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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 00:42:11
December 19 2009 07:43 GMT
#1
READ ENTIRE OP BEFORE POSTING; IF YOU BREAK THE RULES, I WILL BREAK YOUR ARMS!

Hopefully all those interested saw the blog where I started this, but if not you still have a few days before we will be finished with the first part, so no worries. (I hope)

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=106994

^^ Read this if you haven't already, says what this is all about.


FULL BOOK DISCUSSION NOW OPEN


FULL BOOK DISCUSSION NOW OPEN



SCHEDULE:

Part 1:
Chapters 1 & 2: Introduction & Warnings
Pages 1-44 (44 pages total)
Read 20th-21st, discussion on the 21st & 22nd.

Part 2:
Chapters 3 & 4: Blame & The Great Panic
Pages 45-104 (59 pages total)
Read 22nd-23rd, discussion on the 23rd & 24th.

Part 3:
Chapters 5 & 6: Turning the Tide & Home Front USA
Pages 105-186 (81 pages total)
Read 24th-27th, discussion on the 25th, 26th, 27th and 28th.

Part 4:
Chapter 7: Around the World, And Above
Pages 187-269 (82 pages total)
Read 28th-29th, discussion on the 29th & 30th.

Part 5:
Chapters 8 & 9: Total War & Good-byes
Pages 270-342 (72 pages total)
Read 30th-31st, discussion 31st till whenever.

We will be going by TL time (korean time), so I am technically posting this thread 8 hours early, but w/e.

RULES


1. Do not discuss anything beyond the parts in blue text at the top of the OP.

2. When you want to discuss something specific, use page numbers or something to tell us where to look.

3. DO NOT SPOIL OH MY GOD I WILL KILL YOU IF YOU SPOIL!

4. Discussion is open (I might post questions to seed discussion if it is going slow, feel free to do the same), only rule is don't talk about stuff the group hasn't read yet.

5. Seriously, don't spoil.





I will bump this every time we have a new section to read or discuss, and the red and blue text at the top of the OP will always be updated to the current sections being read/discussed, so you won't have to hunt through the thread if you fall behind to see where you should catch up to.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 23:04:23
December 20 2009 23:04 GMT
#2
DISCUSSION NOW OPEN FOR INTRODUCTIONS & WARNINGS
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 02:30:02
December 20 2009 23:43 GMT
#3
oh shit, forgot to DL this book. Will do now, import to ipod and read via road trip for xmas.
edit- no luck on demonoid
edit2- found pdf & mp3 audio versions on btjunkie

also from the blog
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2009 17:48 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 17:01 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
I just started reading this! you can get it for free googling "world war z free ebook"


Sweet tip thanks!



PS- It's only 338 pages, BOOK IT!
[image loading]
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 03:17:36
December 21 2009 03:14 GMT
#4
Wow, I just DL'd it and read intro + warnings, and for me, it's a book i just can't close. How can i keep myself from not reading the rest of the book before the 22nd?

The excruciatin detail + footnotes really make this immersive. The factual details such as israeli tanks having back doors, and the emotional aspect (human aspect that max brooks includes) really makes this a book filled with realism + zombies. Zombie realism.
C'est la vie...
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 21 2009 03:15 GMT
#5
If you finish early/read ahead, you can discuss whatever you want, just put it in spoiler tags with clear listings of what part is inside each spoiler.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
December 21 2009 04:38 GMT
#6
I'll get started on this tomorrow! Totally forgot about it until now =]
Entusman #12
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
December 21 2009 04:44 GMT
#7
Recommending the next book

http://www.amazon.com/Warded-Man-Peter-V-Brett/dp/0345503805

Peter V. Brett's "The warded man"

It's a debut book from a really amazing writer imo
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 05:53:12
December 21 2009 05:42 GMT
#8
This thread is not for recommendations, use the other thread for that, this thread is for wwz discussion only.

Edit: Not to sound like a dick, just that I don't want this thread derailed by the next book that everyone thinks we should read.

(Also, just fyi, if you don't participate in the discussion of this book, your suggestion for the next book will be ignored for obvious reasons.)
HyKe
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada13 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 05:44:29
December 21 2009 05:43 GMT
#9
On December 19 2009 17:48 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 17:01 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
I just started reading this! you can get it for free googling "world war z free ebook"


Sweet tip thanks!


I've heard the whole book in audio format and i'm pretty sure the link from google is just the audio book in written form. It's word for word for the first 3 chapters anyway, with nothing else that wasn't in the audio.

The full book i'm told is longer than the audio book version. They cut out quite a bit from what my work friend has told me.

So if you google it to read it, you'll probably not be getting the whole book. You'll be getting a transcription of the much shorter audio book.

Just a warning. If you're fine with that, go for it. I haven't read the book, but the audio book is really good, so if you're never planning on actually buying a copy, go for it. If you are planning on buying the book, you might get a better experience just waiting till then to read it.

