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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 17:24:20
August 26 2010 17:23 GMT
#181
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"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 26 2010 17:29 GMT
#182
On August 27 2010 02:02 Offhand wrote:
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On August 27 2010 01:19 thesighter wrote:
Not all religions are created equal. Through human history, some eastern religions have been much more peaceful than Islam.

Good article regarding Islam and its views of the Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

<- hadith (action/saying attributed to Muhammad), often quoted by Hamas

From another hadith, "A Jew will not be found alone with a Muslim without plotting to kill him."

www.historyofjihad.org <- the spread of Islam and its wars


I wonder why the Muslims under Mohammed let the Israelis live peacefully after conquering Israel in the 7th century.

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Jews and Christians in Persia and Jews and Monophysites in Syria were dissatisfied and sometimes even welcomed the Muslim forces, largely because of religious conflict in both empires.[2] In the case of Byzantine Egypt, Palestine and Syria, these lands had only a few years before been reacquired from the Persians, and had not been ruled by the Byzantines for over 25 years.


It may have had something to do with the practice of accepting "people of the the book" which was used in both the initial Muslim conquests and the Ottoman Empire. The millet system included all conquered peoples as subjects of the nation, but not Muslim faith meaning religious laws did not apply to non-Muslims. Non-Muslims normally were required to pay a tax however (in keeping with the practice of alms-giving, known as zakat).

You're welcome to debate Islam as a hateful religion. I did my history thesis on Israel and the various peoples who ruled the area. If Mohamed wanted to annihilate the Jews he very well would have when Israel was conquered, but he let them live as peaceful subjects of the empire.

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Sunni and Shia reference different collections of the Hadith. The Sunni Haddiths were wriiten over 200 years after the death of Mohammed and their authenticity as actual works of Mohamed have been debated by Sunni scholars. Shia Hadiths were written by the "three Mohameds" so, yes, you can attribute their sayings to "a" Mohamed. Shia scholars have admitted there is not complete authenticity in any Hadith. Wahhabists are a Sunni sect.


Okay, so you're going to blame those quotes on the Sunnis. The Shia don't have a good tracking record on anti-Semitism either, especially in the modern age.

UN report on the textbooks published in Iran
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,FREEHOU,,IRN,,484901281a,0.html
The holocaust never happened!

If you want to talk about Muhammad, there are plenty of things to talk about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha
Muhammad took her as his wife when she was 6 or 7 years old. Was Muhammad a pedophile?
Achilles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada385 Posts
August 26 2010 17:30 GMT
#183
"Imagine all the people..."
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Calidus
Profile Joined April 2010
150 Posts
August 26 2010 17:31 GMT
#184
The issue is not whether a mosque should be allowed be built their or not(that is pretty obvious yes) the issue is, Who is building is this mosque? Are the moderate? or exterme As long as their are no "questionable" ties to groups like Ham-mass(not sure if that is the correct spelling) it should be built. As a conservative the only thing i dislike more than extremely left points of view are people who try to argue conservative topic and just end up sounding sounding like big-gits because they are uninformed.
Note:1100 Diamond take everything with a grain of salt.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 26 2010 17:34 GMT
#185
On August 27 2010 02:31 Calidus wrote:
The issue is not whether a mosque should be allowed be built their or not(that is pretty obvious yes) the issue is, Who is building is this mosque? Are the moderate? or exterme As long as their are no "questionable" ties to groups like Ham-mass(not sure if that is the correct spelling) it should be built. As a conservative the only thing i dislike more than extremely left points of view are people who try to argue conservative topic and just end up sounding sounding like big-gits because they are uninformed.

What bugs me is how social conservatives can step in and say a private group should be banned from building their own structure on private property. Obviously the reason is because they're not actual conservatives, they're just hypocrites and bigots, but there's quite a few of them these days. I almost wish there were more Libertarians to counteract them.

As for the "mosque", it's a Muslim YMCA with a prayer hall. It's no different than any JCC, and there's tons of them in NY.
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thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 26 2010 17:34 GMT
#186
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
August 26 2010 17:40 GMT
#187
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.


I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that.

Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway?
muta_micro
Profile Joined February 2010
United States183 Posts
August 26 2010 17:41 GMT
#188
On August 26 2010 03:08 hifriend wrote:
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On August 26 2010 03:02 Taniard wrote:
The only problem with the mosque is that it is insensitive, we really have no problem with it, just move it away. Im glad that the driver lived and is ok. It's sad to see such hate and anger

It's only insensitive if you hold the false assertion that Islam as a religion of approximately 1-1.8 billion practitioners is connected to the atrocities committed by a few in the name of Islam.

Some muslims also fell victim to 9/11, and from what it seems every muslim living in america is an indirect victim even today.

