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On May 03 2010 23:44 Integra wrote:
At least regarding wars Human kind has improved drastically.
Before modern societies and such were established roughly 1% of the entire human population died each year by another human hand in small scale wars and raids mostly between tribes and clans.
If this would be same today it would mean that 1% of 6,000,000,000 people would die each year which would result into 60,000,000 people each year. This equals the total deaths of the second world war however this death rate was produced under 6 years (1939 to 1945). So It's allot less violent today, even during the second world war. We are going in the right direction.
check it out. this dude is happy because the rate at which we kill one another rises less meteorically than the rate at which we produce offspring.
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On May 03 2010 23:44 tinman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:43 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote: Not only am I part of the ruling elite, I'm a leader of the ruling elite. I can vouch for that. I'm his second-in-command, and we've got plans for all you dicks that extend for millenia.
What are you? Jews?!?!
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On May 03 2010 23:43 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:37 plated.rawr wrote:On May 03 2010 23:31 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:On May 03 2010 23:30 plated.rawr wrote:
Pessimistic. Money decides where mandkind will go, meaning a tiny minority decides the development for the vast majority through their short-sighted monetary goals. In not many years, oil will dry up, and even if we might have found better, cleaner and cheaper energy sources by then, the monetary ruling elite will use their power to halt the extent of these new energy sources to preserve their position of power as the ruling elite. This will result in the continued rape of second and third world resources, the machination of the majority of the first world citizens, and war for an obsolete power source.
If we survive the energy war, a new power elite for the new energy source will take over, and continue the cycle. Hey man. I'm part of that ruling elite and I resent being called short-sighted. History is not counted in years or decades, so unless you have plans on how to mold mankind for the next centuries, then you are short sighted. Also, unless you're a part of the 1% at the top, you're just a part of the machinized citizens of the first world. Not only am I part of the ruling elite, I'm a leader of the ruling elite.
Wether you are or not is unverifiable on the internet. It's also irrelevant for this thread.
Respect your own thread enough to not be trolling in it.
On May 03 2010 23:54 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:30 plated.rawr wrote:
Pessimistic. Money decides where mandkind will go, meaning a tiny minority decides the development for the vast majority through their short-sighted monetary goals. In not many years, oil will dry up, and even if we might have found better, cleaner and cheaper energy sources by then, the monetary ruling elite will use their power to halt the extent of these new energy sources to preserve their position of power as the ruling elite. This will result in the continued rape of second and third world resources, the machination of the majority of the first world citizens, and war for an obsolete power source.
If we survive the energy war, a new power elite for the new energy source will take over, and continue the cycle. I don't think you quite realize just how much having no oil will plunge the world in chaos. Nobody is going to care that much about money. If we have no viable alternative when oil runs dry our world will quickly look very different. Without oil you have no fuel, no transportation of food, no electricity, no nothing. When the transportation of goods stop...everything stops. Actual wars kill everyone, not just the soldiers.
When oil starts to run out, then ones who has amassed most will sit with power. These are the ones with monetary power, since anyone with half a brain understands that investing in something everyone needs, but is swiftly getting less of, gives you power of leverage and pure income through sales.
War for oil will start before we run out, since when we're out of it, we're all in the same pile of shit, and warring about that issue won't benefit anyone.
Sure, a world with no oil is close to unfathomable considering how much we depend on it, but alternatives are being produced, and while they will be supressed for as long as the ruling elite has oil, the world will not simply cease to function when oil ends. We will move to new power source/s, with a new ruling elite, which will carry on like the current does, enriching themselves and striving for their short-term goals at the cost of everyone else.
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Also very optimistic because technological evolution is growing exponentially. Look at the basic stuff. Clothes, a technological solution to the problem of cold winters and harsh climates. Books, a basic form of artificial memory enhancement and data transfer. This stuff took thousands of years to develop. In the last fifty years we've had high yield crops and nuclear power. In the last twenty the internet and the staggering advances in computing. In the last ten society has embraced the virtual world across all fronts, from e-commuting to online shopping, social websites and dating services.
Forget that X-men shit, if you just look around you and think about how quickly we're evolving technologically then you can't help but be optimistic.
Right now I'm digitising my thoughts on the subject and sharing them with thousands of people around the world. Does that not sound awesome to anyone else?
