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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:24 GMT
#301
plus you need some to sacrifice after your benevolent god stops flooding your world
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:24 GMT
#302
On August 18 2009 05:22 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:17 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:14 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:12 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:10 Mindcrime wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:07 NExUS1g wrote:
He told Noah to gather more animals for food.


That's an inference, but a reasonable one.

But the seven of every clean animal and bird... their only stated purpose was the propagation of their various kinds.


Again, would they be able to propagate if they were eaten? Was there a requirement to have meat on board for some of the animals? Do you think the tigers ate the wood of the ship? What do you think they ate?


Presumably, they ate the food that Noah stored for himself and the animals... which the seven of every clean animal and bird are not said to be included in.


Uh-huh, that's why he was only told to bring 7 of each of the clean (edible by the law) animals and only 2 of the non-edible, right?

I know you're not incapable of reasoning. You can't be. I mean I imagine you get through life using reasoning, so why has it taken leave of you here?


I don't know about you, but I would rather build up a bigger base of edible animals to start over with than inedible ones.


So the tigers won't need to eat some of the animals?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:25 GMT
#303
why waste clean animals on a tiger
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:25 GMT
#304
On August 18 2009 05:24 Mindcrime wrote:
plus you need some to sacrifice after your benevolent god stops flooding your world


He's not my god, I'm agnostic. But I do despise ignorance. Just like you assuming that God is benevolent or supposed to be.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:26 GMT
#305
On August 18 2009 05:25 Mindcrime wrote:
why waste clean animals on a tiger


Because there's only two of each of the unclean and if the tigers ate one there's goes that species. Why is it I have to spell everything out for you? Are you replying without thinking for yourself first?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:27 GMT
#306
On August 18 2009 05:25 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:24 Mindcrime wrote:
plus you need some to sacrifice after your benevolent god stops flooding your world


He's not my god, I'm agnostic. But I do despise ignorance. Just like you assuming that God is benevolent or supposed to be.


Hey, I don't think he's benevolent or supposed to be, but most Christians don't believe like the Phelps clan do.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:30 GMT
#307
On August 18 2009 05:26 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:25 Mindcrime wrote:
why waste clean animals on a tiger


Because there's only two of each of the unclean and if the tigers ate one there's goes that species. Why is it I have to spell everything out for you? Are you replying without thinking for yourself first?


Who said the tiger had to eat one of the living unclean animals meant to propagate their species?

maybe some of the food Noah stored is salt-cured meat
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:31 GMT
#308
On August 18 2009 05:30 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:26 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:25 Mindcrime wrote:
why waste clean animals on a tiger


Because there's only two of each of the unclean and if the tigers ate one there's goes that species. Why is it I have to spell everything out for you? Are you replying without thinking for yourself first?


Who said the tiger had to eat one of the living unclean animals meant to propagate their species?

maybe some of the food Noah stored is salt-cured meat


Now you're making things up.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:32 GMT
#309
I don't know what sort of food the author(s) of Genesis thought he stored, but they didn't designate the clean animals as being part of that food.... so there we are.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:34 GMT
#310
On August 18 2009 05:32 Mindcrime wrote:
I don't know what sort of food the author(s) of Genesis thought he stored, but they didn't designate the clean animals as being part of that food.... so there we are.


Seriously, get an MRI.
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
August 17 2009 20:37 GMT
#311
On August 18 2009 03:30 daz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 03:09 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 03:03 daz wrote:
i wonder if they're going to teach them the parts in the bible where god encourages people to slaughter children, rape women and beat slaves


Slaughter children? Sure I remember that. Beat slaves? I think I remember that. Rape women? Not sure about that one. Where's it at?


zechariah 14:1-2

2 samuel 12:11-12

i think theres a few more as well


Those are prophecies (declarative statements) not commands (imperative statements)

ie

I believe that
The Nazis killed millions of Jews in the Holocaust

Was that second line an Anti-Semetic statement? no it was a Statement of Fact, a declarative, it Happened
Change it to

Hitler said
The Nazis should Kill millions of Jews in the Holocaust

The second line there is an imperative command, according Hitler, the Nazis Should do this.

