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Banner thanks to the mighty Cube!
Settlers of Catan! A board game, online via a game called Pioneers of Peru and ASOBrain. The game can be played with 2-8 players although only some mods can use 8 players.
First off learn to play here!
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/video/how-to-play-settlers-of-catan-221079/
http://www.profeasy.com/Settlers_Boardgame/index.html (A better option in my opinion.)
Thanks ydg!
On July 31 2009 05:01 Jyvblamo wrote:I used to play this occasionally on http://games.asobrain.comI quit though because it's frustrating as hell when the rolls don't come your way. :\
That website offers quite a few games; however, Xplorers is Settlers of Catan. They have both the original and the Cities + Knights versions.
ASOBrain Usernames
+ Show Spoiler +This may not be perfectly up-to-date.
TL User : ASOBrain Username
LeperKahn : LeperKahn
skronch : skronch
ThePhan2m : 1337Jaron
Asta : Asta
Cube : Cubey
Ketu : Ketu
Mark718: Mark718
Pholon : Pholon
weepingblades : weepingblades
There is interest in the TL Tournament and Clan. I'll look into this. If you're interested please post!
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United States3824 Posts
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Netherlands6142 Posts
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United States17042 Posts
This game is so much fun. I don't think i want to play online though, it's way to addicting.
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Seems like an interesting game 
edit omg what more than one person had a Liquipedia icon.
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I used to play this occasionally on http://games.asobrain.com
I quit though because it's frustrating as hell when the rolls don't come your way. :\
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South Africa4316 Posts
Haha, when we stayed in Germany we bought this game and the seefahrer expansion pack for it. Such a fun game. It's probably one of my all time favourite board games for vacations, along with Sechs Nimmt. So much fun!
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i think ive played this before. a while ago though...
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There was a thread already about Catan. I used to play in asobrain, also have the boardgame. Discovered it on my beloved NGage
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
This is such a great game.
I should mention that I'm the undisputed champion within my town limits. We held a tournament. I won.
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On July 31 2009 05:01 Jyvblamo wrote:I used to play this occasionally on http://games.asobrain.comI quit though because it's frustrating as hell when the rolls don't come your way. :\
Yeah, much easier to play on asobrain... I would say play on there..
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this game is awesome, i play on asobrain too. hit me up if you want to play a game, my username is skronch there as well
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
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On August 01 2009 20:10 SF-Fork wrote:Hey, here's an idea, let's organize a TL tournment! And I agree that the best place to play is http://games.asobrain.com/
great idea!
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start of a new month (rankings reset) on games.asobrain.com
I'm going by the nick 1337Jaron. add me, would be fun to play with TL people. We should make a clan.
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TL owning asobrain would be so awesome!
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ohh cool i know this game and i play him sometimes with friends fun game
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I'm playing this too, nick Asta. Very addictive. ^^
I don't understand C&K though, so I stick with the original.
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On August 03 2009 17:03 Asta wrote:
I'm playing this too, nick Asta. Very addictive. ^^
I don't understand C&K though, so I stick with the original.
I actually like cities and knights better, but it is fairly complicated to learn.
That said I've actually seen the board game of C&K, and I don't like playing it because theres too many cards to keep track of. thus, I'll only play C&K online now.
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Germany2762 Posts
On July 31 2009 06:18 Daigomi wrote:
Haha, when we stayed in Germany we bought this game and the seefahrer expansion pack for it. Such a fun game. It's probably one of my all time favourite board games for vacations, along with Sechs Nimmt. So much fun!
sechs nimmt ftw! :D
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amazing game. I prefer the real life over the online version thou
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more people should come play. we have had so many fun games ^^
Cube, Tehpanda, Pholon, Quicksilver, ender and me.
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settles of catan to a real board game is like red alert to sc
sorry guys
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Played this when I lived there. A friend made a pirate version. He baked silly putty for the pieces.
Usually we discarded the rule about the bandit taking half your cards. It sucked to save up for two roads and a town only for them to go away. If you built the road one length at a time then the town, someone would know where you were going and take it first, which also sucked. I guess Sirlin would say we played a scrubby way.
