On October 27 2009 21:35 Amber[LighT] wrote: Lol BlackJack... giving up meat for one month is such a stupid thing to do. That's like saying you want to prevent global warming, but you only want to do it for 30 days....
one month out of each year. We're all supposed to be making cutbacks, it's not a "do all that we can or do nothing" policy
My point is if you're going to go ahead and be vegetarian for a month, why not do it all year long? Studies show it's actually healthier to be a vegetarian if you do it correctly, and based upon your history on this site and other BW sites you seem like a smart enough guy to figure this stuff out without much trouble .
EDIT: I should stress that though I advocate everyone being vegetarian for the greater good of humanity blah blah blah... I am not a vegetarian myself.
Well technically when you eat veggies you consume more energy then meat, but we were brought up on meat and people will never change. Meat is important as freedom to us.
I've been a vegetarian (lacto-ovo) since ~May 20th. It's actually very easy to do. But thanks for joining! Hopefully everyone also realizes there are many more compelling reasons to become a vegetarian besides environmental issues such as global warming. There are ethical issues with the treatment and killing of animals, and if you want to combat world hunger, vegetarian diets is the best way to go (even wikipedia will have good statistics; the USDA has estimated that 90% of soy, 80% of corn, 70% of wheat, and even half the water supply are used just to feed animal livestocks. It's incredibly inefficient to raise livestock).
As for vegetarians being skinny, that's probably true. I've always been very skinny, but being a vegetarian has not made me lose any weight.
On October 27 2009 22:10 Velr wrote: I'll probably never become vegetarian.
Reason 1: I like meat to much.
Reason 2: Cooking good Vegetarian meals is pretty hard.
Reason 3: Vegetarian meals taste like shit, and unless you're a dietary expert you can't eat healthily.
Thats just not true. I love meat but a really good vegetarian dish is still really good.
B12 and Iron are problems for some people but thats about it. It probably tastes like shit if you eat it in a way were you lack many vitamins and other stuff tho .
I am suprised so many people are mentioning that you will become skinny....first of all its not true..second of all, i bet for some of you it wouldnt be such a bad thing.
I personally made the switch like 5months ago..at first it was hard..for like a week. I didnt know what to put on my sandwich and stuff,but now it comes naturally. I still eat fish though..
I think most vegetarian meals tast great..there not that hard to make and they got me thinking alot more about what I eat in general..the result....
Iron is rarely a problem for adult men, you only need something like 8-9mg which if you have wholemeal bread and some dried apricots or cashews you are like 95% of the way there - and that is before leafy greens. Also in eating more vitamin-rich vegetable-based meals means you should have adequate amounts of other vitamins required in the absorbption of other nutrients like vitamin C.
Just have to manage your diet well and once you learn what you should or shouldn't eat, can and can't eat, what you need lots of, etc. it's really surprisingly easy and satisfying.
Global Warming (Climate Change?!) bogeyman! Boo! Because all our doctored models predict unmitigated disaster! Be afraid! Be very afraid!
That said vegetarianism isn't such a bad idea especially when grain prices are expected to rise sharply over the next few years. As long as food gets expensive, people will naturally turn to plants for their food. Hell maybe, we'll even put the domesticate cow on the endangered species list! Ha!
What about eating fish? I don't think fishermen pollute the environment by throwing their nets out to the sea. Besides, fish are stupid and they have no feelings so that's that for the animal defenders. Not to mention fish tastes delicious!
Not eating meat is like telling ants not to eat other insects; besides being a pretty weird hit on their nutrition, the number of flies, grasshoppers, etc. are still the same lol.
Blood-Sausage, Liver Sausage, Ham, Bacon... Pork-Ear/Feet (not on picture but looked exactly like just cutted of a living pork and then cooked).. Felt *true* :p
On October 27 2009 21:23 CTStalker wrote: you don't need to eat any weird supplements to maintain a healthy vegetarian diet. the biggest things you lose from meat are protein and iron, both of which you can get from legumes, lentils, spinach, tofu, etc. there's lots of options
It's not true for everyoneeee... I'm borderline anemic and my doctor told me that I HAVE to start eating beef else I hafto start taking supplements cause vegetables and legumes have a different type of iron absorption that is less effective... .___.
On October 27 2009 21:07 BlackJack wrote: An interview came out today with a global warming chief urging people to give up meat in order to save the planet.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating became unacceptable.
Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide as a global warming gas and livestock production (cows, pigs, chickens) is responsible for over 1/3rd of methane emissions. A joke that has been circulating is that it is better to eat a salad in a gas guzzling SUV than to eat a burger in a hybrid.
This is ridiculous. And you know of course, that humans, their industries and activities emit less "greenhouse effect" gases in a year, than animals, forests, seas and other "natural" things do over the course of one day. You do know that?
Edit: An interesting read on the importance of balance in the environment. http://wiki.amee.com/index.php/Carbon_dioxide_emissions It's the same with methane and everything else. Except that we're not gonna eat animals that have been dead for thousands of years, are we?
On October 27 2009 21:07 BlackJack wrote: An interview came out today with a global warming chief urging people to give up meat in order to save the planet.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating became unacceptable.
Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide as a global warming gas and livestock production (cows, pigs, chickens) is responsible for over 1/3rd of methane emissions. A joke that has been circulating is that it is better to eat a salad in a gas guzzling SUV than to eat a burger in a hybrid.
This is ridiculous. And you know of course, that humans, their industries and activities emit less "greenhouse effect" gases in a year, than animals, forests, seas and other "natural" things do over the course of one day. You do know that?
Exactly, the plan is clearly to STOP killing animals so they can reproduce and clog the planet with more greenhouse gasses.
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