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On May 04 2010 00:09 KwarK wrote:
Also very optimistic because technological evolution is growing exponentially. Look at the basic stuff. Clothes, a technological solution to the problem of cold winters and harsh climates. Books, a basic form of artificial memory enhancement and data transfer. This stuff took thousands of years to develop. In the last fifty years we've had high yield crops and nuclear power. In the last twenty the internet and the staggering advances in computing. In the last ten society has embraced the virtual world across all fronts, from e-commuting to online shopping, social websites and dating services.
Forget that X-men shit, if you just look around you and think about how quickly we're evolving technologically then you can't help but be optimistic.
Right now I'm digitising my thoughts on the subject and sharing them with thousands of people around the world. Does that not sound awesome to anyone else?
Yes.
Technology is past the point where we don;t know what we are doing.. We know exactly what's going in a myriad of different fields of technology, especially medical sciences. I think we will have a cure for almost everything in the next 50 or so years.. Soon we will be able to replace any limb or organ with a robotic one and live for longer. The only problem I see is overpopulation but the earth will take care of that at some point.
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On May 03 2010 23:21 Badjas wrote:
zFly I have seen that movie already on dvd where it's titled 'The love guru'.
I haven't seen that movie, but I'm pretty sure from the reactions I've seen people make to that movie and from your post here that these youtube videos are not at all like that. I'm sure you didn't even watch the first 45 seconds of either of them.
Edit: I just watched some trailers for it on youtube and I'm confident you didn't even give this guy a chance. I can insult you too, but I choose not to at the present.
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On May 04 2010 00:06 plated.rawr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:43 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:On May 03 2010 23:37 plated.rawr wrote:On May 03 2010 23:31 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:On May 03 2010 23:30 plated.rawr wrote:
Pessimistic. Money decides where mandkind will go, meaning a tiny minority decides the development for the vast majority through their short-sighted monetary goals. In not many years, oil will dry up, and even if we might have found better, cleaner and cheaper energy sources by then, the monetary ruling elite will use their power to halt the extent of these new energy sources to preserve their position of power as the ruling elite. This will result in the continued rape of second and third world resources, the machination of the majority of the first world citizens, and war for an obsolete power source.
If we survive the energy war, a new power elite for the new energy source will take over, and continue the cycle. Hey man. I'm part of that ruling elite and I resent being called short-sighted. History is not counted in years or decades, so unless you have plans on how to mold mankind for the next centuries, then you are short sighted. Also, unless you're a part of the 1% at the top, you're just a part of the machinized citizens of the first world. Not only am I part of the ruling elite, I'm a leader of the ruling elite. Wether you are or not is unverifiable on the internet. It's also irrelevant for this thread. Respect your own thread enough to not be trolling in it. Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:54 Jayme wrote:On May 03 2010 23:30 plated.rawr wrote:
Pessimistic. Money decides where mandkind will go, meaning a tiny minority decides the development for the vast majority through their short-sighted monetary goals. In not many years, oil will dry up, and even if we might have found better, cleaner and cheaper energy sources by then, the monetary ruling elite will use their power to halt the extent of these new energy sources to preserve their position of power as the ruling elite. This will result in the continued rape of second and third world resources, the machination of the majority of the first world citizens, and war for an obsolete power source.
If we survive the energy war, a new power elite for the new energy source will take over, and continue the cycle. I don't think you quite realize just how much having no oil will plunge the world in chaos. Nobody is going to care that much about money. If we have no viable alternative when oil runs dry our world will quickly look very different. Without oil you have no fuel, no transportation of food, no electricity, no nothing. When the transportation of goods stop...everything stops. Actual wars kill everyone, not just the soldiers. When oil starts to run out, then ones who has amassed most will sit with power. These are the ones with monetary power, since anyone with half a brain understands that investing in something everyone needs, but is swiftly getting less of, gives you power of leverage and pure income through sales. War for oil will start before we run out, since when we're out of it, we're all in the same pile of shit, and warring about that issue won't benefit anyone. Sure, a world with no oil is close to unfathomable considering how much we depend on it, but alternatives are being produced, and while they will be supressed for as long as the ruling elite has oil, the world will not simply cease to function when oil ends. We will move to new power source/s, with a new ruling elite, which will carry on like the current does, enriching themselves and striving for their short-term goals at the cost of everyone else.
Alternative are being produced?
We have no TRUE alternative right now. All the alternatives we have the technology for don't even remotely come close to the efficiency of oil. The base issue is that every damn vehicle on the planet runs on either diesel or some other oil based fuel. How exactly are stores going to get food to them if the trucks they use can't even get to them?
