-50 is it hasn’t really got enough agressiveness for Rock, and that’s my only complaint for this otherwise great headphone." http://www.headfonia.com/closed-cans-shootout-m-50-esw-9-t50p-hd25-1-beats-studio-srh-840-srh-750dj-k181dj-and-dj1pro/10/ I consider them overpriced for me at $100-120. The differences between headphones at that price range and past the $200 range is too much for me to consider anything at that price. That doesn't mean I won't recommend them or that they're crap. They're just overpriced for headphones at that pricing. Also, that review was a long time ago. Headphone pricing has changed very much even over the last 6 months with a lot of new contenders. M50s a year ago were at the $80-100 mark, and very good budget cans considering there were essentially no other known options available at that point in time. And also [i think] the M50s have gone under a (bass heavier?) revision recently I believe as the demand for them went up, which is bound to mess with Mike's opinion of them now. And finally, the only notable headphones in that shootout were those that were available at the time: Shures, and HD 25 are the only actual competition, and they're not that great for all arounders. <3 HD 25s for rock btw. If you're looking strictly at amazon prices. Then the shure 840's costs the same as the M50. Most reviewers seem to choose the M50 over the 840. The HD 25's are closed headphones but they're also on ear which is more likely to be uncomfortable but more portable. They also cost $200, which is double what you consider the M50 to be "worth it" I did not suggest either headphones were better than the M50s...? Well probably the HD 25s. I actually said that those two headphones were the only notable headphones in that review available at the time, and also said that the M50s were worth it, 2 years ago at $80-100, when that article was written. I said nowadays, it's overpriced while it's hovering at $140-160, and slightly overpriced at $100-120.
All you talk about is pricing while only offering one alternative to it within that price range (the ultrasones). Feel free to offer alternatives within that class of cans.
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On February 27 2012 09:57 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 09:49 Blisse wrote:On February 27 2012 09:17 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 08:25 Blisse wrote:On February 27 2012 06:30 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 05:41 Risen wrote:On February 27 2012 03:37 tuho12345 wrote:On February 26 2012 17:22 Risen wrote:On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:On February 26 2012 11:42 Toads wrote:
I've just bought Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for my school and this headphone is just toooooooo nice. The sound is amazing and for a professional headphone. the price is not that bad. only 220$ $220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States... That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced... Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though... M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o I'm going to guess you've never owned a pair. I can't think of headphones at that pricepoint that give better value for what I listen to. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords= m50s&x=0&y=0Most of them are 150-160, I know somebody can get it around 120 or so. So yeah, 220 was a massive rip-off if you ask me. Got mine for 120 during a sale on amazon that happens fairly frequently. He had said they were overpriced at 100, which is false. M50s are probably one of the most recommended headphones around that price. Agreed. Anything up to $200, I'd recommend the M50, then the Denon D2000 from > 200 The only alternative Blisse suggests is the Ultrasone 580... Mike from Headfonia has this to say about about the M50: "I didn’t really expect that the Audio Technica M-50 will come out being such a stellar performer, because I’ve heard it for a while at a meet, and my impression wasn’t too positive then. Turns out that on a proper review setting, the M-50 is exceptional. It is definitely the best all rounder in this shootout, with the excellent technicalities and musicality for just about everything. What I do feel as missing from the M-50 is it hasn’t really got enough agressiveness for Rock, and that’s my only complaint for this otherwise great headphone." http://www.headfonia.com/closed-cans-shootout-m-50-esw-9-t50p-hd25-1-beats-studio-srh-840-srh-750dj-k181dj-and-dj1pro/10/ I consider them overpriced for me at $100-120. The differences between headphones at that price range and past the $200 range is too much for me to consider anything at that price. That doesn't mean I won't recommend them or that they're crap. They're just overpriced for headphones at that pricing. Also, that review was a long time ago. Headphone pricing has changed very much even over the last 6 months with a lot of new contenders. M50s a year ago were at the $80-100 mark, and very good budget cans considering there were essentially no other known options available at that point in time. And also [i think] the M50s have gone under a (bass heavier?) revision recently I believe as the demand for them went up, which is bound to mess with Mike's opinion of them now. And finally, the only notable headphones in that shootout were those that were available at the time: Shures, and HD 25 are the only actual competition, and they're not that great for all arounders. <3 HD 25s for rock btw. If you're looking strictly at amazon prices. Then the shure 840's costs the same as the M50. Most reviewers seem to choose the M50 over the 840. The HD 25's are closed headphones but they're also on ear which is more likely to be uncomfortable but more portable. They also cost $200, which is double what you consider the M50 to be "worth it" I did not suggest either headphones were better than the M50s...? Well probably the HD 25s. I actually said that those two headphones were the only notable headphones in that review available at the time, and also said that the M50s were worth it, 2 years ago at $80-100, when that article was written. I said nowadays, it's overpriced while it's hovering at $140-160, and slightly overpriced at $100-120. All you talk about is pricing while only offering one alternative to it within that price range (the ultrasones). Feel free to offer alternatives within that class of cans.
