Drinking and Driving. - Page 4

On November 02 2009 07:14 StalkerSC wrote:
I walk home from parties.. That way if i get hit by a truck its not my fault

On November 02 2009 00:55 fanatacist wrote:
Oooh boy this thread is a ticking time bomb. I am going to stay out of this one.

On November 02 2009 09:30 Ronald_McD wrote:
My exgirlfriend used to do this all the time. What a dumb bitch.

It's generally a pretty shitty idea lol. It never bothered me so much before but now I see how much it screws people's lives up

On November 01 2009 09:43 DeathSpank wrote:
no I would never drink and drive. I need to stay sober to perform the sweet drifts and high speed maneuvers that I do while driving through my neighborhood. Tonight is going to be a nice night for a drive. I am going to try and break 90 on this one street that's right by my old elementary school. I even think they're having a halloween party tonight there too. It's going to be sweet.

On November 02 2009 10:25 GreEny K wrote:



Yeah lets go speeding down a street during Halloween, good idea with all the kids running around. Some people amaze me.

On November 02 2009 11:21 Wangsta wrote:
AFAIK, the argument is that there is a difference between a guy who gets a little tipsy and drives, versus the guy who gets smashed and drives

If you look a things from a practical point of view, there's a huge difference, because the guy who is more drunk is much more likely to have an accident

But morally, both of those people are fucked up. If you drive drunk, you are basically saying "I don't care if I am increasing my likelihood of killing someone, because it's still unlikely to happen." If you think like that, you simply aren't being a responsible person.

On November 02 2009 12:09 lMPERVlOUS wrote:


What if I had a lower chance of killing someone while driving after 2 beers than my ex gf while sober? Would it really be morally wrong for me to drive with 2 beers in me, or would it be morally wrong for me to let my ex drive at any given time?

Food for thought.

On November 02 2009 12:00 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
what about driving between sips?

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On November 02 2009 12:31 eMbrace wrote:


I think it's morally wrong to willingly reduce your skill at driving and then get into a vehicle.

Comparing yourself to a terrible sober driver is irrelevant. That is a problem related to terrible driving schools and license requirements -- not your personal decisions.

On November 02 2009 14:28 lMPERVlOUS wrote:


You reduce your skill at driving when you get behind the wheel while you are tired. Or on ANY DRUG (legal or not). If you are driving without sunglasses when it is bright out, or there is a lot of glare. If you are distracted by anything (passengers, music, cellphone, etc). Heck, your skill at driving is reduced if you don't have 2 hands on the wheel at all times. Why is a little bit of alcohol different? The only thing I could think of is that it is a prejudice against alcohol. Which I can completely understand, however, it doesn't work well in a logical debate.....

And I'm not going to comment on the licensing requirements, other than to say that every country has dumb drivers. But the fact is, they are deemed to be safe enough drivers to get a license. And if I was still a safer driver than them, with a few beers in me, why should I be in trouble, if that is an acceptable skill level for a driver?

I agree, driving and drinking do not mix. If you are going to do it, you need to be smart about it. As in, you need to drink little, and early, and let yourself burn it off by the time you need to drive. But I also think you shouldn't be allowed to drive tired, nor have any distractions (I used to take my mom's cellphone away from her while she was driving and I was a passenger, and I still always ask her if she's driving while on the phone with me. She's learned to lie, so as soon as I hear some traffic or something, I hang up and wait for her to call me back 10 minutes later).

But, from a logical point of view, drinking and driving = wrong holds no water at all. Not to say that it is a smart choice, but saying that it is wrong, without considering other factors is just dumb. That's like saying "bubblegum killed someone, so therefore it should be banned"..... Sure, it happens, and the more bubblegum you eat, the bigger the chance that it will kill you. But that's just a dumb conclusion, and without considering all of the facts, it's misleading.

On November 02 2009 14:56 Wangsta wrote:


The reason why alcohol needs to be treated differently than the other things you mentioned, is because alcohol can affect your judgment. It's very easy to say "I'm not drunk," when in truth you might be more tipsy than you realize. I've also known quite a few people who had really bad experiences because they felt "okay" and got in their car, but then realized that they were not okay once they were on the road and had no choice but to keep driving.

The problem with saying "smart drunk driving is fine" is that you'll have the idea in your head that drunk driving is okay under some circumstances. That's fine 99% of the time, but it's very possible that you could get smashed one day and that small thought in the back of your head will lead you to drive when you are NOT okay. If you just tell yourself that drunk driving is always bad, then you'll never have to take that risk.

It also prevents you from making potentially stupid decisions, such as saying "I won't drink too much at the party tonight, I'm only going to get a little buzzed, so it's okay to go without a DD"