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On September 08 2009 03:05 Snet wrote:
Certainly it's absurd to let yourself go like that, but it doesn't make him some kind of freak. Just hearing the way he interacts with his parents and the doctors, he's extremely sweet and polite.
People don't understand that you don't just suddenly become that fat. It happens over a long process and it can happen so slow that you don't realize how big you've gotten until someone points it out to you. It's like meeting up with someone you haven't seen in a few years, they will be like "oh you look soooo different", wtf I thought I looked the same?
After a certain amount of time it is so easy to get the idea that, "it's too late, I'm already 400lbs +, I will never be skinny again... why even try?" And that's how they build up to 600-800 and when they realize they will soon no longer be able to walk or move is when they do drastic things like these surgeries.
I believe it is the parents fault. It is your job to raise your child so that he/she has an understanding of the world and will be able to take care of themselves. This man was most likely exposed to unhealthy eating the second he came into this world - he never knew any better. Now he is old enough to think for himself and he's thinking, "My god... what have I done to my body?"
Even the healthy food he eats is destroyed by toppings. "My son likes healthy food too, like brocoli, but only if it has cheese on top... everyone loves cheese!" I bet his salads are covered in bacon bits, eggs, turkey and ham diced up, drenched in dressing, and with enough croutons to be its own meal.
The real travesty here is parents bringing children in to this world when they can't even take care of themselves. Then they refuse to listen to the advice of others. The mother even said "People ask me why I spoil him with food like I do, I just tell them its love. I love him" Just absolutely disgusting.
I could not agree more. My wife and I share alot of your views. Its insane the way kids are raised or the lack any parental supervision. Unfortunately most adult parents have little to no clue about proper healthy eating or portion size let alone the mass of children that have children. In many cases ONE large smoothie or hamburger or whatever has enough calories for an entire day. Not only that but even the "health" food put into your local grocers are full of chemicals, preservatives, and flavorings, shit we even engeinerr stuff so its more bright,colorful, and even tastes different.
Of course I base my feelings off of what I see here in my small part of the world. It may be diffrent where you live but in general us USA people are not well educated on health issues.
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yeah its a pretty brutal show. I was watching it last night and when his mom made him a roast beef sandwhich, it was huge. he also said "go easy on the mustard" and she still dumps like half a container of mustard on the thing.
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On September 08 2009 03:29 TransfuSe wrote:
yeah its a pretty brutal show. I was watching it last night and when his mom made him a roast beef sandwhich, it was huge. he also said "go easy on the mustard" and she still dumps like half a container of mustard on the thing.
maybe that is going easy lol
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On September 08 2009 02:18 Mah Buckit! wrote:
Wow! Think of that kids potential, as in energy (mgh).
You know I think taxing can diminish the amount of obese people. Since taxing of sweets was removed in Finland the consumption has doubled. Now the taxes are coming back but they could raise taxes on other fatty foods too IMO.
Actually that Stan Dorn has pretty neat idea, to raise taxes on things that are unhealthy and cause medical bills. This could well be implemented to alcohol, tobacco and drugs as they wont affect those who don´t overuse all this stuff. In other hand if these get too pricey they will create crime whereas taxing food propably won´t.
I actually almost feel bad for this kid because of his parents.
I would imagine you are for the poor, correct? Do poor people really have the option to choose from a variety of options in their diets? No, they don't. Look at it from a market perspective. Fatty foods are normally the cheapest for the amount of food. I think the alternative of being hungry is not any better. Let people decide for their own what they want to eat and how they want to live without proclaiming dictats down to the lowly proleteriat.
Once you go down this logical road, you might as well tax anything that has a negative effect. Why not? What in the logical process prevents you. Logical inconsistencies are the worst. It's as worst as stupid seatbelt laws, and bicycle helmet laws. If these people take the risks they full well are aware of, then why is it anyone else's business?
Perhaps you shouldn't be so worried about what other people do, yes?
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Simple rule, don't give kids what they want, give them what they need.
Surgery isn't really necessary, feed the kid only water, lettuce, and vitamins.. maybe 1/4 of one of his normal meals each day as a treat.
Listen to him whine about being hungry for about 1 year... but he'll get used to it.
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Holy crap 820 pounds?
Even if 5 of me stood on a scale it would not be able to outweigh him. o.O wow. It's pretty disgusting actually, this kid is so fat he's like jabba the hutt from star wars...cant do shit himself and has giant boobs
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So, he kind of weighs more than my entire immediate family, probably eats more than all of us combined too. Hmmm...
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On September 08 2009 03:39 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2009 02:18 Mah Buckit! wrote:
Wow! Think of that kids potential, as in energy (mgh).
You know I think taxing can diminish the amount of obese people. Since taxing of sweets was removed in Finland the consumption has doubled. Now the taxes are coming back but they could raise taxes on other fatty foods too IMO.
Actually that Stan Dorn has pretty neat idea, to raise taxes on things that are unhealthy and cause medical bills. This could well be implemented to alcohol, tobacco and drugs as they wont affect those who don´t overuse all this stuff. In other hand if these get too pricey they will create crime whereas taxing food propably won´t.
