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Thratur
Canada917 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On October 28 2009 04:13 EscPlan9 wrote: I'm already a vegetarian, and have been for nearly 10 years now (I'm almost 26 years old). A few comments... I agree with Lucktar's comments regarding the hostility and spite towards vegetarians. I've never actually met a preachy vegetarian or vegan in my life, yet that's the stereotype. My family, friends, and even fiancee eat meat, and I don't ever talk down to them or judge them for it. Also LOL @ Blackjack "I'll give it up for 30 days". If you really cared about the causes here, I would hope you would make a more rational goal to help out. It's like people who believe "I won't buy gas this week" will help lower gas prices and reduce dependency on oil. A more reasonable goal would be something like researching how to best incorporate a vegetarian diet for a few days, gradually eating more vegetarian meals throughout the week, and within the month, either entirely or almost entirely giving up meat for the rest of your life. edit: Also regarding vegetarianism "making you skinny", that's not true. What often is the case is before one adopts a vegetarian diet, they take a lot of time to research nutritional requirements and how to acquire them with the new diet they are adopting. Basically, they become more health conscious as a result. I know it definitely was the case for me, and I've heard similar cases with other vegetarians I know. I still eat some junk food, but overall I eat a healthy diet. OK, definition of preachy vegetarianism: starting/contributing to a thread in order to convert the people that misguidedly go on with their (normative) way of life into a way of life that is better for every single human, and that if everyone did this the world would be better. You know, replace "vegetarianism" with "Christianity" and let's see you argue with that definition. Religious preachers also don't think of it as being preachy but rather as an honest-to-God attempt to help people bring heavenly glory into your heart. You start with saying you never met a preachy vegetarian - news flash, you are one. Proof: after that opening, you continue by immediately belittling Blackjack's contribution because it's not a permanent solution, point out the flaws in his idea, and then preach about how things are done right. You know, your way. With that attitude, Blackjack should double his meat intake out of spite instead of stopping for 30 days. Just so he can say "way to go, dumbass - this is on you" every meal. You manage to be so condescending, throwing in the occasional "I'm just like everyone else" comment, while flailing around explanations for the superiority of your way and your people. We don't want to hear it. So yeah. There's hostility. But in a thread like this "vegetarianism pledge", which for us normal people is about the same as a "Purity Ring Support" or "Jesus Loves You" or whatever, it's justified. This is the last time I'll give this thread the respect of bumping it. Because trolling us like this in order to catch the eyes of a percentage is cheap religious theatrics. That's right. Preachy as it gets. You want to tell me I'm wrong? Let's see you do it in a PM, because I will not add one more thing to this thread. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
I start feeling really bad if I'm without at least one large good piece of meat per day. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On October 28 2009 07:20 Traveler wrote: For anyone that is interested, there are other reasons not to eat meat, or more specifically Animal Protein, and book called "The China Study" was published after a massive study linking the consumption of animal proteins to much higher cancer rates. I will take my chances. No seriously I will... you only live once and sacrificing delicious meat and Brazilian Steakhouses just isn't worth it. Not only do I still eat a healthy diet but it's delicious at the same time. There is also the compounding fact that my profession generally forces me to run and stay in shape... something that I can't really do while being a vegetarian. You can tell me to take supplements all you want but they just aren't as good as primary source. 6'5 205 lbs is hard to fuel with plants. If I'm at a higher rate for cancer (I can't imagine really that it's as MUCH HIGHER as you imply) fine... I'll be eating this cheeseburger with a smile on my face. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
It's like drinking pop. I told myself one day that I'd never drink pop again, and I was fine with it for a long time. One day I drank some by accident and I felt kind of down, like I lost. And why? Because I drank some carbonized sugar water that actually had less calories than the cookie I ate a minute ago? It's stupid. And so now if I'm out and want something tasty with a special meal, I may get a tasty choice of pop as opposed to water. I still drink mostly water, but the pop does not hurt me in any way if I keep track of it. This is why many vegetarians annoy me just by being vegetarian. Because even if they don't express it, you just assume they have this condescending look on meat eating. I looked down on people every time I saw them order pop -- I never confronted them, I just felt superior, healthier. If you can drink pop, eat meat, or whatever and still be healthy (which is sooooo easy), then why give up on such a great variety of dishes? i guess I can manage my diet across many different levels, while some have to just focus on one. so now I feel superior again -- sweet. | ||
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s_side
