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On January 13 2010 10:51 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 10:47 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 10:42 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 10:40 sith wrote:
Maybe China will now realize that they are a bunch of fucking children and get with the rest of the free world. Jesus christ I'm fed up with this shit. "China executes tourists", "China bombs human rights activists families", blah blah blah that's all I hear about in the news about China. Grow up retards, at least pretend to act like a real country. Free world that kill million innocents right? Their government is far less evil than yours, that's for sure. And what kind of freedom do you have, that chinese don't? I can use blogger.com You think they don't have an equivalent? Free access to Youtube, Zoo porn, um other kinds of porn, gore and other internet treasure. Okay. What else? Democracy voting? Your population will vote for that guy media promotes, as simple as that and there is no other way.
At least our media can promote whatever it wants to
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On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video?
oh yeah lets kill all the jewish people again, they are evil!!
there isn't a historical factor behind the reason the number of jews on power in USA is so high, its just because they are evil and must be dead!
LOL
oh god... can't believe I still argue against ignorant racists...
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On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video?
lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK.
You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl.
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Google will be a world power by 2050...
Oh wait..
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On January 13 2010 12:28 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video? lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK. You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl.
If you close-mindedly dismiss it for no good reason, there are still other people and videos, but they are so much less direct and honest.
Like This or This
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On January 13 2010 12:41 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 12:28 Sadist wrote:On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video? lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK. You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl. If you close-mindedly dismiss it for no good reason, there are still other people and videos, but they are so much less direct and honest. Like This or This
How is that no good reason? You've been blowing my mind consecutively throughout this thread, but this one takes the cake. Do you know what being a Grand Wizard in the Klu-Klux-Klan implies?
Alright so the video just finished (yes, I watched it all), and it's pretty much the same anti-Jewish power theory that has been claimed by countless other people..
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On January 13 2010 12:41 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 12:28 Sadist wrote:On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video? lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK. You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl. If you close-mindedly dismiss it for no good reason, there are still other people and videos, but they are so much less direct and honest. Like This or This
Fuck you
Can you please not spread anti-semitic propaganda around here? That video is totally bullshit and is the exact same lie that put Hitler in power. The great Jewish conspiracy has been around forever and has absolutely no truth behind it at all.
Besides, it has nothing to do with the OP at all.
On topic: I think this is an interesting and commendable move from Google considering their strong initiative for human rights. I feel really bad for Chinese posters like Emlary now.  I guess you don't think about the freedoms you have until you lose them.
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Hmm, maybe Google was about to get kicked out of China for whatever reason (not necessarily the story they're spinning) - and this story makes it easier for them to save face?
But stories like MaZza[KIS]'s is one of the reasons why I'm starting to get wary of google - they're cataloging so much information, including information on people, that perhaps eventually they'll know all about your preferences, relationships, and your life - and can make good predictions about your behavior, and more.
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On January 13 2010 12:45 Romance_us wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 12:41 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 12:28 Sadist wrote:On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video? lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK. You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl. If you close-mindedly dismiss it for no good reason, there are still other people and videos, but they are so much less direct and honest. Like This or This How is that no good reason? You've been blowing my mind consecutively throughout this thread, but this one takes the cake. Do you know what being a Grand Wizard in the Klu-Klux-Klan implies?
Embrace the information and it will blow your mind even more. You don't need to be a supremacist for that.
User was warned for these chains of posts.
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On January 13 2010 12:53 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 12:45 Romance_us wrote:On January 13 2010 12:41 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 12:28 Sadist wrote:On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video? lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK. You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl. If you close-mindedly dismiss it for no good reason, there are still other people and videos, but they are so much less direct and honest. Like This or This How is that no good reason? You've been blowing my mind consecutively throughout this thread, but this one takes the cake. Do you know what being a Grand Wizard in the Klu-Klux-Klan implies? Embrace the information and it will blow your mind even more. You don't need to be a supremacist for that.
Embrace it? I absorbed it but I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do I believe that there is some mysterious Jewish World Order now? Is that your question? No, I don't. The only thing that "blew my mind even more" was that you think I watched the 10 minute video to not watch the 10 minute video.
edit: Scrolling through the comments are funny. The people who fully support this are the same ones who claim the holocaust didn't happen/was grossly overstated.
