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ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
January 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#241
the value in ipad is in the software all the magazines, newspapers, and book publishers are going to be making. if you want to do that then this is a good product, if not then pass
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 28 2010 22:27 GMT
#242
On January 29 2010 06:15 Jibba wrote:
From Adobe's Flash Platform blog:
Show nested quote +
It looks like Apple is continuing to impose restrictions on their devices that limit both content publishers and consumers. Unlike many other ebook readers using the ePub file format, consumers will not be able to access ePub content with Apple's DRM technology on devices made by other manufacturers. And without Flash support, iPad users will not be able to access the full range of web content, including over 70% of games and 75% of video on the web.
If I want to use the iPad to connect to Disney, Hulu, Miniclip, Farmville, ESPN, Kongregate, or JibJab -- not to mention the millions of other sites on the web -- I'll be out of luck.


Also, according to Engadget, Fujitsu is already selling a device called iPad and has a pending trademark application for it.

Whatever the reason behind the lack of flash support is, it does put a bit of pressure on Adobe that Apple should be moving along a h.264 and html 5 track, which imo isn't bad at all. Of course, it also means that the product's usability to most people dropped to nil, but still.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17770 Posts
January 28 2010 22:34 GMT
#243
On January 29 2010 02:35 Cloud wrote:
Yeah I know it's not all about design yet some people, notably in this forum, take apple's good design as a personal offense and suddenly say there's nothing to apple but design. Wtf? As I have said before, it's hard to drag a different opinion from people who are only used to playing videogames and watching flash videos. I'm sure plenty of people here will say that Linux sucks, because games don't fucking work!


Most people don't take Apple's design as an offense. It's just that Apple is making stuff just because of the design. Like aforementioned MacBook Air which is super thin and sleek looking but a piece of overheating garbage without basically any ports (1x USB and 1x RJ45, no cd-rom or whatever), slow and small harddrive etc.
I mean, what if I wanted to print some file I have on a CD if this stuff would be the only laptop I have?
I would have to plug in the SuperDrive (for a mere $100), copy the file to the comp, unplug the drive, plug in the printer and then print... All that without a mouse. Are they serious?

And games do work on Linux. So does Photoshop and almost anything released for Windows and list of supported stuff is growing on a daily basis. Sorry to spoil your rant.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
January 28 2010 22:38 GMT
#244
On January 29 2010 07:34 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 02:35 Cloud wrote:
Yeah I know it's not all about design yet some people, notably in this forum, take apple's good design as a personal offense and suddenly say there's nothing to apple but design. Wtf? As I have said before, it's hard to drag a different opinion from people who are only used to playing videogames and watching flash videos. I'm sure plenty of people here will say that Linux sucks, because games don't fucking work!


Most people don't take Apple's design as an offense. It's just that Apple is making stuff just because of the design. Like aforementioned MacBook Air which is super thin and sleek looking but a piece of overheating garbage without basically any ports (1x USB and 1x RJ45, no cd-rom or whatever), slow and small harddrive etc.
I mean, what if I wanted to print some file I have on a CD if this stuff would be the only laptop I have?
I would have to plug in the SuperDrive (for a mere $100), copy the file to the comp, unplug the drive, plug in the printer and then print... All that without a mouse. Are they serious?

And games do work on Linux. So does Photoshop and almost anything released for Windows and list of supported stuff is growing on a daily basis. Sorry to spoil your rant.

Then don't buy a Mac Book Air? Your hypothetical situation is retarded.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 28 2010 22:45 GMT
#245
Not even gonna bother, I think it needs some serious work before I consider getting it.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
AtomicReaction
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada57 Posts
January 28 2010 22:50 GMT
#246
On January 29 2010 07:38 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 07:34 Manit0u wrote:
On January 29 2010 02:35 Cloud wrote:
Yeah I know it's not all about design yet some people, notably in this forum, take apple's good design as a personal offense and suddenly say there's nothing to apple but design. Wtf? As I have said before, it's hard to drag a different opinion from people who are only used to playing videogames and watching flash videos. I'm sure plenty of people here will say that Linux sucks, because games don't fucking work!


Most people don't take Apple's design as an offense. It's just that Apple is making stuff just because of the design. Like aforementioned MacBook Air which is super thin and sleek looking but a piece of overheating garbage without basically any ports (1x USB and 1x RJ45, no cd-rom or whatever), slow and small harddrive etc.
I mean, what if I wanted to print some file I have on a CD if this stuff would be the only laptop I have?
I would have to plug in the SuperDrive (for a mere $100), copy the file to the comp, unplug the drive, plug in the printer and then print... All that without a mouse. Are they serious?

