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As some of you have come to realize that have played the game it does not boast a very friendly environment for people who are still relatively new nor do the people really embracing the team concept. This has really gotten on my nerves since I prefer to play support but I feel kinda useless with noting to support.
So I started to wonder where I could find a friendly group of people to play with that aren't just playing to pimp up their stats and kill steal every time the opportunity arises.
I was wondering if we should all join a channel together ( We can just call it or something TeamLiquid ) and organize games from there and play the game it was meant to be played.
Anyone interested ?
( Edit )
The Team Liquid Clan has been made!
Join the channel Clan Teamliquid ( /j Clan Teamliquid ) and...
Whisper ChillyWally ( Me ), Eti307, Zazen, Sethrod or Railz for a invite
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Don't let the haters get to you. Almost everyone in the HoN beta is absolutely terrible and still flame people.
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Yea, as with most online multiplayer gaming experiences, noobs just flame to shift the blame (hey, I did a rhyme ) away from themselves when things go wrong.
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I'm interested, I'm Eti307 on there I'll surely be on sometimes tonight
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On July 27 2009 23:32 Eti307 wrote: I'm interested, I'm Eti307 on there I'll surely be on sometimes tonight
I'll add you when I get home from work.
If anyone of you want to add me its ChillyWally.
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The dota-community is absolutely horrible. Everyone's a prepubescent elitist. This is why you just join games, play as you wish, and ignore their comments until you're good enough to be of use to the team.
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Actually it's not that horrible...
But 1 jerk on your team is enough to turn 1-2 others in your team which are enough to turn the rest into including yourself :p.
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totZi if anyone wants to add me!
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I'm Zazen, add me as well. I'm all up for playing some TL inhouses. I'm not the most skilled guy ever but I think I can do well with support heroes, specially tanks. Jereziah and Accursed are my favorite!
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keit @ HoN
always up for some games if I'm online, getting soo tired of all the bad manner children on there.
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Northern Ireland22207 Posts
How about making a TL clan
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/j TeamLiquid
/j is the command to join a channel. Come with moi.
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I'll be there in maybe 1-2hours.
getting off work soon
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Channel WCR on HoN there always has a decent amount of friendly people in the channel and we usually get some inhouse games going. Most will be helpful to you.
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On July 28 2009 04:32 ahswtini wrote: How about making a TL clan
But how?
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On July 28 2009 06:06 Adeny wrote:But how?
Next patch we're supposedly able.
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Oh I'm in Beta. Am Flicky on HoN so if there's a list of something that will be published.
I don't mind playing with beginners if I can talk to them on vent or something.
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Should I edit the original thread with all the account names ?
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Done
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Sure. Also about vent, there's in-game voice chat.
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I suggest making a TL clan. (Clan support is being released with tommorow's patch.)
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Im on #TeamLiquid with 4 other guys.
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I'm ZoW on HoN.
I'm terribad though
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On July 28 2009 09:22 iLoveKT wrote: Im on #TeamLiquid with 4 other guys.
You mean TeamLiquid right, not #TeamLiquid?
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On July 28 2009 10:07 Adeny wrote:You mean TeamLiquid right, not #TeamLiquid? yeah. just type /j teamliquid
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add MeriaDoK if anyone wants to play
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On July 28 2009 10:07 iLoveKT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2009 10:07 Adeny wrote:On July 28 2009 09:22 iLoveKT wrote: Im on #TeamLiquid with 4 other guys. You mean TeamLiquid right, not #TeamLiquid? yeah. just type /j teamliquid
Just double-checking in chase of a parallel unive... channel.
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Great games with Kgosi tonight, we didnt lose once! ggs!
next time let's try and get a full team that would be even better :D
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I've been playing for a few days with some friends. There's definatelly a lot of assholes in the game, but I only play with friends so it's ok :>
My name there is 'clow' btw.
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On July 28 2009 10:54 Eti307 wrote: Great games with Kgosi tonight, we didnt lose once! ggs!
next time let's try and get a full team that would be even better :D
Definitely some great games. What a huge change from being with the random pubbers. I too think the TL clan would be a great idea. In my opinion we should just do that asap.
