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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 19:42 GMT
#281
Now that is what you call a strawman.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:45:54
August 17 2009 19:42 GMT
#282
On August 18 2009 04:42 Mindcrime wrote:
Now that is what you call a strawman.


How do you figure?

Are you saying the argument I'm making about your diminished ability to reason is right?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 19:45 GMT
#283
Did I say anything about the physiological needs of hawks?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 19:47 GMT
#284
On August 18 2009 04:45 Mindcrime wrote:
Did I say anything about the physiological needs of hawks?


No, I did. You said that I read too much into it that the additional animals would be needed for eating. My proof is that many animals need to eat and only eat meat so they would NEED additional animals for food, if not for themselves, for the animals.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 19:50 GMT
#285
No, I said that you read to much into it when you tried to say that a portion of the 7 of each clean animal/bird were designated for food when their only stated purpose is the propagation of their respective kinds.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 19:50 GMT
#286
On August 18 2009 04:50 Mindcrime wrote:
No, I said that you read to much into it when you tried to say that a portion of the 7 of each clean animal/bird were designated for food when their only stated purpose is the propagation of their respective kinds.


So, the other animals who are solely meat-eaters don't need to eat for a month and a half?
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:53:24
August 17 2009 19:51 GMT
#287
On August 18 2009 00:10 NExUS1g wrote:

You state that the Isrealites having been in slavery in Egypt has been proven false? There is no evidence one way or another.


Whatever. You're burden of proof to prove that there were, not mine. =/ I can't disprove everything.
Heck, I can't even disprove that there weren't aliens in Egypt.
You're making the claim there were Jewish slaves in Egypt. Prove it.

If we cannot allow a law to exist that allows schools, at their discretion, to provide an elective course around the Bible, then we might as well remove all other mention of religions in the entire texts of books on history and social studies.


We can. Just tell me how it passes the lemon test, and how making it only require the Bible to be added to the curriculum is secular and does not advance Christianity in any way.

The fact that we need such a law to ALLOW it is preposterous.


Great opinion.

Edit: Judaism is birthed directly from the Bible.


I'ma stop after seeing this........ Lol. GJ losing credibility.

on August 18 2009, Aegraen wrote

Dude, why not teach about SG-1? Apophis is the shit.

I like your ideas. ^_^
darkness overpowering
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 19:57 GMT
#288
On August 18 2009 04:51 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 00:10 NExUS1g wrote:

You state that the Isrealites having been in slavery in Egypt has been proven false? There is no evidence one way or another.


Whatever. You're burden of proof to prove that there were, not mine. =/ I can't disprove everything.
Heck, I can't even disprove that there weren't aliens in Egypt.
You're making the claim there were Jewish slaves in Egypt. Prove it.

Show nested quote +
If we cannot allow a law to exist that allows schools, at their discretion, to provide an elective course around the Bible, then we might as well remove all other mention of religions in the entire texts of books on history and social studies.


We can. Just tell me how it passes the lemon test, and how making it only require the Bible to be added to the curriculum is secular and does not advance Christianity in any way.

Show nested quote +
The fact that we need such a law to ALLOW it is preposterous.


Great opinion.

Show nested quote +
Edit: Judaism is birthed directly from the Bible.


I'ma stop after seeing this........ Lol. GJ losing credibility.

Show nested quote +
on August 18 2009, Aegraen wrote

Dude, why not teach about SG-1? Apophis is the shit.

I like your ideas. ^_^


We've been over the Judaism thing, and it has been consensus (2 to 1) that this is a semantic argument.

I told you how it passes the Lemon test, you're just not happy with the answers.

I don't have to prove anything because I said that we don't know. You said it was outright false, you have to provide the proof for your definitive statement. In fact, I think I have more proof than you that it is true even though I admit to the fact that we don't know. I have the Bible and also an Ancient Egyptian tablet that, in it, mentions the Israelites and their defeat by the Egyptians to back me up. What do you have backing you up that says it's false?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 19:59 GMT
#289
On August 18 2009 04:50 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:50 Mindcrime wrote:
No, I said that you read to much into it when you tried to say that a portion of the 7 of each clean animal/bird were designated for food when their only stated purpose is the propagation of their respective kinds.


So, the other animals who are solely meat-eaters don't need to eat for a month and a half?


Providing food is beyond the means of an omnipotent god?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 20:01:38
August 17 2009 20:01 GMT
#290
On August 18 2009 04:59 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:50 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:50 Mindcrime wrote:
No, I said that you read to much into it when you tried to say that a portion of the 7 of each clean animal/bird were designated for food when their only stated purpose is the propagation of their respective kinds.


So, the other animals who are solely meat-eaters don't need to eat for a month and a half?


Providing food is beyond the means of an omnipotent god?