And games do work on Linux. So does Photoshop and almost anything released for Windows and list of supported stuff is growing on a daily basis. Sorry to spoil your rant.

Then don't buy a Mac Book Air? Your hypothetical situation is retarded.


I think he was more making the point that apple is making products simply because they look pretty from a design standpoint, not because they are actually filling any niche in the market. To a certain degree, I am behind that.

His situation with the MacBook Air is more an example of a previous product that apple released that was similar to the iPad. sure it's cool and pretty and very small, but why do you need a slow computer? Specifically, why do you need a slow computer at that price point.

Apple's products are starting to trend towards the overpriced and no clearly defined use end of the spectrum, and it's confusing why people keep buying them. It's not like their tablet is this new fangled invention that has finally come into being like Christ descending from the clouds. I've had an hp tablet laptop for a year and a half now. It cost me $900 (bit of a discount but still), and not only do I get a tablet, I also get a half decent computer with keyboard, dvd-rom, 250gb of storage(the new ones have 500) etc. What does the iPad do that another device or two other devices for the same cost couldn't?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-28 22:53:49
January 28 2010 22:53 GMT
#247
Apple is the biggest scam in Human history since the virginity of Mary.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
AtomicReaction
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada57 Posts
January 28 2010 22:58 GMT
#248
On January 29 2010 07:53 Boblion wrote:
Apple is the biggest scam in Human history since the virginity of Mary.


This just made my day.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
January 28 2010 23:35 GMT
#249
I can't justify buying the iPad because of the existence of the iPhone.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#250
On January 29 2010 07:50 AtomicReaction wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 07:38 selboN wrote:
On January 29 2010 07:34 Manit0u wrote:
On January 29 2010 02:35 Cloud wrote:
Yeah I know it's not all about design yet some people, notably in this forum, take apple's good design as a personal offense and suddenly say there's nothing to apple but design. Wtf? As I have said before, it's hard to drag a different opinion from people who are only used to playing videogames and watching flash videos. I'm sure plenty of people here will say that Linux sucks, because games don't fucking work!


Most people don't take Apple's design as an offense. It's just that Apple is making stuff just because of the design. Like aforementioned MacBook Air which is super thin and sleek looking but a piece of overheating garbage without basically any ports (1x USB and 1x RJ45, no cd-rom or whatever), slow and small harddrive etc.
I mean, what if I wanted to print some file I have on a CD if this stuff would be the only laptop I have?
I would have to plug in the SuperDrive (for a mere $100), copy the file to the comp, unplug the drive, plug in the printer and then print... All that without a mouse. Are they serious?

And games do work on Linux. So does Photoshop and almost anything released for Windows and list of supported stuff is growing on a daily basis. Sorry to spoil your rant.

Then don't buy a Mac Book Air? Your hypothetical situation is retarded.


I think he was more making the point that apple is making products simply because they look pretty from a design standpoint, not because they are actually filling any niche in the market. To a certain degree, I am behind that.

His situation with the MacBook Air is more an example of a previous product that apple released that was similar to the iPad. sure it's cool and pretty and very small, but why do you need a slow computer? Specifically, why do you need a slow computer at that price point.

Apple's products are starting to trend towards the overpriced and no clearly defined use end of the spectrum, and it's confusing why people keep buying them. It's not like their tablet is this new fangled invention that has finally come into being like Christ descending from the clouds. I've had an hp tablet laptop for a year and a half now. It cost me $900 (bit of a discount but still), and not only do I get a tablet, I also get a half decent computer with keyboard, dvd-rom, 250gb of storage(the new ones have 500) etc. What does the iPad do that another device or two other devices for the same cost couldn't?


Apparent you get having a lighter Pad and getting to use Apple's shitty iphone OS instead of Microsoft's shitty mobile OS.

Actually the Mac Book Air is very nice and useful but only for a small select few travelers.

Most people buy it for the cool factor. Not very compelling reason, but some people like to blow money on expensive gadgets. It's for the status. Kudos for Apple for effective marketing.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 03:45:16
January 29 2010 03:20 GMT
#251
On January 29 2010 07:34 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 02:35 Cloud wrote:
Yeah I know it's not all about design yet some people, notably in this forum, take apple's good design as a personal offense and suddenly say there's nothing to apple but design. Wtf? As I have said before, it's hard to drag a different opinion from people who are only used to playing videogames and watching flash videos. I'm sure plenty of people here will say that Linux sucks, because games don't fucking work!