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Im all up for this, name is Vequeth in game, sadly no headset for voice yet because im saving up for that new razer one.
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Anyone playing tonight? I'll get on at around 6pm EST
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I´ll probably be online then Eti
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Can somebody give me a beta key? I don't know how it works, but my friend got one from somebody in beta, so I guess maybe some of you have spare keys to give out.
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Im playing right now! And probably will be playing tonight too.
Game name: Khaymus
Hit me up if you want to play!
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God. Damn. Zephyr is a SEXY carry-beast. How-to:
courier+shield+runes. 1-7 lane, last hit as much as possible, do not die, courier in new runes if needed. 7-14 jungle like a mofo, heal with tornadoes before you enter a weak creep camp, remember to double-spawn creeps. 14+ buy mock of brilliance (should be around minute 22), keep farming and join team battles. Get survivability from items as you see fit. Headress if they are caster-heavy, shrunken head if they have bloodhunter (to counter silence), helm of the black legion for melees, behemoth's for all-purpose, the usual stuff.
Tank, outlevel, outfarm, win.
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Hey I was in the channel earlier but nobody was active. My name is iNCuBuS on there. I went 2-3-9 in my first game as "zeus" so I think I did alright. Its tough getting used to that item layout and such when you're so used to DotA.
In my first attempt at joining a game they kicked me because I was either newb (is anyone who plays the beta for HoN a newb? I mean, Im sure most of the people have played DotA and thus know how to play...) or an account remake lol
Overall it was fun though
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well the people in the channel can be ingame as well (when they have that little HoN logo besides the name)
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Won my first game, as "Rikimaru"
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I'm playing quite a bit when I have time. At least a few times a week. I'm TSRupbar @ HoN. Thanks for adding me!
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I'm "nandeezy" on HoN. I also have some beta invites if anybody is interested.
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There are maybe 5-6 people in TeamLiquid channel right now, we're trying to put a team together. Good time to come online I guess. 
EDIT: TL.net 5 x 0 pubs!
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nerf_me_plz < HoN Nick
Add me if you want a game :p
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also, im x01 (yeah x zero one) on HoN.
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People please PM me if you want to be added to the list.
In other news fantastic games tonight ! Thanks Eti, Zazen and Sethrod !
Still no loss for Team Liquid.
Edit:
5 wins and 0 losses tonight !
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Oh geez, I dont want to join you guys in case you get your first loss with me on the team  Might hop on shortly for a game before bed.
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I plan to stay up till around 5ish est to try and see if I can stick around for the patch to help create a clan or something.
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Dont worry iNCuBuS_ the original intention was to make a friendly little channel where everyone can jump in and play, no matter what the skill level is
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Northern Ireland22207 Posts
Still waiting on patch for clan support
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Patch tiiiiiiime. Looks like it crashed the servers aswell.
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ggs guys, gtg now chat's down
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yeah gg, gotta wait for patch update before logging back in
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Trying to connect in and patch, servers are very messed up. Trying to get back in. GG's. 
EDIT: Finally downloading patch. 8% of 250-ish MB's.
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Bah i finally got home and was going to play a round! Now I cant
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patch is done for me, but chat servers aren't back up. I'll go make something to eat
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Add ItsPaul, Slink and Steeliosis pls! My housemates and I are capped atm but we all will be playing as soon as the new month hits.
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Patching doesent seem to work for me at all
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patching was weird, the game resets like 5 times before it actually starts dling
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I get the install update window but then it just gets non responsive and crashes
Edit:
Got it working..... 15-60 kbs...
Iceland f*ck yeah !
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It is acting weird. Don't worry. Servers *are* messed up. My DL restarted like 3 times already.
Do what you have to do now... those borings like eating and showering. When things are working again we'll set our TL pub stomping team to work. 
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I'm in, waiting for more ppl to connect so we can create the TL clan
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got my beta key yesterday, add me!