United States700 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On October 28 2009 08:02 Jayme wrote: I will take my chances. No seriously I will... you only live once and sacrificing delicious meat and Brazilian Steakhouses just isn't worth it. Not only do I still eat a healthy diet but it's delicious at the same time. There is also the compounding fact that my profession generally forces me to run and stay in shape... something that I can't really do while being a vegetarian. You can tell me to take supplements all you want but they just aren't as good as primary source. 6'5 205 lbs is hard to fuel with plants. If I'm at a higher rate for cancer (I can't imagine really that it's as MUCH HIGHER as you imply) fine... I'll be eating this cheeseburger with a smile on my face. do you know anything about being vegetarian? it's not hard to keep fueled on plants. Even being 205 lbs. I'm not suggesting you convert. I eat meat almost every meal and have no intentions of stopping - not for a day, let alone a month - but c'mon you're talking out of your ass. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
That being said, the facts are in on vegetarianism. Our current process' for raising animals is extremely detrimental to the environment. A healthy whole foods vegan diet takes little to no effort in planning and is completely healthy(this being said, it does take more effort cooking. As would any whole foods diet). Morals, ethics and animal welfare arguments are important for an individual, but irrelevant as an argument. If you would like references, I recommend reading the vegetarianism article on wiki for a start. As an aside, ANY reduction, be it for a month or a day, in meat consumption, or travel, or whatever, is a step in the right direction. Every little bit helps, by definition. Disclamer: I was vegan for four years, purely due to environmental concerns. I now eat meat as of 1 month ago, and will likely continue eating meat. | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
I recently got alot of money for my extra work, and I'm happy to tell you that I'll be spending it on extra meat this coming month, and I'll be thinking about this thread while I do it. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:20 Catch]22 wrote: seems like this thread has a great lack of the fact that there isnt enough room on earth to sustain 6 billion vegetarians, but you're right, fuck those poor chinese and africans for eating meat, they are destroying the environment!1111oneretard I recently got alot of money for my extra work, and I'm happy to tell you that I'll be spending it on extra meat this coming month, and I'll be thinking about this thread while I do it. Are you daft? | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On October 28 2009 08:22 eMbrace wrote: I just don't understand why you have to give it up completely like most vegetarians choose to do. It's like drinking pop. I told myself one day that I'd never drink pop again, and I was fine with it for a long time. One day I drank some by accident and I felt kind of down, like I lost. And why? Because I drank some carbonized sugar water that actually had less calories than the cookie I ate a minute ago? It's stupid. And so now if I'm out and want something tasty with a special meal, I may get a tasty choice of pop as opposed to water. I still drink mostly water, but the pop does not hurt me in any way if I keep track of it. This is why many vegetarians annoy me just by being vegetarian. Because even if they don't express it, you just assume they have this condescending look on meat eating. I looked down on people every time I saw them order pop -- I never confronted them, I just felt superior, healthier. If you can drink pop, eat meat, or whatever and still be healthy (which is sooooo easy), then why give up on such a great variety of dishes? i guess I can manage my diet across many different levels, while some have to just focus on one. so now I feel superior again -- sweet. just cuz you quit pop and are a douchebag, doesn't mean vegs are. i'm sure there are lots of things in life you don't understand -- maybe you can chalk 'personal dietary decisions' up to another one of those | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On October 28 2009 09:24 CTStalker wrote: just cuz you quit pop and are a douchebag, doesn't mean vegs are. i'm sure there are lots of things in life you don't understand -- maybe you can chalk 'personal dietary decisions' up to another one of those insults hurt  | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On October 28 2009 08:38 Mora wrote: do you know anything about being vegetarian? it's not hard to keep fueled on plants. Even being 205 lbs. I'm not suggesting you convert. I eat meat almost every meal and have no intentions of stopping - not for a day, let alone a month - but c'mon you're talking out of your ass. I know plenty about what you consume eating vegetables and tofu and in general non meat products. I could not retain the muscle mass/strength I have now with a vegetarian diet unless I eat like pounds of god damn legumes/tofu/beans which mostly taste like crap anyway. Unfortunately I don't sit on my ass all day. I work out roughly 5 times a week and my job generally makes me chase down people who don't want to go to jail that day. I like to be in shape and take it seriously. Could I keep myself at my current weight/mass with a vegetarian diet? Sure... if I wanted to spend about 5x more than I do now for food. | ||
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Lysis
United States147 Posts
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ReaverDrop!
Canada81 Posts
On October 28 2009 08:12 Mykill wrote: fuck vegitarians. agreed. | ||
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CommanderFluffy
Taiwan1059 Posts
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