Most people don't take Apple's design as an offense. It's just that Apple is making stuff just because of the design. Like aforementioned MacBook Air which is super thin and sleek looking but a piece of overheating garbage without basically any ports (1x USB and 1x RJ45, no cd-rom or whatever), slow and small harddrive etc.
I mean, what if I wanted to print some file I have on a CD if this stuff would be the only laptop I have?
I would have to plug in the SuperDrive (for a mere $100), copy the file to the comp, unplug the drive, plug in the printer and then print... All that without a mouse. Are they serious?

And games do work on Linux. So does Photoshop and almost anything released for Windows and list of supported stuff is growing on a daily basis. Sorry to spoil your rant.


I think you might have missed the "ultraportable" part. Most of those kinds of laptops don't have cd-roms as a rule. Why the heck would you want a cd rom anyway? It would add to the heat and they wouldn't be as portable. And on that point, every laptop in existence has heating issues don't try to play the smartass and shrug this off as an overheating piece of crap.

One usb is sufficient, and have you ever heard of BLUETOOTH? The rj45 is a bonus and coupled with the usb you can dock it in a station, and either way with an ultraportable you want wi-fi.

A big part of the design is that it doesn't feel like a fragile piece of plastic like the rest of the ultraportables.

And your analogy of the cd rom in hell, well, BLUETOOTH motherfucker. OR a god damn docking station where I imagine you have your printer, external cd-rom and whatever other shit because you are a smart kid who uses his laptop as the mobile part of his work station, I'd imagine you don't carry your printer and cd-rom along with your laptop everywhere.

Games don't run as fast as they could on Linux. Macs can run photoshop, why the hell would you think otherwise? that list of supported stuff is for Unix, that includes OS X did you know?

Look, here's a review of the macbook air from a reputable site: http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3226

And no asshole you didn't spoil my "rant".
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 03:32:59
January 29 2010 03:25 GMT
#252
On January 29 2010 08:44 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 07:50 AtomicReaction wrote:
On January 29 2010 07:38 selboN wrote:
On January 29 2010 07:34 Manit0u wrote:
On January 29 2010 02:35 Cloud wrote:
Yeah I know it's not all about design yet some people, notably in this forum, take apple's good design as a personal offense and suddenly say there's nothing to apple but design. Wtf? As I have said before, it's hard to drag a different opinion from people who are only used to playing videogames and watching flash videos. I'm sure plenty of people here will say that Linux sucks, because games don't fucking work!


Most people don't take Apple's design as an offense. It's just that Apple is making stuff just because of the design. Like aforementioned MacBook Air which is super thin and sleek looking but a piece of overheating garbage without basically any ports (1x USB and 1x RJ45, no cd-rom or whatever), slow and small harddrive etc.
I mean, what if I wanted to print some file I have on a CD if this stuff would be the only laptop I have?
I would have to plug in the SuperDrive (for a mere $100), copy the file to the comp, unplug the drive, plug in the printer and then print... All that without a mouse. Are they serious?

And games do work on Linux. So does Photoshop and almost anything released for Windows and list of supported stuff is growing on a daily basis. Sorry to spoil your rant.

Then don't buy a Mac Book Air? Your hypothetical situation is retarded.


I think he was more making the point that apple is making products simply because they look pretty from a design standpoint, not because they are actually filling any niche in the market. To a certain degree, I am behind that.

His situation with the MacBook Air is more an example of a previous product that apple released that was similar to the iPad. sure it's cool and pretty and very small, but why do you need a slow computer? Specifically, why do you need a slow computer at that price point.

Apple's products are starting to trend towards the overpriced and no clearly defined use end of the spectrum, and it's confusing why people keep buying them. It's not like their tablet is this new fangled invention that has finally come into being like Christ descending from the clouds. I've had an hp tablet laptop for a year and a half now. It cost me $900 (bit of a discount but still), and not only do I get a tablet, I also get a half decent computer with keyboard, dvd-rom, 250gb of storage(the new ones have 500) etc. What does the iPad do that another device or two other devices for the same cost couldn't?


Apparent you get having a lighter Pad and getting to use Apple's shitty iphone OS instead of Microsoft's shitty mobile OS.