Corruption of the youth, Annihilation of the rest
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
December 21 2009 09:11 GMT
#10
i accidentally read the whole book lol : ( was too good to stop, i don't remember where the first part ends, can we get a summary going? : ]
RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
December 21 2009 11:30 GMT
#11
On December 21 2009 18:11 jodogohoo wrote:
i accidentally read the whole book lol : ( was too good to stop, i don't remember where the first part ends, can we get a summary going? : ]

Yeh I bought the book with the intention of doing the book club, but I ended up finishing it in like 3 days . I then had a couple of days in a row where I woke up thinking that zombies were real, which was a scary yet awesome experience in itself. You know a book has effected you when you start critically evaluating your house's defensibility against zombies.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 21 2009 20:58 GMT
#12
Just for those of you following the schedule, we should now be reading Blame & The Great Panic, and we will open discussion for those parts tomorrow.

And to jodogohoo and RisingTide as soon as I finish the first 2 chapters (yeah, I know, I'm the guy running it, but shit came up, I'll be caught up tonight) I will post a little synopsis so you guys know what happened and therefore what you can discuss if you want.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 21 2009 20:58 GMT
#13
On December 21 2009 20:30 RisingTide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2009 18:11 jodogohoo wrote:
i accidentally read the whole book lol : ( was too good to stop, i don't remember where the first part ends, can we get a summary going? : ]

You know a book has effected you when you start critically evaluating your house's defensibility against zombies.

Stephen King's 'Cell' actually did that to me

hopefully this one does too.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
December 21 2009 21:06 GMT
#14
Thanks Lemonwalrus.
Yeah RisingTide, I ended up looking at what i could use to fend off zombies, but all i had was a guitar hero controller.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 23:26:23
December 21 2009 23:25 GMT
#15
I'd like to start by saying that I've read this book a couple of times now, and I have also listened to the audiobook. The audiobook is abridged. Accounts had to be cut, and I think that the choices made on the chopping block were good. Some of my favorite parts were eliminated though, and I would recommend reading the full version because of that. Regardless, the audiobook is a work of brilliance, with very top notch voice acting from the likes of Mark Hamill, Henry Rollins, and Alan Alda.

I think that these first few accounts are why the book is so compelling and why most people I know read it in one go. Obviously it lays the groundwork for how the infection started and spread. It makes you think about how our level of globalization would facilitate the rapid spread of a zombie apocalypse, from human trafficking to organ donations. In approaching the idea of zombie holocaust in such a deliberate and well-considered manner, Brooks also indicates to the reader that his account will be comprehensive, considering many facets of modern life and how they will affect, and be changed by, the events that are to follow.

The greatest thing about the opening interviews is that they foreshadow a great deal. These are all post-war accounts, told from changed or defended locations, and with the hindsight that a survivor would possess. I love how earnest the characters are, revealing their faults at the time of the outbreak from the perspective of several hard years afterward. This cements the idea that it is an historical account, which is a great asset to the story because it gives it (admittedly transparent) credibility. It also keeps you turning the pages furiously, because that's just what well-executed foreshadowing does.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
December 22 2009 07:50 GMT
#16
I definitely agree man, the realism in this book is top notch.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
December 23 2009 00:31 GMT
#17
DISCUSSION OPEN FOR BLAME & THE GREAT PANIC


and little writeups for fist 2 chapters incoming just a little more tiiiiiiiiiiiiime
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 18:44:49
December 23 2009 18:42 GMT
#18
On December 21 2009 14:43 HyKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 17:48 meeple wrote:
On December 19 2009 17:01 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
I just started reading this! you can get it for free googling "world war z free ebook"


Sweet tip thanks!


I've heard the whole book in audio format and i'm pretty sure the link from google is just the audio book in written form. It's word for word for the first 3 chapters anyway, with nothing else that wasn't in the audio.

The full book i'm told is longer than the audio book version. They cut out quite a bit from what my work friend has told me.

So if you google it to read it, you'll probably not be getting the whole book. You'll be getting a transcription of the much shorter audio book.

Just a warning. If you're fine with that, go for it. I haven't read the book, but the audio book is really good, so if you're never planning on actually buying a copy, go for it. If you are planning on buying the book, you might get a better experience just waiting till then to read it.




I DLed the audio book and the PDF book and converted it a few times (text/jpg to consumable chunks) to fit into ipod notes so I could read along with the audio. The conversion seems to leave out some punctuation and/or the audio script is altered from the text. Some words are changed or rearranged, and It kind of makes it harder to follow along.

The audio book reads like some kind of radio play which is cool, but it goes too slow. I keep finding myself a half a page ahead of the audio.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 23 2009 20:44 GMT
#19
btw, when does the first 44 pages/chapter 2 end? This coversion didn't make actual page numbers and I don't know if the audio book tells me.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
December 23 2009 21:04 GMT
#20
Reading while listening to the same txt ? Its ridicilously slow and bad if u ever want to read faster. More over, usually makes u understand less than those who are used to read faster or speed read.
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