I wonder how your opinion would be different if a terrorist attack on the same scale of 9/11, in the name of Islam, happened in Sweden and then a muslim group wanted a mosque to be constructed nearby? I think anyone who isn't American really must understand that their opinions are irrelevant in this matter, because as much as you want to appear to be a modern, unbiased person, you have to understand that nationalist sentiments will override the views of people in the US who would otherwise share your same moderate views.
You know when you see a planet and you see that light, that planet isn't even there thats just a light, that's just your neighbor shining a flashlight into your backyard looking for coons.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 17:46:47
August 26 2010 17:44 GMT
#189
On August 26 2010 02:52 thesighter wrote:
Definitely related.

Mosque developers need to take a hint and stop the construction. If the mosque is constructed, I anticipate that there will be more anti-Islam violence, eg the mosque makes the situation of Muslims in NYC much worse.

Republicans are going to use this mosque issue as ammunition for the coming elections. Given that over 60% of Americans are against the mosque, this is going to bad news for the Obama administration.


Are you blaming the developers? Really now. Thank the media for bringing so much attention to it.

To clarify. It isn't even a mosque. -_-
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 26 2010 17:46 GMT
#190
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.


I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that.

Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway?


I'm stating the facts about Islam. I've seen plenty of Christianity bashing in these forums, everyone was fine with it. Islam needs to be criticized for it to be reformed.

The fundamental problems in Islam are related to the current poor state of the Middle East. Look at the advancement of Israel and compare it to its Arab neighbors. Without oil, how much different would the Arab states be from Africa ?

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 26 2010 18:08 GMT
#191

In another brazen anti-Muslim incident, a man wandered into a mosque in Queens Wednesday night, shouting racial slurs and urinating all over prayer rugs.

According to police, a drunk Omar Rivera shouted "terrorists" before relieving himself in the Iman Mosque.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
August 26 2010 18:24 GMT
#192
def against the mosque, while at it demolish all churches as well, religion is getting way too out of hand and its been like that since the inquisition
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 26 2010 19:25 GMT
#193
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.


I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that.

Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway?


Bill Maher on Islam. Not all religions are equal. Muslims love to point to Christianity to defend the flaws of Islam.

Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 26 2010 19:29 GMT
#194
The world would be so much better of without any religion at all. -__-
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 19:30:53
August 26 2010 19:30 GMT
#195
On August 27 2010 04:25 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.


I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that.

Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway?

+ Show Spoiler +

Bill Maher on Islam. Not all religions are equal. Muslims love to point to Christianity to defend the flaws of Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUEaMA4gRIk


Bill Maher is a high functioning retard. He's just a hair better then Beck or Coulter and draws idiot libertarians instead of idiot republicans.
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 26 2010 19:43 GMT
#196
On August 27 2010 04:30 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 04:25 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.


I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that.

Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway?

+ Show Spoiler +

Bill Maher on Islam. Not all religions are equal. Muslims love to point to Christianity to defend the flaws of Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUEaMA4gRIk


Bill Maher is a high functioning retard. He's just a hair better then Beck or Coulter and draws idiot libertarians instead of idiot republicans.


Pat Condell (UK atheist)



Richard Dawkins (UK atheist)

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 26 2010 19:48 GMT
#197
On August 27 2010 04:43 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 04:30 Offhand wrote:
On August 27 2010 04:25 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote:
[image loading]

"Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him."

Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam.


Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death.


I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that.

Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway?

+ Show Spoiler +

Bill Maher on Islam. Not all religions are equal. Muslims love to point to Christianity to defend the flaws of Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUEaMA4gRIk


Bill Maher is a high functioning retard. He's just a hair better then Beck or Coulter and draws idiot libertarians instead of idiot republicans.


Pat Condell (UK atheist)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

Richard Dawkins (UK atheist)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYus6TiGEE


Richard Dawkins hates every religion. And the first video is so biased and skewed I just had to turn it off.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 26 2010 19:53 GMT
#198
Please make it stop!!!!
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Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
August 26 2010 19:56 GMT
#199
Yeah, which is a shame since he is such a smart person. But the whole "faith sufferer" thing is over the top, and on this subject he us prone to mix a lot of bad arguments in with the legitimate criticism, as well as the legitimate concerns about our society's negative bias against atheists. Intelligence and prejudice are not mutually exclusive.
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 26 2010 20:00 GMT
#200
On August 27 2010 04:56 Signet wrote:
Yeah, which is a shame since he is such a smart person. But the whole "faith sufferer" thing is over the top, and on this subject he us prone to mix a lot of bad arguments in with the legitimate criticism, as well as the legitimate concerns about our society's negative bias against atheists. Intelligence and prejudice are not mutually exclusive.


You do know a lot of atheists are against Islam, right? It actually a LOT of sense, given that atheism is classified as apostasy in Islam, and it is punishable by death in many Muslim countries.
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