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Guess their servers exploded. 2kb/s.
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can someone of you who downloaded the patch upload it to RS or smth like that?
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coming in a few minutes^^
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I'll be on in a sec to create the clan. What will it be named? Just TeamLiquid with TL as tag?
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What is the name of the channel you guys are in? We should have a TL one!
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/join Clan Teamliquid
Please edit OP to include this.
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who has an extra beta key that they can spare? i need one!!!!!
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nerium
Go to your facebook and add them quick they are gonna give away a key to all facebook fans.
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Ok this is pretty bugged, we couldn't pick TL as it was already taken (WTF IS THIS SHIT) so we took TLn.
Right now some ppl are invited but didn't join for some weird reason Hopefully it will get fixed soon
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yeah it looks like you can't join the clan after it's made
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I'd like a clan promotion. I mean, I founded the charter and I can even invite people
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Oh cool, looks like there's a lot of people here who play HoN. I only started playing it recently with no prior dota experience, so a lot of those pub players have been pretty bitchy about all sorts of things. I'll join the channel sometime.
(Been lurking TL up till now)
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Really that bad?
The 4-5 games I've played, people have been pretty friendly. I'll just say that I'm a noob, and they'll just tell me where to go, and what to watch out for.
Ofc, I have my little brother who's played DOTA for mannny hours, and can just tell me what to do.
~_~
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On July 30 2009 10:57 Eti307 wrote: Ok this is pretty bugged, we couldn't pick TL as it was already taken (WTF IS THIS SHIT) so we took TLn. Why not TL- or something, the n looks weird, where's it from?
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Okay, I've changed my mind. The gfx are starting to really annoy me. Too over the top bright lights and glossiness. It's hard to see what's even going on. Some of the effects are just plain silly. Like cyclone? It literally looks like a gigantic tornado sitting in the middle of the screen. And you can't even tell the footprint of it to surround the guy because it's so huge. Lots of issues like that where instead of focusing on gameplay, they focused on making stuff look ridiculous epic.
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That's why it's a beta, you should raise that issue in the forum.
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DotA death=major rage Having to wait to respawn is ZZZZZZZZ that's why I BM anyways, and cuz its fun x.x
I've been playing HoN and its pretty fun :D hit up Toxiferous if u need a filler for a game
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I reckon we should rename this topic to follow a certain trend 
[HoN] Let's Play~!!!!!
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On July 30 2009 17:57 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2009 10:57 Eti307 wrote: Ok this is pretty bugged, we couldn't pick TL as it was already taken (WTF IS THIS SHIT) so we took TLn. Why not TL- or something, the n looks weird, where's it from? 
because you can only pick from the alphabet :/
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On July 30 2009 14:48 Railz wrote:I'd like a clan promotion. I mean, I founded the charter and I can even invite people 
you are a founding member you should be able to invite/kick
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my name on there is stixxr pretty high player. keep getting beat by organised teams though (beat an organised team with a pub earlier today 5 clan players vs 5 random pub)
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On July 30 2009 22:39 Eti307 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2009 14:48 Railz wrote:I'd like a clan promotion. I mean, I founded the charter and I can even invite people  you are a founding member you should be able to invite/kick
It seems kinda bugged I couldn't invite or kick this morning.
On a side note: I join a All Random game this morning and got Valkyrie shes quite nice actually
On a even bigger side note: Happy Birthday Eti !
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On July 31 2009 00:34 Kgosi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2009 22:39 Eti307 wrote:On July 30 2009 14:48 Railz wrote:I'd like a clan promotion. I mean, I founded the charter and I can even invite people  you are a founding member you should be able to invite/kick It seems kinda bugged I couldn't invite or kick this morning. On a side note: I join a All Random game this morning and got Valkyrie shes quite nice actually On a even bigger side note: Happy Birthday Eti !
also puppet masters agi got buffed with this patch, which i find slightly hilarious as he's so strong already
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anyone playing right now? I'm OmgIRok on HoN
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On July 30 2009 17:41 Thesecretaznman wrote: Really that bad?