Sure everyone has oil stocks but only enough to last MAYBE a year if you do heavy heavy rationing of it. Rationing means anything that isn't absolutely required will immediately stop receiving oil.
You really think that today's society will instantly revert to farming for their own foods without a little anger there? Everything that you take for granted will cease to function.
The only real way this will stop is if we figure out cold fusion, otherwise we are screwed. Cold fusion will also be hard to monopolize properly because it generates SO MUCH power with so little effort.
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There's only one way E-sports can go.. Which is up!!! and just imagine... Blizzard pumping out games like sc3,sc4,sc5 every single year... episodic expansions!! DLC!!! and all the fanboy wars! YEAAhhh
well, that's at least for the entertainment side. everything else I'm not too sure
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my guess is that if you take all the combined troubles we will face from now till in 100 years minus global warming, then it will (somewhere about) equal the trouble we will get from global warming 
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Seeing as how china is set up to be the next super power, I'd be more optimistic about the future if they allowed more freedom. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe their collective mindset will overall lead to more technological leaps and bounds for the human race on a whole.
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On May 03 2010 23:54 tinman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:44 Integra wrote:
At least regarding wars Human kind has improved drastically.
Before modern societies and such were established roughly 1% of the entire human population died each year by another human hand in small scale wars and raids mostly between tribes and clans.
If this would be same today it would mean that 1% of 6,000,000,000 people would die each year which would result into 60,000,000 people each year. This equals the total deaths of the second world war however this death rate was produced under 6 years (1939 to 1945). So It's allot less violent today, even during the second world war. We are going in the right direction. check it out. this dude is happy because the rate at which we kill one another rises less meteorically than the rate at which we produce offspring.
That I'm happy over this, well yea, it would be pretty fucking bad otherwise  And this is how it was in the world at one point.
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On May 04 2010 00:20 zFly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:21 Badjas wrote:
zFly I have seen that movie already on dvd where it's titled 'The love guru'. I haven't seen that movie, but I'm pretty sure from the reactions I've seen people make to that movie and from your post here that these youtube videos are not at all like that. I'm sure you didn't even watch the first 45 seconds of either of them. Edit: I just watched some trailers for it on youtube and I'm confident you didn't even give this guy a chance. I can insult you too, but I choose not to at the present.
I don't mean to insult. The movie I mentioned is a comedy, the clips you posted are for real world application, I know the difference. But the guys' looks are quite a good match and it's the same kind of character so I couldn't help but point that out.
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On May 04 2010 00:29 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 00:06 plated.rawr wrote:On May 03 2010 23:43 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:On May 03 2010 23:37 plated.rawr wrote:On May 03 2010 23:31 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:On May 03 2010 23:30 plated.rawr wrote:
Pessimistic. Money decides where mandkind will go, meaning a tiny minority decides the development for the vast majority through their short-sighted monetary goals. In not many years, oil will dry up, and even if we might have found better, cleaner and cheaper energy sources by then, the monetary ruling elite will use their power to halt the extent of these new energy sources to preserve their position of power as the ruling elite. This will result in the continued rape of second and third world resources, the machination of the majority of the first world citizens, and war for an obsolete power source.
If we survive the energy war, a new power elite for the new energy source will take over, and continue the cycle. Hey man. I'm part of that ruling elite and I resent being called short-sighted. History is not counted in years or decades, so unless you have plans on how to mold mankind for the next centuries, then you are short sighted. Also, unless you're a part of the 1% at the top, you're just a part of the machinized citizens of the first world. Not only am I part of the ruling elite, I'm a leader of the ruling elite. Wether you are or not is unverifiable on the internet. It's also irrelevant for this thread. Respect your own thread enough to not be trolling in it. On May 03 2010 23:54 Jayme wrote:On May 03 2010 23:30 plated.rawr wrote:
Pessimistic. Money decides where mandkind will go, meaning a tiny minority decides the development for the vast majority through their short-sighted monetary goals. In not many years, oil will dry up, and even if we might have found better, cleaner and cheaper energy sources by then, the monetary ruling elite will use their power to halt the extent of these new energy sources to preserve their position of power as the ruling elite. This will result in the continued rape of second and third world resources, the machination of the majority of the first world citizens, and war for an obsolete power source.