I actually almost feel bad for this kid because of his parents. I would imagine you are for the poor, correct? Do poor people really have the option to choose from a variety of options in their diets? No, they don't. Look at it from a market perspective. Fatty foods are normally the cheapest for the amount of food. I think the alternative of being hungry is not any better. Let people decide for their own what they want to eat and how they want to live without proclaiming dictats down to the lowly proleteriat. Once you go down this logical road, you might as well tax anything that has a negative effect. Why not? What in the logical process prevents you. Logical inconsistencies are the worst. It's as worst as stupid seatbelt laws, and bicycle helmet laws. If these people take the risks they full well are aware of, then why is it anyone else's business?
You almost sound like you think there's no problem to solve and all would be fine if everyone would just ignore this guy's cry for help on the grounds that it was his choice to become a dieing teen. If you claim you do care about people, then what solution do you propose? You do agree something needs to be done, don't you?
He and a growing number of people like him are sick, morbidly so. Why are you against preventing needless suffering?
Perhaps you shouldn't be so worried about what other people do, yes?
It's called compassion, look it up.
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On September 08 2009 04:01 Doctorasul wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2009 03:39 Aegraen wrote:On September 08 2009 02:18 Mah Buckit! wrote:
Wow! Think of that kids potential, as in energy (mgh).
You know I think taxing can diminish the amount of obese people. Since taxing of sweets was removed in Finland the consumption has doubled. Now the taxes are coming back but they could raise taxes on other fatty foods too IMO.
Actually that Stan Dorn has pretty neat idea, to raise taxes on things that are unhealthy and cause medical bills. This could well be implemented to alcohol, tobacco and drugs as they wont affect those who don´t overuse all this stuff. In other hand if these get too pricey they will create crime whereas taxing food propably won´t.
I actually almost feel bad for this kid because of his parents. I would imagine you are for the poor, correct? Do poor people really have the option to choose from a variety of options in their diets? No, they don't. Look at it from a market perspective. Fatty foods are normally the cheapest for the amount of food. I think the alternative of being hungry is not any better. Let people decide for their own what they want to eat and how they want to live without proclaiming dictats down to the lowly proleteriat. Once you go down this logical road, you might as well tax anything that has a negative effect. Why not? What in the logical process prevents you. Logical inconsistencies are the worst. It's as worst as stupid seatbelt laws, and bicycle helmet laws. If these people take the risks they full well are aware of, then why is it anyone else's business? You almost sound like you think there's no problem to solve and all would be fine if everyone would just ignore this guy's cry for help on the grounds that it was his choice to become a dieing teen. If you claim you do care about people, then what solution do you propose? You do agree something needs to be done, don't you? He and a growing number of people like him are sick, morbidly so. Why are you against preventing needless suffering? It's called compassion, look it up.
How is taxing food* compassion? Might want to read my little quote also.
*The tax levied on top of the existing taxes...
If obese people don't want to get better, then that's their choice. I have no say in how another person can or should live. It's their life, not mine. It's not a problem for anyone, but himself. What is there to solve if the person doesn't want to solve the problem? I'm also not sure what kind of help you are proposing? That is up to his family, and himself.
I propose letting people make their own conscious decisions, whether the outcome is negative or positive does not matter. The only thing that does matter is the freedom of conscious choice without any coercive force existing. Stop trying to think you can cure humanities imperfections, you can't. The best you can do is let people live the way they want to.
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"David Smith even hatched a plan to end it. He would get an inflatable swimming pool, and he would take it to a remote spot in the Arizona desert. He would fill it with gasoline, get in, and light a match. It would be a horrific and painful way to die, but that’s what Smith thought he deserved."
Holy Shit.
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On September 08 2009 04:35 Megalisk wrote:
"David Smith even hatched a plan to end it. He would get an inflatable swimming pool, and he would take it to a remote spot in the Arizona desert. He would fill it with gasoline, get in, and light a match. It would be a horrific and painful way to die, but that’s what Smith thought he deserved."
Holy Shit.
i want to watch that 650lb virgin, and i dont have TLC on cable t.t time to mass google..
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Clearly fat people shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
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On September 08 2009 03:05 Snet wrote:
Certainly it's absurd to let yourself go like that, but it doesn't make him some kind of freak. Just hearing the way he interacts with his parents and the doctors, he's extremely sweet and polite.
People don't understand that you don't just suddenly become that fat. It happens over a long process and it can happen so slow that you don't realize how big you've gotten until someone points it out to you. It's like meeting up with someone you haven't seen in a few years, they will be like "oh you look soooo different", wtf I thought I looked the same?
After a certain amount of time it is so easy to get the idea that, "it's too late, I'm already 400lbs +, I will never be skinny again... why even try?" And that's how they build up to 600-800 and when they realize they will soon no longer be able to walk or move is when they do drastic things like these surgeries.
I wouldn't call an average of ~50 pounds a year slowly adding weight ^_^
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look at the tits on that one.
yeehaa...oh wait. oh no. OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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how the fuck does this kids heart beat without being smothered by fattening.
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He is obviously a TL member, that can't possibly be a coincidence.
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that's it, i'm off to the gym
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