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Bump for new banner and updated post a bit. We're still playing on IRC and TL vent if you wanna join in!
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The boardgame is awesome. I frequently play it with friends or the family and it's always good stuff 
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On July 31 2009 08:35 tree.hugger wrote:
This is such a great game.
I should mention that I'm the undisputed champion within my town limits. We held a tournament. I won.
I should mention that it's a luck game. There's dice in it. I once won a game even though i only got income from the number 4. Making 36 notes with all dice combinations on it evens it out a little bit, but the game is still carp compared to some other board games...
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a lot of this game is based on luck...
the decision making process is usually pretty simple.
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Whoever says this game is based on luck is ignorant. After you played it a while, you learn alot more and the games never last more than 30mins. The postioning of the towns are the most important thing. Numbers 6 & 8 will clearly come most often, and if you then rely on bad numbers to win it is your own fault! You make your luck in this game. With 7's at top on rolls, followed by 5 / 9, then 4/10 and much less 3/11 & 2/12. Rolls will be in the order they are supposed to in most games, and atleast on asobrain, it will even out to be as it it suposed to be if you get unlucky in the begining with one number. This way you can control your play. Aswell as position houses in places where for instance Lumber and Brick are on the same number, witch makes roads much easier to build. Also Ore and Wheat, so Cities so much easier to uppgrade. And Sheep / Ore / Wheat for longer games, development cards will give you the game. Positioning is everything. If you say that it is only based on luck, then you havent even tried to improve. It is so much about the small things, like where you place your roads, when you build what and when you take dev cards. However the only thing thats heavily dependent on luck during some parts of the game is the development cards you take. Sometimes you might not get what you need. But there is also % chance on that, so if you need a knight to move the robber, the highest chance of the cards are a knight. You can even increase this chance, by logically thinking what has already been drawn from the cards, and the chances to get what you need.
Please dont try to reason if you have barley tried this game.
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But depending on the maps the initial starting order can completely decide the game.
And I don't think the game actively balances the dice results. Pretty sure the law of large numbers does that on its own.
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On August 17 2009 05:39 Asta wrote:
But depending on the maps the initial starting order can completely decide the game.
And I don't think the game actively balances the dice results. Pretty sure the law of large numbers does that on its own.
asobrain balances dice results. I've decided this is a good thing though <.<.
Anyway, Phan2m is right I've been playing with him and a few other good people and there is clearly a way to win at this game based on knowing the mechanics.
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It's all about the 2 for 1 ports, even though development cards are very useful late game.
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Lots of fun! I'm playing a couple games a day. Name is Mark718
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Hey why am I not on the list yet D:
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tried a couple of games, its slightly fun, but cant be compared to playing it real life.
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This game deserves more attention. We recently bought this a few weeks ago and the fun it can lead up to is priceless.
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Hey hey,
just started playing on asobrain yesterday
username is weepingblades, same as on here
I'm pretty dire atm, but hopefully will improve, and I'm def. up for some clannage. Been playing C&K so far, lots of fun
Kev
edit: huh, didn't realise that was my first post
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On August 17 2009 05:15 ThePhan2m wrote:
Whoever says this game is based on luck is ignorant. After you played it a while, you learn alot more and the games never last more than 30mins. The postioning of the towns are the most important thing. Numbers 6 & 8 will clearly come most often, and if you then rely on bad numbers to win it is your own fault! You make your luck in this game. With 7's at top on rolls, followed by 5 / 9, then 4/10 and much less 3/11 & 2/12. Rolls will be in the order they are supposed to in most games, and atleast on asobrain, it will even out to be as it it suposed to be if you get unlucky in the begining with one number. This way you can control your play. Aswell as position houses in places where for instance Lumber and Brick are on the same number, witch makes roads much easier to build. Also Ore and Wheat, so Cities so much easier to uppgrade. And Sheep / Ore / Wheat for longer games, development cards will give you the game. Positioning is everything. If you say that it is only based on luck, then you havent even tried to improve. It is so much about the small things, like where you place your roads, when you build what and when you take dev cards. However the only thing thats heavily dependent on luck during some parts of the game is the development cards you take. Sometimes you might not get what you need. But there is also % chance on that, so if you need a knight to move the robber, the highest chance of the cards are a knight. You can even increase this chance, by logically thinking what has already been drawn from the cards, and the chances to get what you need.