No problem. Prices are estimates since not everywhere sells at the same price.
For reference, the
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 - $160
Brainwaz HM5 - $120
(is the same thing as)
Fischer Audio’s FA-003 - $150
Sony MDR-ZX700 - $120
KRK KNS 6400 - $80 oops wrong one
KRK KNS 8400 - $130
Ultrasone PRO 550 - $150
Ultrasone HFI 580 - $180 (o.o)
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro - $160
A year or two ago we had.
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 - $90
Shure SRH-840 - $150
Do you somewhat see where I'm coming from?
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On February 27 2012 10:18 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 09:57 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 09:49 Blisse wrote:On February 27 2012 09:17 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 08:25 Blisse wrote:On February 27 2012 06:30 CorsairHero wrote:On February 27 2012 05:41 Risen wrote:On February 27 2012 03:37 tuho12345 wrote:On February 26 2012 17:22 Risen wrote:On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:
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$220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x
You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States...
That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced...
Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though...
M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o I'm going to guess you've never owned a pair. I can't think of headphones at that pricepoint that give better value for what I listen to. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords= m50s&x=0&y=0Most of them are 150-160, I know somebody can get it around 120 or so. So yeah, 220 was a massive rip-off if you ask me. Got mine for 120 during a sale on amazon that happens fairly frequently. He had said they were overpriced at 100, which is false. M50s are probably one of the most recommended headphones around that price. Agreed. Anything up to $200, I'd recommend the M50, then the Denon D2000 from > 200 The only alternative Blisse suggests is the Ultrasone 580... Mike from Headfonia has this to say about about the M50: "I didn’t really expect that the Audio Technica M-50 will come out being such a stellar performer, because I’ve heard it for a while at a meet, and my impression wasn’t too positive then. Turns out that on a proper review setting, the M-50 is exceptional. It is definitely the best all rounder in this shootout, with the excellent technicalities and musicality for just about everything. What I do feel as missing from the M-50 is it hasn’t really got enough agressiveness for Rock, and that’s my only complaint for this otherwise great headphone." http://www.headfonia.com/closed-cans-shootout-m-50-esw-9-t50p-hd25-1-beats-studio-srh-840-srh-750dj-k181dj-and-dj1pro/10/ I consider them overpriced for me at $100-120. The differences between headphones at that price range and past the $200 range is too much for me to consider anything at that price. That doesn't mean I won't recommend them or that they're crap. They're just overpriced for headphones at that pricing. Also, that review was a long time ago. Headphone pricing has changed very much even over the last 6 months with a lot of new contenders. M50s a year ago were at the $80-100 mark, and very good budget cans considering there were essentially no other known options available at that point in time. And also [i think] the M50s have gone under a (bass heavier?) revision recently I believe as the demand for them went up, which is bound to mess with Mike's opinion of them now. And finally, the only notable headphones in that shootout were those that were available at the time: Shures, and HD 25 are the only actual competition, and they're not that great for all arounders. <3 HD 25s for rock btw. If you're looking strictly at amazon prices. Then the shure 840's costs the same as the M50. Most reviewers seem to choose the M50 over the 840. The HD 25's are closed headphones but they're also on ear which is more likely to be uncomfortable but more portable. They also cost $200, which is double what you consider the M50 to be "worth it" I did not suggest either headphones were better than the M50s...? Well probably the HD 25s. I actually said that those two headphones were the only notable headphones in that review available at the time, and also said that the M50s were worth it, 2 years ago at $80-100, when that article was written. I said nowadays, it's overpriced while it's hovering at $140-160, and slightly overpriced at $100-120. All you talk about is pricing while only offering one alternative to it within that price range (the ultrasones). Feel free to offer alternatives within that class of cans. No problem. Prices are estimates since not everywhere sells at the same price. For reference, the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 - $160 Brainwaz HM5 - $120 (is the same thing as) Fischer Audio’s FA-003 - $150 Sony MDR-ZX700 - $120 KRK KNS 6400 - $80 oops wrong one KRK KNS 8400 - $130 Ultrasone PRO 550 - $150 Ultrasone HFI 580 - $180 (o.o) Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro - $160 A year or two ago we had. Audio-Technica ATH-M50 - $90 Shure SRH-840 - $150 Do you somewhat see where I'm coming from?
