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On November 03 2010 08:41 LOLtex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 08:21 Romantic wrote:On November 03 2010 08:01 xDaunt wrote:On November 03 2010 07:59 Romantic wrote:On November 03 2010 07:42 Hans-Titan wrote:On November 03 2010 07:36 Savio wrote:On November 03 2010 07:22 misaTO wrote:On November 03 2010 07:20 domovoi wrote:On November 03 2010 07:16 misaTO wrote:
Better to be poor in Sweden than in the US of A. Depends. It's better to be in the bottom 20% of Sweden than the bottom 20% of the US, but anything higher than that, it's better to be in the US. http://i52.tinypic.com/2s9su3q.gif I do not care about who has more. I care the most about who doesn't have anything. Refer to my sig Wauw. The choice between socialism and capitalism isn't a binary one, but rather a continuum. And damn it, I told myself I wouldn't derail this thread any further, but there I go. Also my political science book would like a word with all of you guys spewing definitions around. Unrestrained socialism doesn't work. Unrestrained capitalism doesn't work. Seems pretty clear that the best choice is to be somewhere in between. Back on topic, if Russ Feingold doesn't get reelected I shall abandon all hope for these United States for the next 2 years. Feingold is almost definitely out, unfortunately. He shall be remembered for his No vote on the Patriot Act. Actually, he's being remembered for his "yes" votes on the stimulus bill and Obamacare, which is why he's being sent home. Stimulus bills and Obamacare, such evil has never been seen! Republicans have never done such things, I'd imagine. They only signed into law the largest entitlement increase in decades along with budget killing tax cuts on purpose (it was indeed a stimulative attempt with a sunset clause, let us not forget): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_and_Growth_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2003http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Growth_and_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2001Can't blame them though, right? Everyone knows tax cuts help the economy the most and pay for themselves! ![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/28qzs04.jpg) Alternatively: http://i51.tinypic.com/28qzs04.jpgOh shi-, they don't? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Prescription_Drug,_Improvement,_and_Modernization_ActThis was expensive too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_WarVote out Feingold, vote in "small government" Republicans! Life is good comedy. Bush might be a member of the republican party, but he sure as hell doesn't understand (much less represent) the concept of fiscal conservatism. His liberal expenses was why he was so universally detested among republicans and democrats alike.
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I see a lot of people tossing around strange notions about what fiscal conservatism means. It does not mean deregulation to the point of anarcho-capitalism and it does not mean casually throwing around hundreds of billions of dollars just because you can.
Bill Clinton practiced fiscal conservatism. George Bush Jr. practiced idiocy. Judging all conservatives by the standards of Bush Jr. -- as so many people on this forum do -- is ludicrous.
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CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House.
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It looks like Rand Paul is going to win. Wtf Kentucky?
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Goodbye Alan Grayson. You will not be missed one bit.
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On November 03 2010 10:37 NovaTheFeared wrote:
CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House.
Up next: partisan gridlock.
Actually that was already going (TY filibuster). I wonder when either party will agree to pass any legislation.
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On November 03 2010 10:42 Servolisk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:37 NovaTheFeared wrote:
CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House. Up next: partisan gridlock. Actually that was already going (TY filibuster). I wonder when either party will agree to pass any legislation.
Never.
That way they can claim that Obama did nothing during his presidency.
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Nothing particularly unexpected so far. Paul and Rubio, Coons and Bluementhal. All favorites. Manchin was a slight favorite, and outperformed his polls, but he's more conservative than the GOP nominee in Illinois. Go figure.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
Nate Silver has the Republican chances to take the Senate down at about nil, which was mostly what it was at the beginning of the night. Republican house candidates are performing slightly better than expected, but not by a whole lot. So the 60 seat pick-up looks accurate.
Hoping for Bennett in CO, even if Feingold is a lost cause in Wisco. (Sad.) It'll be a stunner if Dayton doesn't win the MN governorship. Will be interesting to see.
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On November 03 2010 10:44 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:42 Servolisk wrote:On November 03 2010 10:37 NovaTheFeared wrote:
CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House. Up next: partisan gridlock. Actually that was already going (TY filibuster). I wonder when either party will agree to pass any legislation. Never. That way they can claim that Obama did nothing during his presidency.
Possible silver lining to this: GOP now has to take some responsibility for government, gridlock lets up slightly?
Eh.
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On November 03 2010 10:40 GoShox wrote:
Goodbye Alan Grayson. You will not be missed one bit.
I will greatly miss Alan Grayson :[
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Never.
That way they can claim that Obama did nothing during his presidency.
I just adore the people who have been accusing Obama of not delivering on his promises when he cannot get his own laws passed and Republicans even back out of voting for their own formerly proposed legislation to avoid doing anything.
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On November 03 2010 10:44 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:42 Servolisk wrote:On November 03 2010 10:37 NovaTheFeared wrote:
CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House. Up next: partisan gridlock. Actually that was already going (TY filibuster). I wonder when either party will agree to pass any legislation. Never. That way they can claim that Obama did nothing during his presidency.
Usually its the congress that gets blamed for gridlock thou
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On November 03 2010 10:47 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:44 dcemuser wrote:On November 03 2010 10:42 Servolisk wrote:On November 03 2010 10:37 NovaTheFeared wrote:
CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House. Up next: partisan gridlock. Actually that was already going (TY filibuster). I wonder when either party will agree to pass any legislation. Never. That way they can claim that Obama did nothing during his presidency. Usually its the congress that gets blamed for gridlock thou
that has not been the narrative this time
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On November 03 2010 10:45 Servolisk wrote:
I just adore the people who have been accusing Obama of not delivering on his promises when he cannot get his own laws pass and Republicans even back out of voting for their own formerly proposed legislation to doing anything.
Still, you have to admit this has been a pretty brilliant stratagem by the Republicans after their staggering losses in 2008.
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On November 03 2010 10:53 Krigwin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:45 Servolisk wrote:
I just adore the people who have been accusing Obama of not delivering on his promises when he cannot get his own laws pass and Republicans even back out of voting for their own formerly proposed legislation to doing anything. Still, you have to admit this has been a pretty brilliant stratagem by the Republicans after their staggering losses in 2008.
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Brilliant strategy or retarded voters.
Republicans...were running on the economy....
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On November 03 2010 10:40 GoShox wrote:
Goodbye Alan Grayson. You will not be missed one bit.
Actually, I will miss him a lot. I just moved out of his district, I was upset that I could not vote for him any longer.
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It's gonna be a good night for Republican's that's for sure.
Ppl getting fed up with Dems lately I do believe. Funny how the scales just tilt back and forth over the years...
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On November 03 2010 10:50 Servolisk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:47 LSB wrote:On November 03 2010 10:44 dcemuser wrote:On November 03 2010 10:42 Servolisk wrote:On November 03 2010 10:37 NovaTheFeared wrote:
CNN projected a few minutes ago what everyone expected: Republicans have won a majority in the House. Up next: partisan gridlock. Actually that was already going (TY filibuster). I wonder when either party will agree to pass any legislation. Never. That way they can claim that Obama did nothing during his presidency. Usually its the congress that gets blamed for gridlock thou that has not been the narrative this time
Obama's approval raiting is about 46%, pretty high considering the situation.
Congressional approval raiting is about 17%.
Congress always seems a bit more scummy. Especially since Obama hasn't done anything incredibly stupid yet.
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On November 03 2010 10:58 LuckyFool wrote:
It's gonna be a good night for Republican's that's for sure.
Ppl getting fed up with Dems lately I do believe. Funny how the scales just tilt back and forth over the years...
Voters have amnesia and/or are stupid.
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