If we survive the energy war, a new power elite for the new energy source will take over, and continue the cycle. I don't think you quite realize just how much having no oil will plunge the world in chaos. Nobody is going to care that much about money. If we have no viable alternative when oil runs dry our world will quickly look very different. Without oil you have no fuel, no transportation of food, no electricity, no nothing. When the transportation of goods stop...everything stops. Actual wars kill everyone, not just the soldiers. When oil starts to run out, then ones who has amassed most will sit with power. These are the ones with monetary power, since anyone with half a brain understands that investing in something everyone needs, but is swiftly getting less of, gives you power of leverage and pure income through sales. War for oil will start before we run out, since when we're out of it, we're all in the same pile of shit, and warring about that issue won't benefit anyone. Sure, a world with no oil is close to unfathomable considering how much we depend on it, but alternatives are being produced, and while they will be supressed for as long as the ruling elite has oil, the world will not simply cease to function when oil ends. We will move to new power source/s, with a new ruling elite, which will carry on like the current does, enriching themselves and striving for their short-term goals at the cost of everyone else. Alternative are being produced? We have no TRUE alternative right now. All the alternatives we have the technology for don't even remotely come close to the efficiency of oil. The base issue is that every damn vehicle on the planet runs on either diesel or some other oil based fuel. How exactly are stores going to get food to them if the trucks they use can't even get to them? Sure everyone has oil stocks but only enough to last MAYBE a year if you do heavy heavy rationing of it. Rationing means anything that isn't absolutely required will immediately stop receiving oil. You really think that today's society will instantly revert to farming for their own foods without a little anger there? Everything that you take for granted will cease to function. The only real way this will stop is if we figure out cold fusion, otherwise we are screwed. Cold fusion will also be hard to monopolize properly because it generates SO MUCH power with so little effort.
Transitional power technology includes electricity and gas (no, not 'gas' as the american slang for oil-based fuel, but actual gas) for cars and trains, with also hydrogen hybrids and biofuel solutions extending our deadline. Airplanes and big-scale naval transportation will be screwed, but the world will not cease functioning although physical globalization will probably be reversed somewhat.
Mark yourself the word transitional though - these are patchwork solutions at best, and will only delay the inevitable. I won't theorize about potential future energy sources, since there's enough wild suggestions out there already.
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I'll get optimistic once we stop trying to build spaceships to propel us out of this planet and doing other trivial shit which doesn't go past being interesting (science), and start fixing our moral issues which haven't improved but merely displaced since we started existing.
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On May 04 2010 00:40 Railz wrote:
Seeing as how china is set up to be the next super power, I'd be more optimistic about the future if they allowed more freedom. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe their collective mindset will overall lead to more technological leaps and bounds for the human race on a whole.
I don't think china could ever become a threat to western countries. I can see how china's current development with respect to patents and copyright could force more freedom in western countries as a matter of necessity (being able to compete with china), but I think that's a pipe dream.
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In 50 years or so (within most of our lifetimes), Europe will look like Arab North Africa, the US like Latin America; western culture will be gone. Russia will disappear from the map, its vast territory divided between Turkey, Japan, and China. Africa will look pretty much the same. The Asians, despite being the most advanced people will not manage to colonize space, just as they weren't interested in colonizing on Earth. There will be a lot of terrorism, racism, nationalism, and blood feuds. Eugenics will be tried in a serious way, but the result will be a disappointment. History will be forgotten, and people will lose their ability to remember things in their day to day lives. Religious piety will be very strong, but the religions will tend to be tribal rather than universal. General satisfaction with life will not change very much one way or the other, because it never does or could.
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I think it's interesting how most popular conceptions of the future, as in movies and science fiction novels, always depict it as some kind of scientific utopia gone very wrong, maybe they are right.
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On May 03 2010 23:54 tinman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 23:44 Integra wrote:
At least regarding wars Human kind has improved drastically.
Before modern societies and such were established roughly 1% of the entire human population died each year by another human hand in small scale wars and raids mostly between tribes and clans.
If this would be same today it would mean that 1% of 6,000,000,000 people would die each year which would result into 60,000,000 people each year. This equals the total deaths of the second world war however this death rate was produced under 6 years (1939 to 1945). So It's allot less violent today, even during the second world war. We are going in the right direction. check it out. this dude is happy because the rate at which we kill one another rises less meteorically than the rate at which we produce offspring.
Hahaha this post made me laugh...because it's sad 
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