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/ATH-M50s
use this as reference, makes the comparison more interesting. And how many of those are good all 'rounders? Only cans in that list I've had experience with are the KNS 8400 which lack bass compared to the M50 and the DT770 which need external amping to sound decent.
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On February 27 2012 03:37 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 17:22 Risen wrote:On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:On February 26 2012 11:42 Toads wrote:
I've just bought Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for my school and this headphone is just toooooooo nice. The sound is amazing and for a professional headphone. the price is not that bad. only 220$ $220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States... That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced... Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though... M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o I'm going to guess you've never owned a pair. I can't think of headphones at that pricepoint that give better value for what I listen to. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords= m50s&x=0&y=0Most of them are 150-160, I know somebody can get it around 120 or so. So yeah, 220 was a massive rip-off if you ask me.
It was 180$ + taxes
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On February 27 2012 06:54 DirtyCash wrote:Monday Im recovering those from the post office: ![[image loading]](http://i.imm.io/hp5O.jpeg) just the HPs, they will be paired with a Matrix MStage EXCITED
Nice! Then we're gonna have the same setup =)
From what i can hear, they are really picky when it comes to what kind of music you can play. The bass is not extended so they can come short in tracks where there's a lot of bass.
Songs that sound absolutely fantastic are:
Adele - Crazy for you (Live at Hotel Cafe)
Eric Clapton - Layla
Sting - It's Probably Me
There's a lot more but i dont have time to look over my music library =)
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On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 11:42 Toads wrote:
I've just bought Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for my school and this headphone is just toooooooo nice. The sound is amazing and for a professional headphone. the price is not that bad. only 220$ $220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States... That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced... Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though... M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o
Yes they are professional. And you can find at the audio-technica's website this is not overprice. Everyone use them in television (This is what i study for and why i bought them)
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/357f8bcb1651f248/index.html
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On February 27 2012 13:17 Toads wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 16:52 Blisse wrote:On February 26 2012 11:42 Toads wrote:
I've just bought Audio-Technica ATH-M50 for my school and this headphone is just toooooooo nice. The sound is amazing and for a professional headphone. the price is not that bad. only 220$ $220 for M50s in Canada? You're crazyyy x.x You shouldn't even be paying that much in total if you import them from the States... That's a massive ripoff, and I consider M50s at $100 slightly overpriced... Still, enjoy your headphones! Might be hard to now though... M50s aren't professional and the sound isn't thatt amazing, too. o_o Yes they are professional. And you can find at the audio-technica's website this is not overprice. Everyone use them in television (This is what i study for and why i bought them) http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/357f8bcb1651f248/index.html
![[image loading]](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljqhd38j7x1qb1ovyo1_500.jpg)
used by professionals :D
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ATH-M50 is nominally in the studio monitor lineup, but I don't think they'd be particularly considered as such. Certainly these days, they're quite popular on the consumer market, and they're not (as) much sold or apparently in the pro audio world. They're not as popular as the Beyerdynamic models, AKG K240 models of the past and maybe K701/K702, Sennheiser HD 6xx, Sony MDR-V6 on the lower-end, and so on.
The manufacturer website generally lists MSRP, but who cares about that when most headphones sell for well under that? Most people would say that most headphones aren't worth their MSRP.
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The Tesla DT 1350 is too expensive  . The HD-25 is more expensive here where I live (prices at the bottom).
I wouldn't recommend the TMA-1's. There are better options depending on what your budget is. However, they are quite portable if that's your main use, though some say that are uncomfortable. Also, they don't "stand out" like many headphones do, so you don't look ridiculous wearing them, which is a plus in public.
