15 YO kills mom over Counter-Strike - Page 7
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Slow Motion
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sfdrew
United States201 Posts
On February 07 2010 03:29 MoltkeWarding wrote: Why isn't it logical? No one who is addicted to computer games plays them because of their marvelous foresight. The immediate need overwhelms any anticipated consequences, resulting in unsound judgement. That is the nature of addiction. You cannot become addicted to video games, how many times do people have to keep saying this! Why don't you go learn something addiction and then come back and post. | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On February 07 2010 05:26 sfdrew wrote: You cannot become addicted to video games, how many times do people have to keep saying this! Why don't you go learn something addiction and then come back and post. Addiction isn't limited to a physiological phenomenon. It can be purely psychological. A dictionary, a psychiatrist and a Psychology professor would all say so. | ||
ZeeTemplar
United States557 Posts
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sfdrew
United States201 Posts
On February 07 2010 05:45 Liquid`NonY wrote: Addiction isn't limited to a physiological phenomenon. It can be purely psychological. A dictionary, a psychiatrist and a Psychology professor would all say so. Everything from your consciousness to your emotions to memories is controlled by your brain; everything that goes on in your brain is a physiological phenomenon. It is well known how chemical drugs cause physical dependences but no such cause has been found for things like video games and gambling. The best you can do is find studies that show people who engage in those activities are likely to have symptoms described in the DSM related to addiction, but the DSM is nonsense. It hasn't been that long that the DSM described homosexuality as a disorder. 1) Just because something is labeled a disorder doesn't mean that is correct. 2) Just because somebody has symptoms doesn't prove their origin. 3) Even if you could prove that somebody was chemically addicted to video games, it wouldn't say anything about the cause because video games themselves cannot cause such chemical reactions. | ||
WaveMotion
United States147 Posts
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On February 07 2010 05:22 Slow Motion wrote: maybe the real reason he killed her is cuz the bitch named him fuckin ionut Ionut (Ion) is the Romanian Johnny (John). | ||
zekie
Canada380 Posts
On February 06 2010 10:28 [Azn]Nada wrote: man... this is why i stopped playing CS... too violent of a game. My friends/parents all said i got a lot more aggressive when I played Counterstrike. It's really fun and stuff, but it just makes you mad so easily. i think you're influenced by little things too easily.... and that kid is either crazy or has a mental illness IMO | ||
starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On February 07 2010 07:14 sfdrew wrote: Everything from your consciousness to your emotions to memories is controlled by your brain; everything that goes on in your brain is a physiological phenomenon. It is well known how chemical drugs cause physical dependences but no such cause has been found for things like video games and gambling. The best you can do is find studies that show people who engage in those activities are likely to have symptoms described in the DSM related to addiction, but the DSM is nonsense. It hasn't been that long that the DSM described homosexuality as a disorder. 1) Just because something is labeled a disorder doesn't mean that is correct. 2) Just because somebody has symptoms doesn't prove their origin. 3) Even if you could prove that somebody was chemically addicted to video games, it wouldn't say anything about the cause because video games themselves cannot cause such chemical reactions. Are you nitpicking semantics or are you claiming that there is no condition where someone is so compelled to do something than they're willing to ruin their lives to do it. We call that psychological addiction - is your obejction of the word 'addiction', or that that condition does not exist. Isn't it a bit naive to assume that everyone who does just that is some sort of deprived and depressed person trying to escape their life? Really? | ||
ryuu_
United States1266 Posts
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Navi
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On February 07 2010 09:50 Mora wrote: Are you nitpicking semantics or are you claiming that there is no condition where someone is so compelled to do something than they're willing to ruin their lives to do it. We call that psychological addiction - is your obejction of the word 'addiction', or that that condition does not exist. Isn't it a bit naive to assume that everyone who does just that is some sort of deprived and depressed person trying to escape their life? Really? Smokin Weed Everydayyy. | ||
sfdrew
United States201 Posts
On February 07 2010 09:50 Mora wrote: Are you nitpicking semantics or are you claiming that there is no condition where someone is so compelled to do something than they're willing to ruin their lives to do it. We call that psychological addiction - is your obejction of the word 'addiction', or that that condition does not exist. Isn't it a bit naive to assume that everyone who does just that is some sort of deprived and depressed person trying to escape their life? Really? I don't think they are deprived or depressed, but I do believe that most people who "play too much" really just are trying to escape their life. It could be a bad marriage, trouble at work, an illness, who knows why people aren't happy. If you are in a relationship you don't like, working for $9 an hour at a gas station and are always constantly broke, wouldn't you want to escape to a world where you can be a hero? People with mental problems have mental problems regardless of what they do or what they become obsessed with or where they live or when they were born. Sociopaths like the kid that killed his adopted mother had mental illnesses that have nothing to do with video games or gambling or even drug addictions. If he had never played a game in his life but drank like a fish, people would blame the alcohol, or the music he listened to, or anything they wanted to wage a personal war on. As somebody else pointed out, video games are not addicting in the way chemical drugs are. A person could conceivably become addicted to video games, but not because the games are addicting. In addition, they certainly aren't going to make somebody kill who wouldn't have done it anyways. I used to be in the Army for 6 years and I spent 2 years in Iraq. I have shot a lot of real weapons and shot some weapons at people. I have been trained to kill people, for real, and I have also played a lot of FPS, and I can tell you right now that anybody who says that any game is a killing simulator is full of crap. | ||
coltrane
Chile988 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On February 06 2010 23:30 Squallcloud wrote: Am I understanding this correctly? He was playing with a hood over his head? Like some sort of terrorist? Was he Live action roleplaying? Dunno but if i was a cafe manager i would find this strange... O_o Lol for all we know he could just have a hoodie sweatshirt that he really liked and the news was sensationalizing things. Not saying that is necessarily the case, just possible. | ||
lazz
Australia3119 Posts
2. You cannot, and I repeat, CANNOT become addicted to video games. An addiction is a physical dependance. Words mean things. You can't just co-opt a word for your own use in order to steal its emphasis. Drugs cause physical dependance in the brain, video games cannot do this. lol. you realise that when a person plays a videogames especially one like SC where there's adrenaline etc the thrill of winning releases chemicals in the brain .. thats what causes the addiction. you can become dependant on that rush just like you would a drug. | ||
Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
The sad part is that jail probably won't rehabilitate him. | ||
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