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QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
December 23 2009 21:17 GMT
#21
I downloaded the PDF file.. some of the words are misspelled (not sure if it's meant this way? I'm only on page 16) and these recollections of encounters/transporting are a bit hard to keep up on (and differentiating where the foot notes are, where the footnote is referring to in the text since there's no indication while reading until you REACH the footnote, in which you have to go back through that page to look for it). Should I wait to buy the book? =/ it's REALLY addicting but I hope the PDF file is exactly the same as the real book, just not separated by pages.
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 23 2009 21:25 GMT
#22
yea the PDF definitely has a lot of errors.

Also I'm listening and reading through the smuggler interview right now, and it's [audio version] skipping lots of questions. And then it's now skipped over like 3-4 countries descriptions.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 23 2009 23:30 GMT
#23
Those of you following the schedule about now you should be starting the third part, for which we have 4 days.

As for the pdf errors, this really sucks, but idk what to do about it. Apparently the book was released in a few different versions that are way off.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 23 2009 23:33 GMT
#24
No one is even discussing the book sections. I'm guessing everyone just gonna talk about it after it's done?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 23 2009 23:48 GMT
#25
OH shit I never did the little writeups that I promised.

Chapter 1: Introduction.

Just sets up the story about how my life got flipped turned...about how the war has been over for 10 years and what follows is basically interviews with people that survived linked together with data when it needs to be. The narrator is the person conducting the interviews.

Chapter 2: Warnings.

A Collection of interviews/personal statements from a host of characters about the beginnings of the outbreak.

Kwang Jingshu: A Chinese doctor that was called in for one of the first infections, before any civilians (him included) knew what it was. We learn that when he called his friend, a government doctor of some kind, his friend seemed to know something about the infection already, and then the government came and gathered up all the people in the village.

Nury Telavaldi: A smuggler of sorts that, when the outbreaks started, found work smuggling people in and out of tibet and across borders. Shows us how people in the early stages tried to deal with the problem and how the underworld smugglers may have facilitated the spread by moving people across borders that were supposed to be closed.

Stanley MacDonald: A Canadian soldier that was working in Kyrgystan when the outbreak reached there. He was the first person to encounter an infected in the area without dying because of it.

Fernando Oliveira: A South-American doctor that performed a transplant with an infected heart (was unknown to him at the time) and dealt with the transplant patient after he zombified and killed another doctor.

Jacob Nyathi: A guy that was in South Africa when the outbreak there started, was able to escape after killing a zombie, was shot by police and taken to a hospital where he overheard discussions between doctors where the doctors seemed to think the infection was a form of rabies.

Jurgen Warmbrunn: An Israeli intelligence agent of some sort that was one of the first to piece together what was going on from a myriad of UN reports and other documents. He and another man developed a plan to stop infection, the only country that followed the plan was Israel (at least as far as we know at the end of the chapter) and unfortunately that seems to have caused the start of a civil war in Israel.

Saladine Kader: A college professor who, at the time of the outbreak, was a teen in Palestine. His father moved them to Israel (against Saladine's will) when the infection started. Everyone suspected that it was an underhanded move by Israel in their never ending war, and not a legit protection against the outbreak. The chapter closes on the start of the civil war.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 23 2009 23:49 GMT
#26
On December 24 2009 08:33 CharlieMurphy wrote:
No one is even discussing the book sections. I'm guessing everyone just gonna talk about it after it's done?

I was assuming that was what would happen, but wanted the thread to be open the entire time incase people wanted to discuss it during and also just to help prod people into staying caught up.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 23:59:42
December 23 2009 23:59 GMT
#27
Also anybody else pick up on the anti-American sentiment in the 2nd chapter? I mean, it was quite subtle, so you might not have noticed. /sarcasm
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
December 24 2009 17:18 GMT
#28
On December 24 2009 08:59 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Also anybody else pick up on the anti-American sentiment in the 2nd chapter? I mean, it was quite subtle, so you might not have noticed. /sarcasm


definitely. i usually have a hard time recalling names and specifics about these short-handed interviews of multiple people.. but I DO remember reading a comment made by one of the people being interviewed that implied a bad example and saying something along the lines "we aren't like YOUR country" (YOUR country meaning the USA).
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 02:13:09
December 25 2009 01:54 GMT
#29
So...I read farther than the timeline and think I should ninja-edit my post. I thought what I had posted was within the first four chapters but I may be wrong after what QuoC said.

