G20 Protests Become Violent - Page 9

On June 27 2010 22:08 muse5187 wrote:
fucking police go away, we want to smash things.

On June 28 2010 01:08 travis wrote:
I know I am a few pages too late due to going to bed, but if it's been proven that the police go undercover to try to incite riot in the midst of peaceful protestors - doesn't that suggest conspiracy of a high caliber?

The orders to do that must come from high up, right? What would the police theirselves stand to lose by letting the protesters protest?

Maybe what I am saying is obvious. I am just surprised more people aren't outraged / incredibly disgusted by it.

On June 28 2010 01:07 StarStruck wrote:
The Liberal party is much better than the Conservative party, but we should leave politics out of this. We all know where that will lead this.

To the post above mine, if you didn't see my post before one of the major complaints people have is the ridiculous amount of money we're paying to host such an event. But, you probably don't pay taxes yet, so it's a mute point. :/

The problem is it's unjustified. I don't know about you, but I certainly don't want this coming out of my tax dollars. That's why there are so many different groups protesting. The money should have gone elsewhere.

On June 28 2010 01:18 exeexe wrote:
Because only the richest countries are involved in this. So the decissions at these meetings will be in the rich countries favour, in return putting the poor countries into a bigger slump than they are already.

On June 28 2010 01:20 Ramsing wrote:


It's just as rotten to see the wasteful spending of billions on maternal health in developing countries. We're in the middle of a recession, are going into a massive deficit, our naval ships on the East Coast are sitting in drydocks rusting away, our social programs are soon to be hit (Well...they already have begun to be hit) by the babyboomers, etc. etc. and we're wasting money on something as useless as maternal health? It helps Canadians not a whit to waste money on improving other countries: let's deal with our own before we start funding the development of the rest of the world.

On June 28 2010 01:23 Ramsing wrote:


Good. I'm in a rich country and I support my country getting richer. Why would I want anything less than the very best for my people?

On June 28 2010 01:23 Ramsing wrote:


Good. I'm in a rich country and I support my country getting richer. Why would I want anything less than the very best for my people?

On June 28 2010 01:31 sikyon wrote:
Alot of people are mad because they decided to host in toronto. CLEARLY they should have GIVEN IN to the protestors and moved the conference elsewhere.

SCREW THAT. That's letting violence and intimidation win. I refuse to allow my government to give into that shit. These violent protesters do not speak for me and I want to see them arrested and do time in jail. I want to see their lives ruined as they can't get decent jobs or leave the country upon release and learn what it means to live in a developed nation - what sorts of responsibilities you have to the public order.



THIS is why the rich countries are rich and why the poor countries are poor.

On June 28 2010 01:26 travis wrote:


Because your people live on the whole of the earth and not just within the same country as you.

When you start considering that the whole economy of rich countries is built on fucking poorer countries in the ass, the obscenity of your post becomes more blatant.

On June 28 2010 01:47 Ramsing wrote:


I am a Canadian and I am a German. Those are my people. You might reject nationalism, but I do not.



I'm well aware of how we became rich. If being rich means someone else has to be poor, then that's unfortunate. But it doesn't mean that we should stop being rich; we now enjoy the highest quality of living ever, and I'm not willing to give up what my ancestors fought to provide simply for the sake of global equality. Global equality will not improve my life, whereas constantly screwing poorer countries will, so why would I support it? It's entirely unrealistic to expect people to not act in a self-interested manner, yet that's precisely what people here seem to be advocating for, for what seems like purely altruistic reasons. Well, I reject that altruism and I'll stick with the methodologies that have been proven effective in a world with scarce resources.

On June 28 2010 01:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
That kind of racist self-satisfied shit makes me so fucking angry.

If americans, canadians and european companies didn't exploit the raw material of theses countries while supporting coprrupted government and fucking theses people who never see a penny of their own wealth in the ass, you couldn't hold the same discourse.

On June 28 2010 01:47 Ramsing wrote:


I am a Canadian and I am a German. Those are my people. You might reject nationalism, but I do not.

On June 28 2010 01:58 sikyon wrote:


I'm actually an immigrant from China, which has been historically fucked up the ass by european countries. However, like many other asian countries we basically learned from their superior technology and made our own quality of life better.

Canada has one of the greatest reserves of natural resources in the world so don't give me crap about third world raw materials.

The fact is that the best sciences, math and technology were invented by western countries, which they now leverage. It's not like there is some sort of responsibility to give this shit away to other people.

Anyhow I'm comfortable where I am and I am more concerned for myself than for the other nations that can deal with their own problems. WHY do I have some sort of responsibility towards them?

I also hate it when people try to get the government to give more aid. You're basically trying to take money away from your neighbors in taxes to give to a cause you believe in. Instead, you should just be donating that money you're saving by not having additional taxes directly. The aid that's given by governements should be what hte majority of people agree with.