On August 26 2010 03:03 thesighter wrote: Americans are against the building of the mosque becuase it is offensive to the 9/11 families .
How is it offensive to 9/11 families? It's a mosque, there's others like it in and around New York.
They're building it at Ground Zero. The site where some extremist Muslims allegedly killed 3000 people for living in a capitalist world power of a country. Can't they at least have some decency about where they decide to build? I'm all for building it 2 blocks over. Imagine going to talk to your uncle, dead from the WTC attacks, and when you leave you happen to look up and see a giant mosque towering over you.
I don't live in New York anymore, so I don't know how much the culture there has changed since 9/11, but from my own point of view and being related to one of the people that died at Ground Zero, I'd think seeing that mosque would inspire negative feelings I'd rather not have towards the majority of Muslims. In one way it could bring the people closer together, and in another it could breed hatred just for being there with you when you decide to pay respects.
Hey, I have an opinion too.
It is 2 blocks from WTC more like 4 since the 2 blocks is calculated corner to corner. You won't even recognize it. It looks just like any other business building. Only top two floor is used as prayer room andn the rest is no different from an ordinary YMCA. You won't even know its there unless you actively go up to the top 2 floors.
Doens't matter if all muslims were a bunch of treehugging carebears, the us mass media (edit: and ofcoz your previous gov didn't help either) would still present them as "EEEEVOL TERRORRRISTMUSLIMS HIDING EVERYWHERE, TRYING TO KILL YOUR GRANDMOTHER" and you would still have characters like the stabber
On August 26 2010 07:45 xbankx wrote: It is 2 blocks from WTC more like 4 since the 2 blocks is calculated corner to corner. You won't even recognize it. It looks just like any other business building. Only top two floor is used as prayer room andn the rest is no different from an ordinary YMCA. You won't even know its there unless you actively go up to the top 2 floors.
On August 26 2010 03:03 thesighter wrote: Americans are against the building of the mosque becuase it is offensive to the 9/11 families .
How is it offensive to 9/11 families? It's a mosque, there's others like it in and around New York.
They're building it at Ground Zero. The site where some extremist Muslims allegedly killed 3000 people for living in a capitalist world power of a country. Can't they at least have some decency about where they decide to build? I'm all for building it 2 blocks over. Imagine going to talk to your uncle, dead from the WTC attacks, and when you leave you happen to look up and see a giant mosque towering over you.
I don't live in New York anymore, so I don't know how much the culture there has changed since 9/11, but from my own point of view and being related to one of the people that died at Ground Zero, I'd think seeing that mosque would inspire negative feelings I'd rather not have towards the majority of Muslims. In one way it could bring the people closer together, and in another it could breed hatred just for being there with you when you decide to pay respects.
Hey, I have an opinion too.
ROFL so i bet you think this is how the "mosque" (its not a mosuqe its an islamic centre) will look like; just towering over u...reminding you how islam has taken over your country. yep.
in reality its 5 blocks away from the site and theres other islamic centres there aswell cuz you know muslims live in new york, crazy i know. when in reality it will look like any other ordinary new york building. you won't even notice it
On August 26 2010 03:03 thesighter wrote: Americans are against the building of the mosque becuase it is offensive to the 9/11 families .
How is it offensive to 9/11 families? It's a mosque, there's others like it in and around New York.
They're building it at Ground Zero. The site where some extremist Muslims allegedly killed 3000 people for living in a capitalist world power of a country. Can't they at least have some decency about where they decide to build? I'm all for building it 2 blocks over. Imagine going to talk to your uncle, dead from the WTC attacks, and when you leave you happen to look up and see a giant mosque towering over you.
I don't live in New York anymore, so I don't know how much the culture there has changed since 9/11, but from my own point of view and being related to one of the people that died at Ground Zero, I'd think seeing that mosque would inspire negative feelings I'd rather not have towards the majority of Muslims. In one way it could bring the people closer together, and in another it could breed hatred just for being there with you when you decide to pay respects.
Hey, I have an opinion too.
ROFL so i bet you think this is how the "mosque" (its not a mosuqe its an islamic centre) will look like; just towering over u...reminding you how islam has taken over your country. yep.
in reality its 5 blocks away from the site and theres other islamic centres there aswell cuz you know muslims live in new york, crazy i know. when in reality it will look like any other ordinary new york building. you won't even notice it
ROFL If ur uncle died on 9/11 you wouldn't exactly be researching stuff titled "They're Building A Mosque At Ground Zero" would you?
BTW, thanks to all who helped inform me better about the situation. I was sorta avoiding the topic since I first heard about it but now I feel better.
Edit: I'm sorry you didn't bother reading my post closely enough to understand that I'm not against Muslims at all.
On August 26 2010 03:42 Wr3k wrote: On the most fundamental level Islam is intended to spread Sharia law world wide, the Qur'an even encourages its readers to hide their beliefs and intents from non-believers, and spread its political ideologies.
The Fuck are you talking about? I'm a muslim and I've never been thought that Sharia Law isnt meant to be world domination garbage. Its a law for muslims, I lived in Malaysia for 20 years and Sharia Law was only applicable to Muslims and people of other religions were not subject to it.
And NEVER have i read/ heard about the Quran encouraging Muslims to hide their religion for political idealogies, the only reason to hide the fact you were a muslim was if you were faced with a life threatening situation. What you said that doesn't make any sense, what kind of political ideologies are you talking about? As far as I know Islam is about equilibrium and certainty, politics has nothing to do with what it teaches.
I'm not trying to speak about Islam in general, I should have worded it more carefully. When I read the Qur'an that is how I interpreted it. I'm an agnostic atheist, so perhaps I am jaded and looked at it from a biased point of view, but I still cannot support it or any other religion. I hate how religion has become a dividing factor in this world.
Offensive to the victims of the world trade center? I guess there were some muslims working in the towers as well. I dont see how a mosque can be offensive to those -> Argument invalid.
On August 26 2010 07:06 Gatsbi wrote: Obviously it is ridiculous and over the top, but if you really think about it.. without religious people in the world it definitely WOULD be a better place.. there isn't much argument to it.
That's not true. The world is filled with too many stupid people. Religion keeps them in their place. That's why it was made.
Why religion works: 1) Offers an explanation as to why the universe started 2) Offers people a way to avoid death by promising everlasting life to its followers 3) Shames people for natural impulses, thus guaranteeing a steady stream of followers
On August 26 2010 07:06 Gatsbi wrote: Obviously it is ridiculous and over the top, but if you really think about it.. without religious people in the world it definitely WOULD be a better place.. there isn't much argument to it.
That's not true. The world is filled with too many stupid people. Religion keeps them in their place. That's why it was made.
Why religion works: 1) Offers an explanation as to why the universe started 2) Offers people a way to avoid death by promising everlasting life to its followers 3) Shames people for natural impulses, thus guaranteeing a steady stream of followers
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