Actually the Mac Book Air is very nice and useful but only for a small select few travelers.

Most people buy it for the cool factor. Not very compelling reason, but some people like to blow money on expensive gadgets. It's for the status. Kudos for Apple for effective marketing.


Yeah man, there's a huge ass difference (in numbers) between apple consumers and microsoft consumers. I'm sure they are all just for show since that really makes sense with the economical distribution of this planet.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
proberecall
Profile Joined August 2009
United States104 Posts
January 29 2010 03:30 GMT
#253
On January 28 2010 23:17 win8282 wrote:
Though I am no apple fan, I gotta say the iPad does look sexy... though obviously I won't buy it since anything that's apple (except maybe ipods) are waay overpriced considering their shitty functions.

Netbook > iPad ($700 for 64gb????!! I understand its SSD, but still...)
Laptop >>>> iPad

That said, and like others have said, iPad will sell so well... damnit, shoulda bought Apple stocks a month ago

HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
January 29 2010 03:30 GMT
#254
its being sent out so soon cause its trend setting. thats what Mac is really all about, makeing you think its i good idea to have the next step in tech.

From a marketing point of view its smart, as the last 2 things they did (iphone i pod) were sucessfull, although there are and were better things when both came out.

As usual they send the cheapo ( for them ) version so if it dosent work they dont lose that much money but if it dose they will slowly make it better and better, and they win big bucks the first day.

Advice: Dont buy it wait for something better to come out or wait 4-6 months for it to lower its price
in The Kong line forever
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
January 29 2010 04:01 GMT
#255
Yeah, the iPad has got to be the WORST name ever, considering it sounds like something a girl would use during menstruation, and they could've chosen from iSlate, iTablet, and basically everything EXCEPT iPad.
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Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
January 29 2010 04:07 GMT
#256
On January 29 2010 13:01 NeCroPoTeNce wrote:
Yeah, the iPad has got to be the WORST name ever, considering it sounds like something a girl would use during menstruation, and they could've chosen from iSlate, iTablet, and basically everything EXCEPT iPad.

ROFLMAO.
Blah
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
February 02 2010 02:31 GMT
#257
Not that I actually want one of these things, but...

Look at this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500

Hmmmm... a bunch of nerds trashing the iPod after it's announcement. I definitely lol'd
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 02:57:07
February 02 2010 02:49 GMT
#258
On February 02 2010 11:31 lu_cid wrote:
Not that I actually want one of these things, but...

Look at this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500

Hmmmm... a bunch of nerds trashing the iPod after it's announcement. I definitely lol'd


Well the original iPod was really shitty. So, you should wait another year and get the iPad when it actually has something useful on it
:)
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
February 02 2010 03:04 GMT
#259
On February 02 2010 11:49 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 11:31 lu_cid wrote:
Not that I actually want one of these things, but...

Look at this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500

Hmmmm... a bunch of nerds trashing the iPod after it's announcement. I definitely lol'd


Well the original iPod was really shitty. So, you should wait another year and get the iPad when it actually has something useful on it


True, true. I don't think the iPad will sell well enough to have multiple revisions though, lol. Could be wrong
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 04:45:05
February 02 2010 04:37 GMT
#260
On January 29 2010 12:25 Cloud wrote:
Yeah man, there's a huge ass difference (in numbers) between apple consumers and microsoft consumers. I'm sure they are all just for show since that really makes sense with the economical distribution of this planet.

I'm going to assume this is sarcastic.

1) Yes there is a huge ass difference in numbers. As of December, Microsoft makes up 92% of OS market share, Apple makes up about 5%.

2) Economic distribution of the planet? Most of the planet doesn't fall in the income range for buying personal computers to begin with. In fact, I'd say that the numbers probably fall within the reasonable range when compared to the incomes of the computer-buying population (especially when factoring in self-important college students who buy Macs with zero income skewing the numbers).

In fairness, I generally don't have a beef with Apple's hardware design. Yes it's overpriced, but a lot of that pricing comes into customer service and ease-of-use--which is primarily geared to a demographic that I don't fall into. I'm not going to bitch about something just because I'm not the target demographic. What I dislike about Apple is their philosophy to software design--the culture of strict control of what their product can be used for that's embodied in the iPhone App Store, as well as Apple's continued efforts to hamstring third-party interaction with the iPhone/iPod Touch (e.g. they were willing to give up functionality as a storage device when the sole apparent reason for doing so would be to prevent non-Itunes media players from syncing with the device).
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