Arizona SB1070 Anti Immigration Law - Page 8

On May 12 2010 09:58 ragnasaur wrote:

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
NBA superstar Charles Barkley and others such as myself are outraged with this new law.
Now officers can racially profile anyone who looks Mexican and ask them for their legality papers. I asked my mexican roommate what he would do if a cop asked him, he replied that he would tell the cop, "go fuck yourself."

According to the US Census Bureau, AZ had a 6,595,778 population in 2009. In 2008 30.1% of these people were persons of Hispanic or Latino origin.
Furthermore, Arizona used to be in Mexico... "In the Mexican–American War (1847), the U.S. occupied Mexico City and forced the newly founded Mexican Republic to give up its northern territories, including what later became Arizona" (wiki) Then again, countless Native American tribes were deported when we claimed America, so I gather this is standard protocol.

This law has already started protests of the state of Arizona, including one by Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik who refuses to uphold the law, saying it is "unwise", "stupid", and "racist."

Personally, as a non-mexican arizonan i find this law comparable to Nazi Germany's separation and purification techniques, and all together just flat out wack.
Thoughts? If anyone is for this law please state your reasoning as it baffles me that a resident of this fine state would support it.

On May 13 2010 01:21 JinMaikeul wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the issue of illegal immigration is one the should be solved by increased border control rather than harassing people already in the country... You want to keep people out? Build a fence... that's pretty much what China did with the Great Wall and apart from full scale military invasions, it did a pretty good job. If you're not going to strengthen the borders, stop whining about people crossing them...

On May 13 2010 01:33 Judicator wrote:
China's Great Wall was built on slave labor, who do you think is going to build this wall? The people whining/raging about immigration? Don't be dumb about it.

On May 12 2010 23:36 statix wrote:
Anything that doesn't treat American citizens differently just because of their race, color, or national origin. Does that sound too demanding?

On May 13 2010 01:37 xDaunt wrote:
The unfortunate reality is that illegal immigrants take far more out of the system than they contribute to it. Period. This isn't about racism. It's about fiscal reality.

On May 13 2010 02:50 Jibba wrote:

The unfortunately reality is that you can't back up this statement because it's simply not true. There's a short term loss in things like education, but there's no indication that Hispanic immigrants worsen societal ills (the opposite has largely found, actually) and they've become a necessary part of the economy. The notion that jobs are being taken away is flatly untrue because the work being done is otherwise unfilled 3D jobs, and the economies of Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and California are all better off for having large immigrant populations, and for having irregular immigrants.

Do you guys go grocery shopping at all? Do you know how much inflation would be caused if all illegal immigrants were found and deported?

On May 13 2010 01:26 AmstAff wrote:
in germany we started the same way and noone said something, maybe other countrys learned from german history.

if they woulds start such a stupid law in germany i would start fighting on the streets and im serious about this.

On May 13 2010 02:50 Jibba wrote:

The unfortunately reality is that you can't back up this statement because it's simply not true. There's a short term loss in things like education, but there's no indication that Hispanic immigrants worsen societal ills (the opposite has largely found, actually) and they've become a necessary part of the economy. The notion that jobs are being taken away is flatly untrue because the work being done is otherwise unfilled 3D jobs, and the economies of Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and California are all better off for having large immigrant populations, and for having irregular immigrants.

Do you guys go grocery shopping at all? Do you know how much inflation would be caused if all illegal immigrants were found and deported?

On May 13 2010 03:15 rageroll wrote:


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Also, in general I think we'd all be better off with no borders. Any law that strengthens borders or gives cops more power is bad IMO.

Lots of people in arizona hate this law. First and foremost there are shit tons of latinos here legally, human rights groups that sympathize with them, business owners who don't want half of their workforce / patrons to be dragged away in chains, and really anyone who pays attention to politics at all and isn't a biggot.

On May 13 2010 03:15 rageroll wrote:


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Also, in general I think we'd all be better off with no borders. Any law that strengthens borders or gives cops more power is bad IMO.

Lots of people in arizona hate this law. First and foremost there are shit tons of latinos here legally, human rights groups that sympathize with them, business owners who don't want half of their workforce / patrons to be dragged away in chains, and really anyone who pays attention to politics at all and isn't a biggot.

On May 13 2010 03:23 hacpee wrote:


No borders? Are you serious? There are 3 billion people who want to come into the US. Do you want us to support all those 3 billion? Fuck no. Fact is that 60% of Americans either support or think this law is too lenient.

On May 13 2010 01:54 Krikkitone wrote:


You do realize the law does that, it Specifically prohibits racial profiling. The cop can only ask for proof of immigration status if they have non-racially based reasonable suspicion that the individual is an illegal immigrant.