The 4-5 games I've played, people have been pretty friendly. I'll just say that I'm a noob, and they'll just tell me where to go, and what to watch out for.
Ofc, I have my little brother who's played DOTA for mannny hours, and can just tell me what to do.
~_~
There are some games that are ok, but there are also many that have these stuck-up players who insult the team or specific players for not being useful and whatnot. They even do it in NOOB ONLY games -_-
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I think it's just the nature of the game, beause it's so team oriented people will explode at someone who fails the team
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Keep in mind clan support in this game is still very bugged, as they just introduced it in the new patch. I was able to invite a couple of people to the TL clan last night, logged out, and when I came back, I couldn't.
I right-clicked on people and the "Invite to clan" option was simply gone! :S So I'm not really sure what I should be doing for invites now...
I'm gonna be going out tonight to drink with my friends, but in maybe 2 hours I'll be online to play a couple of games. Hope to see you all soon. I'm starting to pick my AoS skill up again... which is still pretty crappy, but usually enough to carry my entire pub team through most games, haha...
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so guys I'm clearly not on the same level as everyone lol.
I'll need training
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Thanks for the organised I was a part of last night and for inviting me to the team, Eti. I had a great time turning that game around. Looking forward to some inhouse games over the weekend!
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On July 31 2009 09:37 Eti307 wrote: so guys I'm clearly not on the same level as everyone lol.
I'll need training sif that's an issue
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edit: apparently im dumb
p.s. new patch is out
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Man I just played a 3v3 darkwood vale and its actually pretty fun. Quite a refreshing experience from 5v5s.
Btw I'm MCPC
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Yup Darkwood Vale is a great map. And btw they add channels for clan wars ! So I'm hoping we can do some of those
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I love this game. I'll play any time I'm on and I'd love to join the clan.
My username is Wellness.
I've had a great experience with the players so far. Everyone I've played with have been friendly. Huge differance from DotA, I really feel that the voice chat is making people more polite. They don't feel as anonymous - in text anyone can call anyone a cocksucker but only few people actually pronounce the words. I've been doing good though (only played 4 games but I've got some nice stats, 48 kills, 11 deaths) so I guess there hasn't been a reason to hate on me.
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I'm interested. Account name is "metashdw". I'll meet up in the channel.
Just got my key and played my first game, and did horribly
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I joined up the other day my account is Grouty
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My account is Emeriel in HoN as well. I'd like to play with some friendly people.
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Hi, my name is "Drunken_Jedi" in HoN. I'll check out your channel next time I'm playing.
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I was wondering if we should take this entire thing to the next stage and start playing some dates and times for inhouse games.
Yes No ?
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My username is Touched and I'ld like to join.
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dl2agon
United States473 Posts
God, the noobs in this game are worse than the ones in Dota..
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mmm I play some Dota but I'm having trouble learning all the new items in the game :l I'll be a huge burden to any team I play on so could anyone like play a few games with me so I can learn the new names for everything :l
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On August 08 2009 06:43 dl2agon wrote: God, the noobs in this game are worse than the ones in Dota.. Why? I'm a noob
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I'd like to join also  Tuke @ hon, you could add me
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On August 08 2009 06:43 dl2agon wrote: God, the noobs in this game are worse than the ones in Dota..
That's prolly because some of the beta people aren't from DotA. Everyone has to start somewhere!
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woo learning's easy :D can I join the clan? My username is ParallelDays bonus pic woo :O
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I got this installed. My name is 'Beesuit' and I'll be playing later when I get home from school.
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Anybody got 2 extra keys they can throw here? =(
Gaewww@gmail.com.
SankCue
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I have yet to lose a single game on HoN. The beta is full of scrubs who either suck at DOTA or have never played it.
By the way it's disgusting how this game has ripped off Icefrog's years of hardwork.
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On August 11 2009 07:21 FREEloss_ca wrote: I have yet to lose a single game on HoN. The beta is full of scrubs who either suck at DOTA or have never played it.
By the way it's disgusting how this game has ripped off Icefrog's years of hardwork.