Please dont try to reason if you have barley tried this game.
please play some real board games?
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On August 18 2009 09:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2009 05:15 ThePhan2m wrote:
Whoever says this game is based on luck is ignorant. After you played it a while, you learn alot more and the games never last more than 30mins. The postioning of the towns are the most important thing. Numbers 6 & 8 will clearly come most often, and if you then rely on bad numbers to win it is your own fault! You make your luck in this game. With 7's at top on rolls, followed by 5 / 9, then 4/10 and much less 3/11 & 2/12. Rolls will be in the order they are supposed to in most games, and atleast on asobrain, it will even out to be as it it suposed to be if you get unlucky in the begining with one number. This way you can control your play. Aswell as position houses in places where for instance Lumber and Brick are on the same number, witch makes roads much easier to build. Also Ore and Wheat, so Cities so much easier to uppgrade. And Sheep / Ore / Wheat for longer games, development cards will give you the game. Positioning is everything. If you say that it is only based on luck, then you havent even tried to improve. It is so much about the small things, like where you place your roads, when you build what and when you take dev cards. However the only thing thats heavily dependent on luck during some parts of the game is the development cards you take. Sometimes you might not get what you need. But there is also % chance on that, so if you need a knight to move the robber, the highest chance of the cards are a knight. You can even increase this chance, by logically thinking what has already been drawn from the cards, and the chances to get what you need.
Please dont try to reason if you have barley tried this game. please play some real board games?
What are some "real" board games?
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Monopoly! Pure skillz y0~
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On August 18 2009 17:10 LeperKahn wrote:
What are some "real" board games?
depends what you like but puerto rico, vinci, el grande, cuba, game of thrones are all a lot of fun if you like settlers of catan it's almost impossible not to love playing these games. the major difference is that these are all designed to negate the luck factor as much as possible so none of them work with dice
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Liquid'Nazgul, You were right.
Asobrain got hacked 2 weeks ago, during the time they have been down, they have uppdated their system, including changing the dices back to totally random generators. For more info on the asobrain news uppdate. I've played alot alot settlers on asobrain, and the dices imo were perfect there. Making the curve on the numbers perfectly balanced. And then you could put your play totally acording to the numbers. Now, its completly random, its so based on luck. I just played a game, with 16 6's rolls, and 5 8 rolls. They should be equal to some extent, however, the person that got lucky enough to put his buildings on a 6 easily won the game. Including their intense lead with 13pts, to our 10 and me on 7. Also the fact of them chosing 9 aswell, i got unluck due to me having no 9s and 9 getting rolled 11 times. 7, suposedly getting rolled most, got rolled 9 times. This proves your where right, I here by retire from asobrain settlers.
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awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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On August 18 2009 20:03 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:depends what you like but puerto rico, vinci, el grande, cuba, game of thrones are all a lot of fun if you like settlers of catan it's almost impossible not to love playing these games. the major difference is that these are all designed to negate the luck factor as much as possible so none of them work with dice
So poker is just luck ?
Dice -> probabilities and it doesn't take the skill away.
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On November 11 2009 08:41 Boblion wrote:So poker is just luck ? Dice -> probabilities and it doesn't take the skill away.
youre kidding me right, poker over 20 hands (dice throws) is 99% luck
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On November 11 2009 08:49 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2009 08:41 Boblion wrote:So poker is just luck ? Dice -> probabilities and it doesn't take the skill away. youre kidding me right, poker over 20 hands (dice throws) is 99% luck
played by bets and typical betting structures, nope.
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On November 11 2009 10:19 Afasia wrote:
played by bets and typical betting structures, nope.
what does that even mean, poker over 20 hands is clearly very very random seeing as how good players can lose to bad players over ten thousands of hands
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On November 11 2009 08:49 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2009 08:41 Boblion wrote:So poker is just luck ? Dice -> probabilities and it doesn't take the skill away. youre kidding me right, poker over 20 hands (dice throws) is 99% luck
Eh you are only rolling 20 dices in your life ?