One of the reasons I thougt of going with the Aiaiai is indeed the design, a lot of headphones look ridiculous or designed for 16 year old kids. What would be better options for this budget?
The reviews on head-fi were very good, so I bought em. (I travel a lot and wanted a change from IEMs)
Absolutely hated the sound. Extremely dark, very receded highs/mids, poor separation . Bass was pretty good, tight and defined but I'm not really a basshead. I gave them 1 week of listening/burn-in and sent them back.
Still it seems I'm in the minority and most people who got them absolutely loved them (those who could compare prefered them to HD25s it seems). I should say I never owned closed HPs before and im used to modded HD595s / 701s / MS-1000s.
Also, almost everybody I read says those are very comfortable and the clamping force is just fine. As I said I'm used to notoriously uncomfortable HPs such as Grados and k701s and those were a nightmare on my ears. Strange.
The only good thing I can say about those is that they look fantastic. The all-black rubber and minimalist design looks even better IRL than in pictures ( I had the Fools Gold LE version with yellow cables, not bad either). Also no sound leakage even at high volumes, but I guess thats a given for this kind of cans.
Just my experience, I know theres nothing more subjective than audiophile tastes, try them yourselves.
I know. Thank you. I tested them for an hour or so and found them nice. I would not classify myself as "audiophile", but I like quality listening everywhere and am therefore looking for something portable. The HD25 is more expensive.
Prices in Switzerland:
Aiaiai TMA-1: 136 CHF (151 USD)
BeyerDynamic Tesla DT 1350: 255 CHF (USD 284)
HD-25: 195 CHF (USD 215)
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For those more knowledgeable about these things;
Im new to higher quality headphones. I've had a gaming headset or two and then I upgraded to a pair of shure phones about 6 months ago. One problem that follows me from headset to headset is that after wearing them for a few hours, my ears start to hurt horribly. They'll be tender for hours afterwards and I just can't bear to keep the headphones on. Is there any reason for this? How can it be prevented?
I'm looking to upgrade to a new pair of headphones because frankly I just never want to use mine because I don't want my ears to hurt if I keep them on for awhile. How can I be sure to get phones that won't do whatever the others have been doing if I can't try them on (for instance over the internet)?
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On February 28 2012 17:51 Arisen wrote:
For those more knowledgeable about these things;
Im new to higher quality headphones. I've had a gaming headset or two and then I upgraded to a pair of shure phones about 6 months ago. One problem that follows me from headset to headset is that after wearing them for a few hours, my ears start to hurt horribly. They'll be tender for hours afterwards and I just can't bear to keep the headphones on. Is there any reason for this? How can it be prevented?
I'm looking to upgrade to a new pair of headphones because frankly I just never want to use mine because I don't want my ears to hurt if I keep them on for awhile. How can I be sure to get phones that won't do whatever the others have been doing if I can't try them on (for instance over the internet)?
Your ears probably hurt due to supra-aural earcups.
Try looking into headphones with circumaural cups. They might be a btter fit for you.
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I am currently sitting with my K701's plugged into my computer via the Asus Xonar Essence STX soundcard.
Am I giving the headphones enough juice, or do I actually need / should get an amp for them to do them justice.
I have had them for a couple of years now, so they have alot of hours under the belt, but I just want to make sure I , as I said, do them justice, they deserve it!
Is there any amp you recommend for these?
Price isnt REALLY an issue as long as its justified (for example, noneed for 400+dollar amps).
Maybe like 250-300dollars max.
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On February 28 2012 18:43 Fukinkou wrote:
I am currently sitting with my K701's plugged into my computer via the Asus Xonar Essence STX soundcard.
Am I giving the headphones enough juice, or do I actually need / should get an amp for them to do them justice.
I have had them for a couple of years now, so they have alot of hours under the belt, but I just want to make sure I , as I said, do them justice, they deserve it!
Is there any amp you recommend for these?
Price isnt REALLY an issue as long as its justified (for example, noneed for 400+dollar amps).
Maybe like 250-300dollars max.
Something like the Matrix M-stage should have enough juice to drive them
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On February 28 2012 20:08 HuggyBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 18:43 Fukinkou wrote:
I am currently sitting with my K701's plugged into my computer via the Asus Xonar Essence STX soundcard.