Isn't the PURPOSE of HoN to be an upgraded version of DotA? (It was also approved by Icefrog.)
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On August 11 2009 07:21 FREEloss_ca wrote: I have yet to lose a single game on HoN. The beta is full of scrubs who either suck at DOTA or have never played it.
By the way it's disgusting how this game has ripped off Icefrog's years of hardwork.
Just like how icefrog ripped off pendragon and guinsoo? which in turn ripped off everything when they made it all-stars? give me a break, icefrog gave S2 clearance to use the dota concept and heroes a long time ago. they took over and will evolve the concept just like icefrog did with pendragon and guinsoos work.
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On August 11 2009 07:28 Thesecretaznman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2009 07:21 FREEloss_ca wrote: I have yet to lose a single game on HoN. The beta is full of scrubs who either suck at DOTA or have never played it.
By the way it's disgusting how this game has ripped off Icefrog's years of hardwork. Isn't the PURPOSE of HoN to be an upgraded version of DotA? (It was also approved by Icefrog.)
Indeed it is. I'm still surprised so many people don't get that.
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w00t, got a BETA key thanks to ZoW, and I started playing last week. I was never really into DotA that much, but I started to play both games now. My handle is zoLo in the game.
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I never really liked DotA, but I'm starting to like the engine of this game. Will probably be playing this during my Friday and Saturday nights :D
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please add me to clan., my HoN ID is omninmo
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Aaaaaaaagh I keep leaving the clan by accident... happened twice =_=
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I´ll invite you when I get back home from Work
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Mind throwing me an invite as well? Just started today. I'm a long time Dota player but not really active in gaming these days.
HoN ID: RandomAbuse
Played like 3 games, trying to get used to the environment and the heroes. Seems like a fairly well done and polished game.
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I'm around in the channel sometimes. Same name as on the forums.
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I'd be interested in playing with you guys, as I always seem to be stuck with the bad pubs who think SnY and Vanguard are good items. Playing with a coordinated team would be a lot more fun ;D.
edit: ID = Agoraphobia
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I just /j TeamLiquid
no ones online. D:
Guess i'll sign on at another time and join the clan
oh and is it just me or does alt tabbing crash the game? -_- its so annoying for me
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On August 13 2009 23:17 OmgIRok wrote: I just /j TeamLiquid
no ones online. D:
Guess i'll sign on at another time and join the clan
oh and is it just me or does alt tabbing crash the game? -_- its so annoying for me alt tabbing works fine for me. you should report it though.
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it's /j clan TeamLiquid iirc.
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yeah it's clan Teamliquid
for those who want invites for the clan throw me a PM with your ingame name and i'll add you when I get off work
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I'm going to join this as well, played with a couple really nice guys from TL the other night. My handle is HeyitsKenny
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Wohoo I'll join you guys when I get home.
Yesterday I played one match, it's very unfriendly to newbies. Had good teammates, but noobs as me. The other team seemed to play better, because they ganked in pairs but I managed to kill 4-5 dudes.
We lost, but I had fun except at then when they vastly overpowered us with levels and items.
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i would like 2 keys if possible, one fo rme and my bro.
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I finally got back home some days ago and got invite from friend.
Most pub players didn't buy boots only in beginning and spammed way less than in most of my DotA games, which was pleasantly suprising.
Only problem I have with this is the rare occurance of some weird error with my video card that gives black screen for awhile, and of course I still have trouble finding some items after only a few games.
ID:NeonTech Maybe we'll have some games later. 
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Sweet!! Ill be sure to join this. :D
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Does anybody know about a site or something that just lists out the best items for each character? I want to do random till I learn all the characters but I get fucked by not knowing which items are best for a certain character. I've learned a lot just guessing and failing over and over, but it'd be nice to find a place that just tells you what you should get.
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Since they're just remake heroes of DotA, you can check dota hero guides for item builds.