If you want to be serious about any kind of card game / wargame ( hell even bw or chess ) you need to do BoX ( with a really big X ) to know who is the best player.
So yea that's not always the best player who wins. Like a stupid donk can win a MTT or your average C- Tosstard cheesing his way to beat a solid terran.
But if you play a huge amount of Catan games you will have the highest win ratio ( if you are the best obviously ).
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you need to boX in sc not cause of luck but because equally skilled players often take games from each other you really have no idea about how sc dice poker are in comparison to each other
its also funny you think 'cheese' in sc is based on luck you can try to cheese someone substantially above your skill level all you want but you wont win, whereas in both poker and catan no matter how terrible someone is they can always beat you
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On November 11 2009 11:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
you need to boX in sc not cause of luck but because equally skilled players often take games from each other you really have no idea about how sc dice poker are in comparison to each other
And what about Durrr Vs Antonius 50K challenge ?
Are they playing because " equally skilled players often take games hands from each other or because they want to soften variance ?
Eh i doubt you can answer that.
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poker is not like sc buddy, the variance in SC is not due to random hands. the very fact that you compare SC variance to poker variance shows you are completely clueless about both of them
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lol boblion just stop D:
you have no idea what you're talking about
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On November 11 2009 11:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
its also funny you think 'cheese' in sc is based on luck you can try to cheese someone substantially above your skill level all you want but you wont win, whereas in both poker and catan no matter how terrible someone is they can always beat you
I don't think it is based on luck. However in some match ups ( especially PvT ) there are some really tricky build orders and mediocre player might get some wins from better Terran players once in a while whereas they would rolled in a standart game.
But does it means that the Toss player is better because he managed to make a successful DT drop ?
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sc is a game of chess and a dt drop is a tactical move, anyone can beat a player better than him by strategically getting the better of him by making unexpected moves. how is it luck that your opponent has no detection. detection is a conscious choice. if your opponent does not get any hands in poker it's not a conscious choice get it?
this would be poker in an sc setting: picking the worst strategy, play it the worst way, d level player against a level, and still being able to win
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On November 11 2009 11:42 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
poker is not like sc buddy, the variance in SC is not due to random hands. the very fact that you compare SC variance to poker variance shows you are completely clueless about both of them
Where i talked about variance in bw ?
Actually variance and probabilities in poker can be calculed thanks to combinatorics.
Obviously you can't know what is the probability for player A to beat player B in a bw game or any kind of sport or video games because you can't quantize all the infinite amount of variables that you need to describe a player. That's why you can only say if you know both players very well that player A for example can beat player most of the time or 2 out of 3 games but you will never be able to know what is the exact % ( moreover the skill of both players is constantly evolving ). But even if player A is WAY better than B he will never get a 100% probability of win. It will be something like 99,99999...%
On the other hand in card games some cards always beat the others.
I think we agree here right ?
Ok maybe i have expressed myself poorly in my previous post.
My point is that even if a game is revolving around dices and probabilities, if you can pick situations with an higher % of win than your opponent there is skill involved.
That's not only true for poker but for many different kind of card games.
Obviously that means that the complete beginner can beat you but overall you are still the best player and you will be the winner of a BoX or if you play a huge amount of games / hands etc ...
edit: i know it can be lame because you can't 20-tabling Catan like poker and it is tilting to see one noob friend win the one hour game of the evening but if you could you would have the best win-loss ratio.
So yea your 20 hands comparison was good. But what i said is that if you want to know who is the best just play tons of games of Catan and make a scoreboard. Takes time though :p
Sry for the useless argument btw. Time to sleep.
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anyone up for games now/tonight/in the next 12h?
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anyone up for games now/tonight/in the next 12h?
I'm online on asobrain alot, so just whisper me and we can play
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On November 11 2009 10:23 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2009 10:19 Afasia wrote:
played by bets and typical betting structures, nope. what does that even mean, poker over 20 hands is clearly very very random seeing as how good players can lose to bad players over ten thousands of hands
I sort of meant what you said just now. In those 20 hands if other player has far more knowledge and experience than his opponent he will gain each hand no matter what the outcome of that specific hand was.
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