EPTOpera 10.5 out. "The Fastest Browser on Earth" - Page 10
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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MamiyaOtaru
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
Here'a Tom's Hardware comparison of the browsers! | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On March 05 2010 07:51 cabarkapa wrote: People who play starcraft can't accurately hit the right tabs easily? Quoted for emphasis. Everyone who is complaining about misclicking on the two pixels above the huge tab needs to learn some mouse skills. The border just makes it look nice. Has anyone noticed how cool the new ctrl+f find is? I really like how it searches the page and highlights the words. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On March 05 2010 10:41 Durak wrote: Quoted for emphasis. Everyone who is complaining about misclicking on the two pixels above the huge tab needs to learn some mouse skills. The border just makes it look nice. Has anyone noticed how cool the new ctrl+f find is? I really like how it searches the page and highlights the words. It's not that the tabs are two pixels smaller than they could be. They are infinitely smaller than they *could* be (vertically anyway. And not literally, but in terms of ease of clicking). If they were at the top of the screen you could throw your mouse to the top at whatever speed you felt like and hit a tab without worrying about flying past them. Fitts Law and all that. They could fix it without changing the visuals though. In XP or Vista or 7, use classic visual style (the boring grey style) Not forever, just for demo  The taskbar buttons have a space between them and the bottom of the screen. You can still click the button by clicking in that space. You couldn't in win98. It is much better to be able to. They made that change without changing the visuals; I'm sure Opera could do the same by messing with how the top part of the tabs look (have them extend higher than they appear to). | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On March 05 2010 10:50 MamiyaOtaru wrote: It's not that the tabs are two pixels smaller than they could be. They are infinitely smaller than they *could* be (vertically anyway. And not literally, but in terms of ease of clicking). If they were at the top of the screen you could throw your mouse to the top at whatever speed you felt like and hit a tab without worrying about flying past them. Fitts Law and all that. They could fix it without changing the visuals though. In XP or Vista or 7, use classic visual style (the boring grey style) Not forever, just for demo The taskbar buttons have a space between them and the bottom of the screen. You can still click the button by clicking in that space. You couldn't in win98. It is much better to be able to. They made that change without changing the visuals; I'm sure Opera could do the same by messing with how the top part of the tabs look (have them extend higher than they appear to).You're probably right. However, I have yet to miss it. I don't think it would be any faster or easier if I could just "throw" my mouse to the top of the screen. I think the problem is that people aren't very accurate with their mouse clicks and want a safety net. | ||
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United States1401 Posts
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cwbera
United States17 Posts
Toms hardware tests all the popular browsers, IE8, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and Opera in their crazy toms hardware fashion (tedious and meticulous and scientifically) Winner: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media.bestofmicro.com/,0-D-239773-3.png) this review was pretty informative.... the conclusion is a great read as well if you dont want the rest of it with a nice fanboy flame-shield: + Show Spoiler + These benchmarks give us a pretty good picture of which browser is the fastest. What these benchmarks do not reveal is the usability (or overall end-user experience) of these browsers. The staggering number of customization options available for Firefox, or the almost constant (and insufferably bothersome) prompting in Internet Explorer are just two examples of what cannot be benchmarked. Security is also a major concern, and something that was not tested for this article. We focused purely on speed and performance, and in those fields, Google Chrome takes the gold...at least in this round of the raging browser wars. | ||
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KingKRule
United States84 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17399 Posts
On March 05 2010 13:08 KingKRule wrote: Opera aint as fast as Chrome. Sorry guys, move along, nothing to see. Memory Usage Firefox Page Load Times Firefox Suck it Chrome. | ||
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hixhix
1156 Posts
I switched from opera to ff 1 since opera interface design was too much for my small monitor. Once I bought a widescreen, I went back to opera and live happily since then. Now, opera UI is more compact and it becomes ultimately better. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17399 Posts
On March 05 2010 15:12 hixhix wrote: Though the article sounds very technical, I refuse to believe ff is the winner of memory usage. The reason I stopped using ff is because everytime I have 5+ tabs, it uses all the memory available and force me to kill the firefox.exe process and I believe it had serve memory leak issue. It was ff 1x-2.x though, not sure about the recent versions but I still hear people complaining about ff memory usage. I switched from opera to ff 1 since opera interface design was too much for my small monitor. Once I bought a widescreen, I went back to opera and live happily since then. Now, opera UI is more compact and it becomes ultimately better. Dude... FF 1.x-2.x is nothing like 3.5.x-3.6.x FF has gone a really long way sine then and improved massively on all fields. And memory usage becomes an issue only if you have bazillion add-ons. What is nice in FF though, is that they tend to incorporate some of the features previously done by add-ons into the browser which significantly reduces the load. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On March 05 2010 10:41 Durak wrote: Quoted for emphasis. Everyone who is complaining about misclicking on the two pixels above the huge tab needs to learn some mouse skills. The border just makes it look nice. Has anyone noticed how cool the new ctrl+f find is? I really like how it searches the page and highlights the words. See, you're clearly not a chrome user, because if you were, you'd understand. Of course I can hit my tabs correctly if I pay enough attention to it. But enough means too much sometimes. I really don't wanna think about hitting the tabs correctly and avoiding the annoying 2 pixels. I just move my mouse the fuck up without paying 0.1% thought/hand sensitivity to it and hit the tab every time. Everyone has their own relative standards, those are some of mine. | ||
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Katkishka
United States657 Posts
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exp
New Zealand91 Posts
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
On March 05 2010 12:47 cwbera wrote: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-chrome-opera,2558.html Toms hardware tests all the popular browsers, IE8, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and Opera in their crazy toms hardware fashion (tedious and meticulous and scientifically) Winner: + Show Spoiler + this review was pretty informative.... the conclusion is a great read as well if you dont want the rest of it with a nice fanboy flame-shield: + Show Spoiler + These benchmarks give us a pretty good picture of which browser is the fastest. What these benchmarks do not reveal is the usability (or overall end-user experience) of these browsers. The staggering number of customization options available for Firefox, or the almost constant (and insufferably bothersome) prompting in Internet Explorer are just two examples of what cannot be benchmarked. Security is also a major concern, and something that was not tested for this article. We focused purely on speed and performance, and in those fields, Google Chrome takes the gold...at least in this round of the raging browser wars. The only reasonable conclusion to extract from their tests is that Opera and Chrome are closely tied for first place, and their methodology doesn't have the precision to (seriously) tell them apart. Safari seems to be a clear 3rd, Firefox a clear 4th and IE a clear last. Concluding that Chrome beats Opera from that is a mistake that would get destroyed in a scientific review, the results are really too close for the precision of their methodology. Also, they somewhat arbitrarily put Opera and Safari as 2nd and not tied for 1st with Chrome on the Acid3 test. It's perfectly smooth on my (slower) computer, so I see no reason why. That would actually give Opera the win according to their conclusion methods, although I feel it's still a tie anyway. They mostly didn't put a weight on the effective results of each test, but just 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th, which is also very dubious. And they implicitly assumed every one of their tests should have the same weight as well. Last but not least, their memory usage test is laughable. Browsers tend to stay open for a long time (and if it's not the case for you, memory usage is likely not a factor at all). Redo exactly the same tests after having let the browsers sit for 12 hours and be amazed at the results. | ||
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Neivler
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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