Now a God as he is described in the bible can make future declarative statments... (it should be noted in both of those examples it is the women of Israel/the king that will be raped because of the disaster that is coming on them for disobedience) it is not a command or even permission for israel to do the same.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:39 GMT
#312
more insults plz
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:39 GMT
#313
On August 18 2009 05:37 Krikkitone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 03:30 daz wrote:
On August 18 2009 03:09 NExUS1g wrote:
On August 18 2009 03:03 daz wrote:
i wonder if they're going to teach them the parts in the bible where god encourages people to slaughter children, rape women and beat slaves


Slaughter children? Sure I remember that. Beat slaves? I think I remember that. Rape women? Not sure about that one. Where's it at?


zechariah 14:1-2

2 samuel 12:11-12

i think theres a few more as well


Those are prophecies (declarative statements) not commands (imperative statements)

ie

I believe that
The Nazis killed millions of Jews in the Holocaust

Was that second line an Anti-Semetic statement? no it was a Statement of Fact, a declarative, it Happened
Change it to

Hitler said
The Nazis should Kill millions of Jews in the Holocaust

The second line there is an imperative command, according Hitler, the Nazis Should do this.

Now a God as he is described in the bible can make future declarative statments... (it should be noted in both of those examples it is the women of Israel/the king that will be raped because of the disaster that is coming on them for disobedience) it is not a command or even permission for israel to do the same.


Nice. Glad it's you and not me that stepped in that one though.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:41 GMT
#314
On August 18 2009 05:39 Mindcrime wrote:
more insults plz


There's just no point in going on if you continue to refuse to think for yourself. If this is due to incapability, you should get an MRI of your brain to see what's going on up there. If it's by choice, you should just pull your head out of your ass.

Either way, I'm done.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
August 17 2009 20:41 GMT
#315
impact on government?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
August 17 2009 20:45 GMT
#316
On August 18 2009 05:41 NExUS1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:39 Mindcrime wrote:
more insults plz


There's just no point in going on if you continue to refuse to think for yourself. If this is due to incapability, you should get an MRI of your brain to see what's going on up there. If it's by choice, you should just pull your head out of your ass.

Either way, I'm done.


You're reading the text and seeing something that is not there. Stop it.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
August 17 2009 20:50 GMT
#317
On August 18 2009 05:39 NExUS1g wrote:
Nice. Glad it's you and not me that stepped in that one though.


It would definitely be an important thing to let people realize that there are a number of things God does that he tells us not to do. For the basic reason that we are not equal to him (in the way that we are not equal to a pieces of paper). A number of people Christian or not have this idea of the christian santa claus god, that is good because he does what we want.

Hence, I do agree that a course on the Bible would be very good for the average person, especially in a society where many talk about this nonbiblical "god of the bible". (whether they believe he exists or not)


inss
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States51 Posts
August 17 2009 21:17 GMT
#318
if you have no knowledge of the bible whatsoever you wont understand the inspiration behind lots of western art and architecture. it would also be hard to understand the influence it had on literature and the biblical metaphors and references used will go over your head. i have no problem with studying the bible in school from a purely intellectual point of view as long as it is an elective and taught as mythology not history. also the course would have to acknowledge that it was man-made for me to be ok with it.
Vision
Profile Joined June 2009
United States113 Posts
August 17 2009 21:20 GMT
#319
Things like this make me want to leave this country even more than I already wanted to..
Let's unite the blizzard community! But you can't actually talk to eachother..... - Luca
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 17 2009 21:24 GMT
#320
I'm sure the students and teachers who don't care for it have the option to ignore it. Just like not everyone has to cross their heart and do the flag salute every morning.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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