+ Show Spoiler [potential spoiler] +
I feel so cliche saying this but I'm really enjoying the social/political commentary that goes on throughout the book. My favorite being the Israelis and their instinct for survival after 2000 years of constant attack and goes somewhat like: "it's the job of the 10th agent to disagree if the first 9 all come to the same conclusion." Then there's the always looking for something deeper than the obvious motif. And the Americans getting tricked by the Chinese so they don't find out what the government is actually doing? So awesome because it can realistically happen.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
December 25 2009 02:09 GMT
#30
On December 25 2009 10:54 Dknight wrote:
I feel so cliche saying this but I'm really enjoying the social/political commentary that goes on throughout the book. My favorite being the Israelis and their instinct for survival after 2000 years of constant attack and goes somewhat like: "it's the job of the 10th agent to disagree if the first 9 all come to the same conclusion." Then there's the always looking for something deeper than the obvious motif. And the Americans getting tricked by the Chinese so they don't find out what the government is actually doing? So awesome because it can realistically happen.


you've exposed to me orgasmic matter in which I pre-ejaculated (meaning reading your post before reading further) and could not hold the temptation

can't wait for this shit. sounds very complex and interesting
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 02:15:41
December 25 2009 02:13 GMT
#31
Ugh. I hope it was because you're not caught up and not me by accidentally revealing what laid in the next two chapters. If it's the latter, I'm sorry!! =[


Also, for those who don't have the actual book. Just use your local library! That's what it's there for.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 25 2009 02:48 GMT
#32
No dk what you posted was fair game, that was chapter 3 iirc.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
December 25 2009 03:38 GMT
#33
just bought the book today will probably catch up by tomorrow or read it all haha
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 13:08:32
December 27 2009 12:50 GMT
#34
I'm halfway through it and I'm quite bored. Yeah sure every interview is really well made, the social/political/wartime context is really well depicted, there was a lot of sweat put into this book I won't deny it. But this mountain of information just doesn't interest me. It's like watching a good documentary but on a subject I really don't care about.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 28 2009 14:39 GMT
#35
DISCUSSION NOW OPEN FOR TURNING THE TIDE & HOMEFRONT USA
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 14:40:50
December 28 2009 14:40 GMT
#36
Yeah sorry christmas kicked my ass as far as having time for things. (also I lost my trophy )
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
December 29 2009 22:36 GMT
#37
God damn, somehow managed to miss that PM and forgot all about this

Gonna go get that book and read to page 200 tonight.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 31 2009 02:18 GMT
#38
DISCUSSION NOW OPEN FOR AROUND THE WORLD, AND ABOVE


Also, I forgot whether we were following the tl calendar or my home time, so I think we lost a day somewhere, anyways, we will open full book discussion 48 hours from this post.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36387 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 18:27:22
January 01 2010 18:26 GMT
#39
i finished this book in two days, i thought it was really great (thanks for the recommendation! i wouldve never known about it if not for this thread)

i think one of the biggest strengths was the authors creative use of language, i thought the US army perspectives calling them Zack and Gs were really cool. most zombie stories need this sort of grounding, because calling them zombies often takes you out of the reality of it. after a few dozen pages i quickly and easily forgot that it was a story with supernatural elements, because so many details and emotions from the characters were so realistic and grounded.

my favorite povs so far were the american ones, mainly the DesStRes and army grunt guys.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 02 2010 00:30 GMT
#40
Yeah just so everybody knows full book discussion is now open.

Also I agree with your assessments about the language making the book more believable. It reminds me a lot about how my favorite sci-fi authors always have weird slang that they introduce in order to pull you out of your world and into theirs.

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