On March 06 2010 14:46 Chuiu wrote: Yeah but its still better than Opera's shit.
Its not even a proper adblock, it only hides the images. Opera's adblock is pretty good and simple to use you just click on empty space and click block content and you block the ads you want. Also the link rabidch posted is fantastic, I never knew about this, thanks a lot.
Opera Pros: - looks amazing and is space efficient - feels faster and lighter than Firefox - good features out of the box
Cons: - no adblock, and the hosts file adblock sucks (doesn't work as good) - some websites just don't work right and that annoys the hell out of me - I had some problems with bookmarks - I often had to reenter my password on some sites, even though I saved them, annoying.
I can't live with these Cons so it's back to good old FF to me. Only things I really miss are native speed dial and the cool UI.
On March 07 2010 02:23 snowbird wrote: After using Opera for 2 days I'm back to Firefox.
Opera Pros: - looks amazing and is space efficient - feels faster and lighter than Firefox - good features out of the box
Cons: - no adblock, and the hosts file adblock sucks (doesn't work as good) - some websites just don't work right and that annoys the hell out of me - I had some problems with bookmarks - I often had to reenter my password on some sites, even though I saved them, annoying.
I can't live with these Cons so it's back to good old FF to me. Only things I really miss are native speed dial and the cool UI.
What a bullshit... I usually set ABP to allow my favorite sites for everything. Unless they introduce some god damned pop-ups or something which I will be forced to block manually.
I checked the link and the amount of entitlement-based whining is staggering.
"I like to look at your site without ads! Since you complained about it, I'll leave!"
"You should be able to run the site entirely off of donations!"
If you don't subscribe and you don't look at the ads, you use their server bandwidth and give them absolutely nothing in return and they would actually prefer that you leave and never come back.
On March 10 2010 10:02 EmeraldSparks wrote: I checked the link and the amount of entitlement-based whining is staggering.
"I like to look at your site without ads! Since you complained about it, I'll leave!"
"You should be able to run the site entirely off of donations!"
If you don't subscribe and you don't look at the ads, you use their server bandwidth and give them absolutely nothing in return and they would actually prefer that you leave and never come back.
Christ people are stupid.
Who cares how they make their money, the less inconvenient my time on their site is, the more I'll use it; therefore I give them more hits, which feeds their bandwidth budget from advertisement. Win win if you ask me. Just look at teamliquid even... This site has very few ads and 90 per cent of the people here don't donate or give back anything. Seems like everything is doing ok though.
Anyway, I love Opera in all ways but one above Firefox. I don't like how java doesn't work half of the time. An example would be chess.com and their live feature. Oh well, I still use it.
On March 10 2010 10:02 EmeraldSparks wrote: I checked the link and the amount of entitlement-based whining is staggering.
"I like to look at your site without ads! Since you complained about it, I'll leave!"
"You should be able to run the site entirely off of donations!"
If you don't subscribe and you don't look at the ads, you use their server bandwidth and give them absolutely nothing in return and they would actually prefer that you leave and never come back.
Christ people are stupid.
Who cares how they make their money, the less inconvenient my time on their site is, the more I'll use it; therefore I give them more hits, which feeds their bandwidth budget from advertisement. Win win if you ask me. Just look at teamliquid even... This site has very few ads and 90 per cent of the people here don't donate or give back anything. Seems like everything is doing ok though.
Anyway, I love Opera in all ways but one above Firefox. I don't like how java doesn't work half of the time. An example would be chess.com and their live feature. Oh well, I still use it.
Sites do not get any advertising revenue from the pay-per-view advertisers (who can tell if their ads are not being displayed) if you visit them with an ad-blocker on. You win, they lose.
Also I have no idea how the finances of TL.net are run.
I'm making a genuine effort to try Opera as a replacement browser. It's fast, lightweight, but has some nasty issues.
- Redraw time is either instant or one second. Instant is too quick, you end up with badly rendered page that jumps all over the place as it loads, and one second is way too long. It needs to be configurable in milliseconds.
- Unable to import awesomebar / passwords from Firefox.
- Terrible ad blocking, blocked elements aren't collapsed leaving gaps all over the page.
- Tabs are big, can't fit as many tabs as FF.
- Odd missing elements when going back to a page that has been loaded for a while.
- Very poor behavior regarding bad SSL certs.
- Slightly odd rendering of some elements / CSS.
I'm hoping in time I'll get used to it as I'm growing tired of FF's ridiculous resource usage. A browser shouldn't feel slow on a 3 GHz Dual Core.
And another major one:
- Minimizing or not using the browser for a while seems to force it to deallocate memory so it takes forever to page back in.
10.5 has serious problems. After a concerted effort to try and use it, it's just too buggy. It has what appears to be a serious memory leak or other memory management problem, causing excessive pagefile usage that gets worse the longer the browser is open.
On March 06 2010 15:35 Stormscion wrote: I use Opera and Chrome as support ... before chrome i used FF as support ... i like opera a lot , mouse gestures and middle mouse scroll , and its fast and you don't need to thinker with extensions , FF out of box dont offer anything , yes you can make monster if you add like 100 extensions but i get all i need from opera instal so i dont need to think about that ... for people who need more i guess FF is best ... for me atm its opera then chrome tbh.
you do realize that Chrome has middle mouse scroll as well right? and if you hold the shift key, it'll scroll from left to right too. that's something that opera doesn't have and i really like in chrome cause i always have multiple windows open.