EPTBig mistake.
Functional languages (not to be confused with procedural languages) can teach you a lot and can change the way you program even in OO languages.
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Big mistake. Functional languages (not to be confused with procedural languages) can teach you a lot and can change the way you program even in OO languages. | ||
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Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
On March 23 2013 06:55 Morfildur wrote: Big mistake. Functional languages (not to be confused with procedural languages) can teach you a lot and can change the way you program even in OO languages. Yes, but functional languages rely on pretty difficult logical principles that not everyone needs to understand in order to do decent OO programming. I mean, I wrote my MSc's coding part in Ocaml, but it's not like I'd force every programmer to learn Haskell before Java. Probably only a very narrow subset of programmers actually need to learn functional programming. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
He will learn right from the bat to think how to solve problems with OO, and that's a good thing. Learning new paradigms is important though, it will give you different ways to think how to solve a specific problem. But yea, learning functional languages (or at least get in touch with them) is very important. (Scheme syntax (is a (pain in the ass)) though) | ||
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Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
On March 23 2013 07:10 fabiano wrote: That is not a mistake, it's okay. He will learn right from the bat to think how to solve problems with OO, and that's a good thing. Learning new paradigms is important though, it will give you different ways to think how to solve a specific problem. But yea, learning functional languages (or at least get in touch with them) is very important. (Scheme syntax (is a (pain in the ass)) though) This reminds me of a running joke back in my programming fundamentals course (we had an experimental course teaching us fundamentals in Scheme, the other group had C), goes something like this: + Show Spoiler + A hacker manages to break into the Pentagon and modify the page to display a big lambda. The FBI are unable to catch him, but stumble onto one of his mailboxes, so they decide to play nice and ask him to disclose the exploit. The hacker says that he cannot do that, but he can send them the last 500 characters of the exploit code, written in Scheme. The FBI agrees, then he sends them the code... ... 500 closing parentheses. (obviously one of those jokes that's only funny if you've been doing nothing but programming in Scheme for the past year) | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
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Athos
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On March 23 2013 07:22 Ilintar wrote: This reminds me of a running joke back in my programming fundamentals course (we had an experimental course teaching us fundamentals in Scheme, the other group had C), goes something like this: + Show Spoiler + A hacker manages to break into the Pentagon and modify the page to display a big lambda. The FBI are unable to catch him, but stumble onto one of his mailboxes, so they decide to play nice and ask him to disclose the exploit. The hacker says that he cannot do that, but he can send them the last 500 characters of the exploit code, written in Scheme. The FBI agrees, then he sends them the code... ... 500 closing parentheses. (obviously one of those jokes that's only funny if you've been doing nothing but programming in Scheme for the past year) This is a great joke. I'm learning scheme from SICP now and it really does change the way you think about programming. Definitely shouldn't be an intro level class though. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 23 2013 06:09 Recognizable wrote: Man. I just had a very weird experienced. I'm new to programming and I was doing this exercise on Euler and as I got stuck I sat back and looked at my code. Then it hit me. My variable names actually have meaning as in, they have meaning in the English language. When I program they lose all the meaning they had beforehand, the variable names will have become a number or a string. I can have a variable named: "Hello" and during my programming my brain doesn't register its meaning as "Hello" because it has become something entirely different. Made me question meaning, my life and everything for a moment. Then I got mad because my code wouldn't work. Project Euler really experienced this explosion in popularity recently. | ||
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Frigo
Hungary1023 Posts
On March 23 2013 06:09 Recognizable wrote: Man. I just had a very weird experienced. I'm new to programming and I was doing this exercise on Euler and as I got stuck I sat back and looked at my code. Then it hit me. My variable names actually have meaning as in, they have meaning in the English language. When I program they lose all the meaning they had beforehand, the variable names will have become a number or a string. I can have a variable named: "Hello" and during my programming my brain doesn't register its meaning as "Hello" because it has become something entirely different. Made me question meaning, my life and everything for a moment. Then I got mad because my code wouldn't work. Be sure to name your variables and functions in a way that reflects their meaning  Also get familiar with the concept of unit testing and Test Driven Development, Clean Code is an excellent starting point, it changes everyone's perspective on programming. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 25 2013 08:41 Moxi wrote: Hey Teamliquid users. I must ask, I want to learn before I go to sleep than just listen to music. Is there a way to listen to some kind of programming person who explains how different things work. Like how to create a database of members and how to make it secure? Would be very nice! If it were me I'd just google both topics. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On March 25 2013 08:41 Moxi wrote: Hey Teamliquid users. I must ask, I want to learn before I go to sleep than just listen to music. Is there a way to listen to some kind of programming person who explains how different things work. Like how to create a database of members and how to make it secure? Would be very nice! Programming stuff is hard to follow without visual aids. otherwise there's database lectures on coursera. best bet I think. | ||
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On March 28 2013 22:17 kollin wrote: I'm pretty new to programming, and I'm currently in the process of learning C through the use of various online guides. I was wondering, is there any resource out there that has a good collection of challenges so I can make sure I understand each concept I learn before I move on? My advice would be to start doing a "big" but simple project, and everytime you learn something new you can find a way to use it in your project. | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
Taking many courses on coursera and hoping to have 90%+ on most of them, which might help my CV and up my first year grades which were terrible, but now that second year has come, with more programming related subjects, I upped the ante. (Judge yourself if the phrase was correctly used )Anyways, thanks in advance. EDIT: Any info on abroad Masters in the field of Computer science is relevant. I'm totally clueless as to the whole applying, evaluation, housing and was hoping to learn it by asking around and taking things one step at a time... | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
However, I think this is more readable:
Sure, they may want to emphasise that catch is "part of" try{}, but it looks better if it's on a new line imho. Comments? Source: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/codeconventions-150003.pdf (7.9) | ||
tofucake
Hyrule18982 Posts
The way you prefer is the root of all evil | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 29 2013 02:37 tofucake wrote: The first way is proper The way you prefer is the root of all evil Indeed. Plus, it looks ugly :D | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On March 29 2013 02:37 tofucake wrote: The first way is proper The way you prefer is the root of all evil Erm, what's so evil? You're just trying to copy a popular phrase. | ||
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