Pope compares secularism to Nazism - Page 21

On September 20 2010 08:55 wadadde wrote:The reason why religious people often take issue with people pointing out that they don't really have a leg to stand on, is IMO that they see their beliefs are such an integral part of their identity.

On September 20 2010 15:24 Nadir wrote:

Actually you're exactly right. I came to this exact same conclusion sitting in my psychology lecture after writing that post. Attack the core of someones identity and you get rage, a state of mind not conducive to logic or reasoning.

On September 20 2010 15:50 Electric.Jesus wrote:


That, combined with the fact that neither the theist nor the atheist position can be empirically proven.

Too bad, people forgot about the existentialist view: whether god exists or not should not f***ing matter!

On September 20 2010 16:45 exnomendei wrote:
Let's play a game: Guess whether I am atheist, Christian, or I follow the teachings of Buddha.

- I believe every person has the right to choose what they believe.
- I believe no person should push their religion, there-lack-of, or anything in between upon others.
- I believe nobody should try to cause harm to another person for any reason.
- I believe a person has the right to defend themselves when they are, however, hurt by another person.
- I believe morals are created by your surroundings, but that every person has the right morals to start out with in life.
- I do not believe there is a sure-fire way to make the world a better place, but we can try and do as much as possible to improve it.

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On September 20 2010 15:11 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Also, what point are you trying to make? Communist regimes were also mostly irreligious because religion was eradicated for loyalty to the state, and most of them have fallen. world powers today have thrived in which the majority of the community is religious. Again, my (and what I believe to be the pope's) viewpoint is not that society cannot survive without religion. As the examples you've pointed out show, that's simply not true. I think that a society could grow further if christian values were more strongly implemented into society.

On September 20 2010 17:42 zqfmgb wrote:


Strong Christian values like...

A raped virgin girl must marry her rapist.
Your parking spot was God-given.
Giving away all your material goods to the poor. (socialist?)
Killing your children if they cheek you.
Misguided obsession about reproductive organs.
Slavery.
Murdering non-Christians en masse.
Assuming regular, organic illnesses to be supernatural possessions/marks.

The good ol' days.

On September 19 2010 16:32 hypercube wrote:
It's funny how public personas can get away with statements that would get you banned on any respectable message board. Not for inflamatory language, just plain old trolling;

On September 20 2010 22:22 goldenkrnboi wrote:


stop trolling.

On September 20 2010 16:45 exnomendei wrote:
Let's play a game: Guess whether I am atheist, Christian, or I follow the teachings of Buddha.

- I believe every person has the right to choose what they believe.
- I believe no person should push their religion, there-lack-of, or anything in between upon others.
- I believe nobody should try to cause harm to another person for any reason.
- I believe a person has the right to defend themselves when they are, however, hurt by another person.
- I believe morals are created by your surroundings, but that every person has the right morals to start out with in life.
- I do not believe there is a sure-fire way to make the world a better place, but we can try and do as much as possible to improve it.

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On September 20 2010 23:06 Hawk wrote:


heh, the best post was all the way back on page one.

I think my other fav (from another board) was that 'well, you're allowed to start comparing people to nazis when you've actually been a nazi'
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Some other stupid shit that was said during this same tour:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11325699
"England today is a secularised, pluralistic country. When you land at Heathrow Airport, you sometimes think you'd landed in a Third World country."
Asked whether Christians were discriminated against in the UK, he said: "Particularly in England, an aggressive neo-atheism is widespread. For example, if you wear a cross with British Airways, you're discriminated against."

Now an immature, yet funny, picture to complete my wonderful post:

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I think atheism is the most dangerous thing out there because it removes all restraints and takes away any morals and inserts nothing. Human beings are selfish and evil and taking off the restraints will unleash the monster. You can justify anything with atheism as long as if further's your own goals. Atheists are only accountable to themselves and can easily change any moral or value. We have already seen it with Hitler, Stalin, and Mao among others. Human beings become expendable and their is no value to life (look at abortion). People are already selfish and apathetic but the rise in militant atheism is going to make it even worse.

Most people believe this even though the internet, and gaming are filled with young liberals/atheists for the most part so I'll get like 50 flames for this but I don't care. You can criticize me and the Pope all you want but I should be able to criticize atheism just as well.

On September 20 2010 23:47 Zzoram wrote:


Wrong. There is a huge difference between Catholics and Protestants and Anglicans. They are all Christians.