Am I giving the headphones enough juice, or do I actually need / should get an amp for them to do them justice.
I have had them for a couple of years now, so they have alot of hours under the belt, but I just want to make sure I , as I said, do them justice, they deserve it!
Is there any amp you recommend for these?
Price isnt REALLY an issue as long as its justified (for example, noneed for 400+dollar amps).
Maybe like 250-300dollars max. Something like the Matrix M-stage should have enough juice to drive them
How does the Schiit Valhalla compare to the Matrix M-stage?
Is it worth the extra 100-dollar jump?
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On February 28 2012 18:43 Fukinkou wrote:
I am currently sitting with my K701's plugged into my computer via the Asus Xonar Essence STX soundcard.
Am I giving the headphones enough juice, or do I actually need / should get an amp for them to do them justice.
I have had them for a couple of years now, so they have alot of hours under the belt, but I just want to make sure I , as I said, do them justice, they deserve it!
Is there any amp you recommend for these?
Price isnt REALLY an issue as long as its justified (for example, noneed for 400+dollar amps).
Maybe like 250-300dollars max.
What do you even mean by "juice" anyway?
Essence STX has an internal headphone amp that's clearly capable of powering them to deafeningly loud volumes very cleanly, so what else do you want? The characteristics are somewhat similar to the FiiO E9. Both use the TI TPA6120 headphone amp chip on the output and put a 10 ohms resistor between it and the output, as nominally recommended in the datasheet (safety precautions mostly, to protect from stray capacitance causing oscillations, which can be really bad for headphones and maybe for the chip). The thus ~10 ohms output impedance is mostly the only thing that could be considered marginally objectionable from a technical standpoint, for driving K701. Overall for these headphones (not all headphones), it should already be considerably past the point of diminishing returns.
That's unless the STX is picking up weird noises or some EMI from the computer, and the performance is being somewhat compromised. Still, it should be still quite good.
Most Schiit products would probably be a step back if you want accuracy. M-Stage is most likely better, but both may be no better than the STX. If you don't want accuracy, it's hard to gauge what's better than another for you, so just buy something randomly, or keep looking.
You won't get dat audiophile street cred without dropping more money on something more expensive though.
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On February 28 2012 21:27 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 18:43 Fukinkou wrote:
I am currently sitting with my K701's plugged into my computer via the Asus Xonar Essence STX soundcard.
Am I giving the headphones enough juice, or do I actually need / should get an amp for them to do them justice.
I have had them for a couple of years now, so they have alot of hours under the belt, but I just want to make sure I , as I said, do them justice, they deserve it!
Is there any amp you recommend for these?
Price isnt REALLY an issue as long as its justified (for example, noneed for 400+dollar amps).
Maybe like 250-300dollars max. What do you even mean by "juice" anyway? Essence STX has an internal headphone amp that's clearly capable of powering them to deafeningly loud volumes very cleanly, so what else do you want? The characteristics are somewhat similar to the FiiO E9. Both use the TI TPA6120 headphone amp chip on the output and put a 10 ohms resistor between it and the output, as nominally recommended in the datasheet (safety precautions mostly, to protect from stray capacitance causing oscillations, which can be really bad for headphones and maybe for the chip). The thus ~10 ohms output impedance is mostly the only thing that could be considered marginally objectionable from a technical standpoint, for driving K701. Overall for these headphones (not all headphones), it should already be considerably past the point of diminishing returns. That's unless the STX is picking up weird noises or some EMI from the computer, and the performance is being somewhat compromised. Still, it should be still quite good. Most Schiit products would probably be a step back if you want accuracy. M-Stage is most likely better, but both may be no better than the STX. If you don't want accuracy, it's hard to gauge what's better than another for you, so just buy something randomly, or keep looking. You won't get dat audiophile street cred without dropping more money on something more expensive though.
Thanks for the input!
I am not looking for any "street cred", I just want to get the most out of my headphones.
The reason I was looking around / asking around was that lately, in a swedish tech-forum, people have brought up the debate arguing that the STX isnt actually a good amplifier. That is the reason I am asking around!
Also, the STX isn't picking up any noice (not that I can hear atleast) and I am in no way displeased at all, you could just say I was windowshopping I guess.
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