EPTPedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure - Page 8
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Champi
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:53 Krigwin wrote: You are seriously going down all the way to semantic excuses? That's low O.oIf you shout fire in a crowded theater you get charged with potentially causing harm, which is a different offense from saying something disagreeable. Looks like how to avoid getting charged for having child pornography, not how to avoid getting caught for actually having intercourse with a child. This seems like a very interesting book though, I wouldn't mind someone actually reading this and revealing the contents in its entirety. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:01 VIB wrote: You are seriously going down all the way to semantic excuses? That's low O.o You are saying the difference between child pornography and intercourse with a child is merely semantic? That's low O.o | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On November 11 2010 08:54 travis wrote: Why are things illegal in the first place? Why do laws even exist?Should it be illegal for[...] To stop people who cause harm to the society from repeating it. If I say something that causes serious harm to other people, isn't it reasonable to consider doing something to prevent me from doing that again? "Free speech is a right" But what about: "Your right ends when mine begins" Doesn't the pedophiles' rights to free speech ends when the children's right to not be abused begin? | ||
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RaFeStaR
United States161 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:00 pfods wrote: your argument is based entirely on emotion." oh no i have kids so i'm going to be UBER protective and authoritarian". why does your having children effect what is and is not allowed in society? how can you possibly say that without laughing? protip: my niece lives three houses down from a convicted pedophile. i'm not worried about her getting raped because of some book someone decided to publish. It isn't entirely emotion. I'm obviously not concerned with my child getting raped simply because this book was published. However, I do know that it is possible that a child could get raped and the man who does so could be let off or not even caught because of this book, which makes me fucking angry. You're a clueless little man who likes being the rebel. You're indirectly condoning this regardless of what you say. | ||
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allluckysevens7777
United States53 Posts
I guess one could also point out that any argument against this could be adapted to say that violent video games should be banned/restricted. I know where most/all of this forum, including me, stand on that issue. | ||
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:01 VIB wrote: You are seriously going down all the way to semantic excuses? That's low O.o Whoa, do you have any idea the difference in sentencing between the crime of having child pornography and the crime of actually having intercourse with a child, much less the difference in extent of harm inflicted on the actual child? This isn't like, some minor difference you can just gloss over, man. If someone comes out with a book telling all pedophiles to merely take pictures of children in the nude instead of actually molesting them, trust me, I would be all for this book. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:05 XeliN wrote: Don't play fool, he was trying to separate "avoid getting charged" from "avoid getting caught".You are saying the difference between child pornography and intercourse with a child is merely semantic? That's low O.o | ||
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pfods
United States895 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:07 VIB wrote: Doesn't the pedophiles' rights to free speech ends when the children's right to not be abused begin? indeed. but how does publishing/buying a book rape children? do you think someone who is completely free of the thought of abusing a child is going to buy this book on a whim and suddenly have an appetite for young boys that he can't sate? User was temp banned not for this post but the strnig above it. I just clicked the latest one to get to post history. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:09 pfods wrote: Do you think it's completely impossible that someone who have gave that idea a thought won't be encouraged by a book teaching him how to do it safely without being caught?indeed. but how does publishing/buying a book rape children? do you think someone who is completely free of the thought of abusing a child is going to buy this book on a whim and suddenly have an appetite for young boys that he can't sate? | ||
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lu_cid
United States428 Posts
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Qzy
Denmark1121 Posts
It's freedom of speech at its finest - Hate the person all you want, but it's his words, and he should be allowed to say them. Having said that, I want to cut off his balls - but isn't that what literature is meant to create for the reader? Emotions! There's worse books out there. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On November 11 2010 09:11 VIB wrote: Do you think it's completely impossible that someone who have gave that idea a thought won't be encouraged by a book teaching him how to do it safely without being caught? While that might seem likely, it's not good enough reason to censor this book, unless you can prove that the intent of the book itself is to incite pedophile behavior. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On November 11 2010 09:07 VIB wrote: Why are things illegal in the first place? Why do laws even exist? To stop people who cause harm to the society from repeating it. If I say something that causes serious harm to other people, isn't it reasonable to consider doing something to prevent me from doing that again? "Free speech is a right" But what about: "Your right ends when mine begins" Doesn't the pedophiles' rights to free speech ends when the children's right to not be abused begin? well, you didn't answer my question[s] but I will answer yours If I say something that causes serious harm to other people, isn't it reasonable to consider doing something to prevent me from doing that again? yes, if it is actually what you say that causes serious harm to people, then that is reasonable. for example, if the words in the book somehow made people commit acts of pedophilia, then I would be all for it's banning. | ||
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KaasZerg
Netherlands927 Posts
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Babaganoush
United States626 Posts
I wish it was instead a honeytrap for the FBI to find who purchases this book and search if they have any illegal material in their possession... that would bring up the controversy of the Big Brother thing though. Regardless, this book is pretty much teaching (from what I see in the excerpt) of how to rape little children. There was a controversy on Amazon where Japanese games simulating rape were removed. Why not this? | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
Also, Manifesto's idea should work wonders, though I suspect many are buying these books simply as novelties  | ||
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