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inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
November 04 2009 18:37 GMT
#281
I simply can't eat many things if there isn't at least a little meat in it. Never been a fan of salads, stir frys, or anything like that..

about all I will eat is italian food, pasta, pizza/etc
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 04 2009 19:53 GMT
#282
A lot of the methane actually comes from livestock being fed inferior feed. It's like feeding humans a bean diet. That's a lot of farting.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
November 04 2009 20:06 GMT
#283
I've actually been seriously considering this recently. Now I have some more incentive, I suppose? I'll try it out for a month. See what happens.
But I might miss meat =(, it's so good! I have nothing against eating meat morally, so that is probably incentive against making the switch.
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
November 04 2009 20:25 GMT
#284
On November 04 2009 09:34 Element)LoGiC wrote:
I can't wait for everyone to realize that all the stupid "green" things they've been doing all account for nothing. You all ASSUME that co2, methane, monoxide, etc, are culprits of global warming. What you don't seem to understand that 1998 was hotter than it was today. The larger Ice bodies are actually thickening, like the arctic.

You can do whatever makes you feel smarter than everyone else, but don't push it on other people. Don't kid yourself, all these things you're doing are just meaningless hobbies.

Maybe you people should research on sites that aren't funded by someone standing to gain from these "green" achievements. CO2 = fucking plants. We could multiply our co2 emissions by 30, and even the most delicate of plants would survive.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/10/08/the-ups-and-downs-of-methane/


holy crap your dumb.. could you be any more uninformed??
a.k.a reLapSe ---
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 04 2009 20:34 GMT
#285
On November 04 2009 15:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I have no problem with Vegetarians its the ones who refuse to drink milk or eat anything associated with milk products which is stupid IMO. Last time I checked milking a cow didn't kill the cow.

Vegans are too extreme. They limit their diet waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
November 04 2009 20:36 GMT
#286
On November 04 2009 15:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I have no problem with Vegetarians its the ones who refuse to drink milk or eat anything associated with milk products which is stupid IMO. Last time I checked milking a cow didn't kill the cow.

Anyone who is vegetarian for ethical reasons should also be vegan. Life as a milking cow, or as a chicken laying eggs is absolutely terrible.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 04 2009 20:39 GMT
#287
On November 04 2009 10:53 SonuvBob wrote:
Got any photos of the damage farming does to the land and ecosystem? SOY IS MURDER


New research has shown that various north american deserts are the result of maize and foodstuff farming by the nazcas, who by using irrigation basically raped their soil and then fell into huge civil wars over the few remaining scarce resources.

Corn is murder.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 04 2009 21:16 GMT
#288
I find it irritating how self righteous most meat lovers argue here. As someone that eats the occasional steak myself I can't believe that you're all that ignorant.

Noone is asking you to become a vegetarian.
Noone is asking you to become a vegan.
Noone is saying that eating meat is a terrible crime.

Ridiculing the idea of eating less meat to save your own climate makes you just look stupid.

Besides- since I try to eat less meat, I actually enjoy it more. Like the sunday roast- tastes better when you don't have it every day.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10666 Posts
November 05 2009 05:24 GMT
#289
thinking eating less meat actually has a significant impact on climate makes YOU look stupid.

Also veggies are the proof that god doesnt exist, or he does but he is a sadist fuck... seriously, make celery taste like bacon and we would all be skinny.
Im back, in pog form!
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
November 05 2009 05:36 GMT
#290
On November 05 2009 06:16 Monsen wrote:
I find it irritating how self righteous most meat lovers argue here. As someone that eats the occasional steak myself I can't believe that you're all that ignorant.

Noone is asking you to become a vegetarian.
Noone is asking you to become a vegan.
Noone is saying that eating meat is a terrible crime.

Ridiculing the idea of eating less meat to save your own climate makes you just look stupid.

Besides- since I try to eat less meat, I actually enjoy it more. Like the sunday roast- tastes better when you don't have it every day.

china has a higher per capita consumption of pork than the US
1.4 billion vs 300 million
you do the math
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-05 05:55:43
November 05 2009 05:54 GMT
#291
On November 05 2009 14:24 baal wrote:
thinking eating less meat actually has a significant impact on climate makes YOU look stupid.


Using this kind of logic you can murder anyone and think it's fine as long as you don't feel that the damage done there is 'significant' enough
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 05 2009 09:45 GMT
#292
On November 05 2009 14:36 PobTheCad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2009 06:16 Monsen wrote:
I find it irritating how self righteous most meat lovers argue here. As someone that eats the occasional steak myself I can't believe that you're all that ignorant.

Noone is asking you to become a vegetarian.
Noone is asking you to become a vegan.
Noone is saying that eating meat is a terrible crime.

Ridiculing the idea of eating less meat to save your own climate makes you just look stupid.

Besides- since I try to eat less meat, I actually enjoy it more. Like the sunday roast- tastes better when you don't have it every day.

china has a higher per capita consumption of pork than the US
1.4 billion vs 300 million
you do the math


Doesn't address my point whatsoever.

"THE CHINESE ARE EVEN WORSE!" Isn't much of an argument.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 05 2009 09:47 GMT
#293
On November 05 2009 14:24 baal wrote:
thinking eating less meat actually has a significant impact on climate makes YOU look stupid.

Also veggies are the proof that god doesnt exist, or he does but he is a sadist fuck... seriously, make celery taste like bacon and we would all be skinny.


I don't know why I bother to reply to a known troll, but there-

Lifestock breeding is responsible for the largest amout of greenhous gases. Thus it's directly responsible for climate change. Uninformed much?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
November 05 2009 09:51 GMT
#294
Compare the US to western Europe and Scandinavia, if you really have to compare.

