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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:15 LF9 wrote: If you want to make more than 1 vote. do a Google search for free "web proxy" and vote more than once using a proxy site. www.unblockmyspace.com is a good example. Yeah one could write a script to give infinite votes using a proxy while they sleep | ||
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LF9
United States537 Posts
Just tried about 5 different web proxies, it seems someone else used my idea. Most of the major web proxies has already been used judging by the IP logger. | ||
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LF9
United States537 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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PrideNeverDies
Kazakhstan74 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On January 21 2010 13:29 Mickey wrote: So you're argument is basically everyone else is doing it, so why can't she? I don't necessarily agree with that argument. I find it incredibly scummy that she mostly just comes here to ask for help from the community and uses cute girlish gestures to appease her so called fellow "Nerds". She called us "nerds" affectionately so don't try to blow that out of proportion. Every one of us here at TL is at least somewhat of a nerd if we are starcraft enthusiasts who post on a website dedicated to it, so I don't find anything wrong with that. You clearly must be insecure about it to have pointed that out as a problem. In fact, uncontrollable has hundreds of posts on her account and has played a reasonable amount of starcraft herself. She's a nerd too, even though she employs "cute girlish gestures"! Feel better now? I'm also pretty sure most contestants aren't appeasing large internet groups who they aren't very familiar with for votes. At most, people would be making Twitter/Myspace/FB announcements to their friends/family for votes. So it's cool for friends and family to help out just because they know the person? If this were the only factor involved, it would mean that whoever has more friends and family would win. Do you feel that this is a satisfactory, or better, measure than something equally as arbitrary as how many votes they can garner through advertising? I have news for you, just about any vote-based contest like this, e.g. politics, is all about who can convince more people to vote for them using whatever legal methods they have at their disposal, whether or not they are really the best candidate. This is the way Democracy works, the hope is that there is at least some correlation between how many votes someone gets through these means and how good of a candidate they are. I would say throughout history it's obvious that it works to at least some degree. It's not like we have some omniscient mathematical formula we can use to compute a value for each candidate and choose whoever gets the highest number. | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
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sYz-Adrenaline
United States1850 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:38 PrideNeverDies wrote: voted New Hampshire because OP is encouraging cheating through proxies. ...... how do you think New Hampshire got all those votes in the first place? Not because of her being green speech i'm sure.. | ||
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On January 21 2010 12:15 errol1001 wrote: Yep, Go look in blogs a couple days back for one from a guy with 88 posts, who worked for a charity, and thinks that we should all vote for his charity... That guy has 4500 posts on LiquidPoker and is a big contributor there. Anyway, +1 for Oregon. | ||
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
She called us "nerds" affectionately so don't try to blow that out of proportion. Every one of us here at TL is at least somewhat of a nerd if we are starcraft enthusiasts who post on a website dedicated to it, so I don't find anything wrong with that. You clearly must be insecure about it to have pointed that out as a problem. In fact, uncontrollable has hundreds of posts on her account and has played a reasonable amount of starcraft herself. She's a nerd too, even though she employs "cute girlish gestures"! Feel better now? You completely missed my point. I was simply stating that she uses the fact that she's a girl and a so called "nerd" for her own benefit. I'm not insecure, you just need to read what I wrote. I could care less whether or not she plays starcraft , because it's not a issue. Using this site for her own clear benefit, while others can't is. I also don't know why you even brought up post count. Even if post count was a reasonable way to judge someones standing on a message board, half her posts are from that blog thread where people would ask her questions. So it's cool for friends and family to help out just because they know the person? If this were the only factor involved, it would mean that whoever has more friends and family would win. Do you feel that this is a satisfactory, or better, measure than something equally as arbitrary as how many votes they can garner through advertising? I have news for you, just about any vote-based contest like this, e.g. politics, is all about who can convince more people to vote for them using whatever legal methods they have at their disposal, whether or not they are really the best candidate. This is the way Democracy works, the hope is that there is at least some correlation between how many votes someone gets through these means and how good of a candidate they are. I would say throughout history it's obvious that it works to at least some degree. It's not like we have some omniscient mathematical formula we can use to compute a value for each candidate and choose whoever gets the highest number. That's completely ridiculous. Garnering the support of family/friends/and state community does not measure up to asking random strangers to vote for you, just because you vaguely state how great they are and why they deserve to win. I'm completely against any form of cheating, and just because some of these contestants might be doing this does not make it ethical for everyone to be doing it. She's trying to use a video game community to help her friend advance in a miss America pageant using petty devices. I just don't honestly think that's okay, and I'm glad our mods will be enforcing the new policy. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On January 21 2010 15:36 Mickey wrote: You completely missed my point. I was simply stating that she uses the fact that she's a girl and a so called "nerd" for her own benefit. I'm not insecure, you just need to read what I wrote. I could care less whether or not she plays starcraft , because it's not a issue. Using this site for her own clear benefit, while others can't is. I also don't know why you even brought up post count. Even if post count was a reasonable way to judge someones standing on a message board, half her posts are from that blog thread where people would ask her questions. That's completely ridiculous. Garnering the support of family/friends/and state community does not measure up to asking random strangers to vote for you, just because you vaguely state how great they are and why they deserve to win. I'm completely against any form of cheating, and just because some of these contestants might be doing this does not make it ethical for everyone to be doing it. She's trying to use a video game community to help her friend advance using petty devices. I just don't honestly think that's okay, and I'm glad our mods will be enforcing the new policy. Look, you threw out nasty insults at uncontrollable in order to make her look stupid and selfish for starting a thread like this, and that's my main concern with your original post. The other point here is that we disagree whether or not using TL to help vote is cheating. I say it's not for my previously stated reasons, you say it is because somewhere that you have not described, you draw the line for when and why it's okay to vote for someone in a competition like this. I don't understand what this has to do with who actually came in here asking for TL's help, nor her gender or the way she exploits it in a female barren community like TL. Maybe the thread should be closed, since it gets a little ridiculous having these "win the internet" threads around TL so often. But I don't think such a thread or the intention of getting TL to help out is inherently wrong. Just for the record, I voted twice. | ||
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
As far as you voting twice, I find it disgusting that you did. It's as simple as that and I'm glad any future voting threads will be closed automatically as the moderation has decided. I'm glad we'll be avoiding these threads all together. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
She is selfish for asking the community to help further her career, but at no point was I trying to insult her. It's an unfair advantage in my opinion. Also, don't even accuse me of such things as I clearly had and show no intent of wanting to do something like that. She's doing it for a friend, so she's not being selfish, I don't see what's the big problem, it's the nature of these things to try to involve as many groups of people as possible :S. That's completely ridiculous. Garnering the support of family/friends/and state community does not measure up to asking random strangers to vote for you, just because you vaguely state how great they are and why they deserve to win. I'm completely against any form of cheating, and just because some of these contestants might be doing this does not make it ethical for everyone to be doing it. She's trying to use a video game community to help her friend advance in a miss America pageant using petty devices. WTF? The "state community" is huge and she doesn't know the vast majority of them, if she's getting votes from them how is it any better than getting votes from a community site. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On January 21 2010 13:29 Mickey wrote: I find it incredibly scummy that she mostly just comes here to ask for help from the community and uses cute girlish gestures to appease her so called fellow "Nerds". I'm also pretty sure most contestants aren't appeasing large internet groups who they aren't very familiar with for votes. At most, people would be making Twitter/Myspace/FB announcements to their friends/family for votes. Agree with this. Asking people for random votes on TL is a pretty cheap way to get a million (not really but yeah) of votes. Would a guy get the same glorified treatment? A guy who wasn't incontrols girlfriend? Of course not. I basically agree with what HotBid posted earlier: Keep the votes SC-related. | ||
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:38 PrideNeverDies wrote: voted New Hampshire because OP is encouraging cheating through proxies.  Anyone who thinks the other leaders in that race are legit as well are idiots. You think NH and Alaska populations are that large relative to the other states? Obviously the states where people have significant leads are as such because they have advertised some (which is no diff than this), or have a large group of friends speading the word, or are using other websites, local media or something to get those votes. And i'd bet not a single one of those votes is on the merits either. Don't try to play the good guy in a sea of shit. | ||
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Dracid
United States280 Posts
In an ideal world, you wouldn't be appealing to strangers on the internet to bolster your votes, and people would vote intelligently after viewing all the contestants. Realistically however, everybody else is doing the same thing. There's no way you can win without appealing to strangers, or getting support from people who otherwise wouldn't care enough to vote if they weren't somehow affiliated with a contestant. Be honest, do you think more than 1% of the voters looked through more than 5 states, much less 50? It's a beauty pageant. the whole point is that it's essentially a popularity contest, and to see whoever has the most connections. Then again, I think beauty pageants in general are shallow and trite. Sort of ironic considering Miss (some state) used to be in my class, and she actually struck me as somebody with character as well as looks. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
 ont: voted. | ||
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