He provided manna to the Israelites in the wilderness, so no. But man's supposed to work for his food, remember?

You're losing this whole argument in a sad, sad way.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:01 GMT
#291
On August 18 2009 05:01 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:59 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:50 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:50 Mindcrime wrote:
No, I said that you read to much into it when you tried to say that a portion of the 7 of each clean animal/bird were designated for food when their only stated purpose is the propagation of their respective kinds.


So, the other animals who are solely meat-eaters don't need to eat for a month and a half?


Providing food is beyond the means of an omnipotent god?


He provided manna to the Israelites in the wilderness, so no. But man's supposed to work for his food, remember?


except when he isn't, apparently
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:03 GMT
#292
On August 18 2009 05:01 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:01 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:59 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:50 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:50 Mindcrime wrote:
No, I said that you read to much into it when you tried to say that a portion of the 7 of each clean animal/bird were designated for food when their only stated purpose is the propagation of their respective kinds.


So, the other animals who are solely meat-eaters don't need to eat for a month and a half?


Providing food is beyond the means of an omnipotent god?


He provided manna to the Israelites in the wilderness, so no. But man's supposed to work for his food, remember?


except when he isn't, apparently


The manna provided to the Israelites was because of their wandering nature and it was deemed by God they would wander in the wilderness for 40 years so he provided them a means to nourish themselves since they could not plant and harvest.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:04 GMT
#293
so... except when he isn't
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:07 GMT
#294
On August 18 2009 05:04 Mindcrime wrote:
so... except when he isn't


Oh... my... god...

It was by God's will that man had to work for his own food (you probably know where it says that even). God decided to make food for the Israelites. He told Noah to gather more animals for food. Deal with it.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:10 GMT
#295
On August 18 2009 05:07 NExUS1g wrote:
He told Noah to gather more animals for food.


That's an inference, but a reasonable one.

But the seven of every clean animal and bird... their only stated purpose was the propagation of their various kinds.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:12 GMT
#296
On August 18 2009 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:07 NExUS1g wrote:
He told Noah to gather more animals for food.


That's an inference, but a reasonable one.

But the seven of every clean animal and bird... their only stated purpose was the propagation of their various kinds.


Again, would they be able to propagate if they were eaten? Was there a requirement to have meat on board for some of the animals? Do you think the tigers ate the wood of the ship? What do you think they ate?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:14 GMT
#297
On August 18 2009 05:12 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:07 NExUS1g wrote:
He told Noah to gather more animals for food.


That's an inference, but a reasonable one.

But the seven of every clean animal and bird... their only stated purpose was the propagation of their various kinds.


Again, would they be able to propagate if they were eaten? Was there a requirement to have meat on board for some of the animals? Do you think the tigers ate the wood of the ship? What do you think they ate?


Presumably, they ate the food that Noah stored for himself and the animals... which the seven of every clean animal and bird are not said to be included in.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:17 GMT
#298
On August 18 2009 05:14 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:12 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:07 NExUS1g wrote:
He told Noah to gather more animals for food.


That's an inference, but a reasonable one.

But the seven of every clean animal and bird... their only stated purpose was the propagation of their various kinds.


Again, would they be able to propagate if they were eaten? Was there a requirement to have meat on board for some of the animals? Do you think the tigers ate the wood of the ship? What do you think they ate?


Presumably, they ate the food that Noah stored for himself and the animals... which the seven of every clean animal and bird are not said to be included in.


Uh-huh, that's why he was only told to bring 7 of each of the clean (edible by the law) animals and only 2 of the non-edible, right?

I know you're not incapable of reasoning. You can't be. I mean I imagine you get through life using reasoning, so why has it taken leave of you here?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:22 GMT
#299
On August 18 2009 05:17 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:14 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:12 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:07 NExUS1g wrote:
He told Noah to gather more animals for food.


That's an inference, but a reasonable one.

But the seven of every clean animal and bird... their only stated purpose was the propagation of their various kinds.


Again, would they be able to propagate if they were eaten? Was there a requirement to have meat on board for some of the animals? Do you think the tigers ate the wood of the ship? What do you think they ate?


Presumably, they ate the food that Noah stored for himself and the animals... which the seven of every clean animal and bird are not said to be included in.


Uh-huh, that's why he was only told to bring 7 of each of the clean (edible by the law) animals and only 2 of the non-edible, right?

I know you're not incapable of reasoning. You can't be. I mean I imagine you get through life using reasoning, so why has it taken leave of you here?


I don't know about you, but I would rather build up a bigger base of edible animals to start over with than inedible ones.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Sky
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Jordan812 Posts
August 17 2009 20:23 GMT
#300
The book has mixed reviews on amazon.com.
...jumping into cold water whenever I get the chance.
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