That comparison actually makes sense because the avg. living standarts are much more similar.
Element)LoGiC
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada1143 Posts
November 05 2009 09:54 GMT
#295
On November 05 2009 05:25 stk01001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2009 09:34 Element)LoGiC wrote:
I can't wait for everyone to realize that all the stupid "green" things they've been doing all account for nothing. You all ASSUME that co2, methane, monoxide, etc, are culprits of global warming. What you don't seem to understand that 1998 was hotter than it was today. The larger Ice bodies are actually thickening, like the arctic.

You can do whatever makes you feel smarter than everyone else, but don't push it on other people. Don't kid yourself, all these things you're doing are just meaningless hobbies.

Maybe you people should research on sites that aren't funded by someone standing to gain from these "green" achievements. CO2 = fucking plants. We could multiply our co2 emissions by 30, and even the most delicate of plants would survive.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/10/08/the-ups-and-downs-of-methane/


holy crap your dumb.. could you be any more uninformed??


Could you elaborate on what I'm misinformed on?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
November 05 2009 10:34 GMT
#296
On November 05 2009 18:54 Element)LoGiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2009 05:25 stk01001 wrote:
On November 04 2009 09:34 Element)LoGiC wrote:
I can't wait for everyone to realize that all the stupid "green" things they've been doing all account for nothing. You all ASSUME that co2, methane, monoxide, etc, are culprits of global warming. What you don't seem to understand that 1998 was hotter than it was today. The larger Ice bodies are actually thickening, like the arctic.

You can do whatever makes you feel smarter than everyone else, but don't push it on other people. Don't kid yourself, all these things you're doing are just meaningless hobbies.

Maybe you people should research on sites that aren't funded by someone standing to gain from these "green" achievements. CO2 = fucking plants. We could multiply our co2 emissions by 30, and even the most delicate of plants would survive.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/10/08/the-ups-and-downs-of-methane/


holy crap your dumb.. could you be any more uninformed??


Could you elaborate on what I'm misinformed on?


You're misinformed because the climatologists who run the blog you cite are sponsored by large anonymous (power) companies with a vested interest in maintaining scientific doubt about the impact of global warming. And yes, 'holy crap you're dumb'.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
November 05 2009 10:39 GMT
#297
What is all the fuss about? There is no such thing as a "true" "right" or "wrong" and, thus, eating meat may be "murder" but it's not "wrong."

And, of course, that means murder, incest, rape, etc. etc. are not "wrong" either.

The closest thing to "right" is being the strongest. What is implicit in the vegetarian view -- and this is most clear with the production and distribution of bloody slaughter house videos -- is that pain is an argument against reality.

This underlying premise serves as the foundation of statements like "you wouldn't like that (that = being slaughtered) if you were that animal would you?"

But that is just to say "it sure would suck to be at the mercy of forces infinitely stronger than you." I don't know of any living thing that wouldn't agree (and for those without the conceptual faculty, implicitly agree [as is demonstrated by writhing pigs etc]).

So the upshot of the story is "be strong."*** And the vegetarian response to that lesson is "I'm weak."

If you are interested in the philosophic culmination of the vegetarian attitude, check out Schopenhauer -- his conclusion is that it would be better if there was nothing -- if the universe did not exist. The answer to this view is found in Nietzsche -- and his basic argument against Schopenhauer is that it is silly (and ALWAYS a indication of weakness) to use a fantasy (morality) to judge reality.

***:Note: what genuine strength consists of is not defined here
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
Element)LoGiC
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada1143 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-05 11:10:36
November 05 2009 11:07 GMT
#298
On November 05 2009 19:34 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2009 18:54 Element)LoGiC wrote:
On November 05 2009 05:25 stk01001 wrote:
On November 04 2009 09:34 Element)LoGiC wrote:
I can't wait for everyone to realize that all the stupid "green" things they've been doing all account for nothing. You all ASSUME that co2, methane, monoxide, etc, are culprits of global warming. What you don't seem to understand that 1998 was hotter than it was today. The larger Ice bodies are actually thickening, like the arctic.

You can do whatever makes you feel smarter than everyone else, but don't push it on other people. Don't kid yourself, all these things you're doing are just meaningless hobbies.

Maybe you people should research on sites that aren't funded by someone standing to gain from these "green" achievements. CO2 = fucking plants. We could multiply our co2 emissions by 30, and even the most delicate of plants would survive.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/10/08/the-ups-and-downs-of-methane/


holy crap your dumb.. could you be any more uninformed??


Could you elaborate on what I'm misinformed on?


You're misinformed because the climatologists who run the blog you cite are sponsored by large anonymous (power) companies with a vested interest in maintaining scientific doubt about the impact of global warming. And yes, 'holy crap you're dumb'.


No need to call me dumb for having a different opinion. There's still a large dispute about everything. It's far from settled.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 19:47:34
November 12 2009 19:44 GMT
#299
On November 05 2009 14:24 baal wrote:
thinking eating less meat actually has a significant impact on climate makes YOU look stupid.

Also veggies are the proof that god doesnt exist, or he does but he is a sadist fuck... seriously, make celery taste like bacon and we would all be skinny.

It CAN be done... We HAVE the technology! Genetic engineering is the future... We will become the Gods of the new world! The world of celery that tastes like bacon!!!

I don't know of any living thing that wouldn't agree (and for those without the conceptual faculty, implicitly agree [as is demonstrated by writhing pigs etc]).

You're anthropomorphizing. Animals are not sentient.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
November 12 2009 19:49 GMT
#300
how did vegetarianism turn into global warming?

i missed that transition.
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