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On January 13 2010 12:41 Magic84 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 12:28 Sadist wrote:On January 13 2010 12:09 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:55 motbob wrote:On January 13 2010 11:53 Magic84 wrote:On January 13 2010 11:20 motbob wrote:How can you know what our media is like? I know for a fact that China restricts a whole bunch of freedoms and fails to guarantee others. I know that no matter what, freedom of the press in the United States is guaranteed. There have been attempts in the past from the U.S. government to squash that right (Pentagon Papers), and those attempts have been unsuccessful. On the other hand, the Chinese government claims to guarantee that right, but in reality does not. I know a whole bunch about your media and about media in general. The fact that it was free, or i'd say free for grabs, it allowed for organized effort to buy it out completely. Right now it is controlled. Right now it's the nastiest propaganda machine that world has ever seen, you are presented with very limited information, ignoring a lot of atrocious events and subjects and concentrating on minor violence and injustices in China or Middle East. Same can be said about Western and Eastern Europe but the situation is not as gross. It's not politically correct issue to talk about on american forum, but you will easily find out if you just try. "I'm going to make a lot of claims about something that I'm not directly experiencing, but I won't try to provide any evidence because it wouldn't be 'politically correct.'" I agree, it's just me being a pussy. Alright. What can you say about this Video? lol david duke used to be a grand wizard in the KKK. You gotta consider where this guy comes from rofl. If you close-mindedly dismiss it for no good reason, there are still other people and videos, but they are so much less direct and honest. Like This or This
contrary to popular belief there are many people in the united states who dont blindly support israel and have heard/seen how fucked up palestine is. There are fucked up people on both sides. That 2nd video is just a soldier talking about how he felt. People say stuff like this all the time in the US. This isnt "news." Dont get the idea that america is nothing but a bunch of bible thumping rednecks. Thats only some of us. It would be like me comparing everyone in Russia to the KGB. Its obviously not the case.
Still though, David Duke is a racist moron. Asking him about jews is like asking Jerry Falwell about gay people.
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just some'good PR to leave a market where they're losing anyway...
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Except they aren't losing.
According to the information posted previously, they've been GAINING market share (albeit fairly slowly) and currently have 31% of the market. That's not small beans when considering the number of internet users in China and its rapid growth.
This is undoubtedly not the whole story of course. Only Google can know their exact reasons for this move.
Also, all this talk about American media, and Jewish power blocks, and David Duke (LOL) is stupid and off-topic. Make a new thread, if you want to beat the dead horse.
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American news media is deeply flawed. Granted. And as an American, it's something I readily admit and hope to see change. But for an anti-Semitic Russian lunatic to come in here, call it the nastiest propaganda tool in history and then to simultaneously endorse the KKK and various Hitlerisms is nothing more than heinous bullshit at its sickest. Maybe I'm just another ignorant American mimicking my media because I've heard them talk ill of the Klan ..
As for Google's move, I'm glad. This obviously has financial ramifications and is not exclusively a moral decision (no decision that a multi-billion dollar business makes is), it is nonetheless a positive message. Will this move China to suddenly open itself up? No. Is it one more straw on an exceptionally strong camel's back? Yes.
A member of Google's management was interviewed on CNBC and it's up at NYT. Check it out.
I guess one question is, will Americans remember our own before leaping to condemn the Chinese? No, probably not.
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I have a feeling Google and China had some sort of disagreement other than Chinese organizations hacking Google's userdata.
I would be surprised if those organizations recently began the hacking; it must have been an ongoing process for a long time. I feel that Google only chose to disclose such delicate information as a result of a bigger conflict in interest.
I doubt we would ever hear the full story.
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I thought the link didn't work, but when I re clicked it, it works. It doesn't work half the time.
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From the interview it is stated that revenues from China is very small compared to the US, so it's not going to really affect anything one way or another.
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Not nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Meh.
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On January 13 2010 10:40 sith wrote:
Maybe China will now realize that they are a bunch of fucking children and get with the rest of the free world. Jesus christ I'm fed up with this shit. "China executes tourists", "China bombs human rights activists families", blah blah blah that's all I hear about in the news about China. Grow up retards, at least pretend to act like a real country.
I think we can pinpoint this post as the exact moment the thread turned into a shitstorm
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