Edit: I just realized i never really answered your question. You can try looking through these
http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=33844
(use 159Hello//123123 [courtesy of bugmenot] to log in)
The HoN forums has a list that says which HoN is to which DoTA hero, as well as items too I think, but some of the guides list items by their names rather than icons, so you may have trouble...
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There are guides for heroes on the Heroes of Newerth forums.
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On August 15 2009 11:39 Meta wrote: Does anybody know about a site or something that just lists out the best items for each character? I want to do random till I learn all the characters but I get fucked by not knowing which items are best for a certain character. I've learned a lot just guessing and failing over and over, but it'd be nice to find a place that just tells you what you should get.
I've found the perfect thread for this:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=2788
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Add Kimmural If anyone wants to play with me.
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Zephyr; THE ULTIMATE TANK D:
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On August 16 2009 02:29 Railz wrote: Zephyr; THE ULTIMATE TANK D:
Shut up and vote for Dan. :D
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can anyone add me to the team? name is Beesuit.
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Ill throw you an invite next time your online.
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add me also plz. name is anch got my invite in blackcat-games
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just come to the channel when you are online and ask there someone will add you.
You have to be online to be invited
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for anyone with login problems, type "ipconfig /flushdns" in the windows command line. Chat servers won't work but at least you can play
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i've been playing this game its awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeee :O name is h3xagram
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Did anyone pre-order the game? I certainly did, I already played way more than 30 hours in the beta so far, so for me 30$ is a good deal.
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I'll just buy it on retail. I've managed to squeeze in 250 games, jeez. That's about 125 hours already, just in the beta alone. Such a good game.
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i find it so much easier to last hit in this game than in dota lol
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yea we watched sc2 battles, i hope u didnt miss them ^^
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Wow 1-13 ally first game I play (and it was a 2v2 too lol) Anyone playing? Add HelpImDying somehow
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add me to clan ^^
IGN - Xech
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I'll be online tomorrow as soon as I get home, come to the channel Clan Teamliquid if I see you in there without a clan tag I'll invite you guys
They really need to implement offline invites
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I really don't have time to play this game, but it turns out I have 3 invites. Just toss me a PM and I'll send you an invite
edit: all out. if I get more, i'll post once more!
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Add me to the clan I am FragKrag on HoN
let me bash u fags silly
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Add me to clan, I am Dgtl :D
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alright... I know how to deny/last-hit... what else is there? Is HoN close enough to dota that dota pros dominate?
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On August 25 2009 11:36 mcgriddle wrote: alright... I know how to deny/last-hit... what else is there? Is HoN close enough to dota that dota pros dominate? Pretty much, a lot of it is learning which heroes correspond to which heroes in DOTA though
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just played, thanks to D10 <3 and it was surprisingly fun. I was never pro at dota (lol) so I kind of really sucked but we won anyways. the graphics are nice, the items are a bit overwhelming initially but nothing you don't get used to. I guess i should go read Build orders for heroes before i dive in a again, so i don't disgrace my team.
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I'd like an invite to the clan and i promise i wont be killing much, but i might die a bit at times, atleast for now.
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On August 25 2009 18:18 Etherone wrote: just played, thanks to D10 <3 and it was surprisingly fun. I was never pro at dota (lol) so I kind of really sucked but we won anyways. the graphics are nice, the items are a bit overwhelming initially but nothing you don't get used to. I guess i should go read Build orders for heroes before i dive in a again, so i don't disgrace my team.
If you have any questions about items you could always ask someone in the clan. I'm sure at least one person would be willing you help you out! /c m for clan messaging
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some general item suggestions and thoughts base on my own experience, since i feel that I have a pretty good idea on item builds:
first of all, choose your items to compensate your character's weaknesses as well as making use of your strengths, which means:
1. If you're a carry( which usually means a strong lategame/high damage hero) go for DAMAGE items and survivabilty items only early game. your char is not supposed to take loads of damage, but to deal it. For example hack&slash for melee agi heros is usually bad, unless you died a few times early game and can't farm gold properly. When I play a carry I like to either get 2 bracers, a hood or a helm (depending on the opponent's team setup) early on for survival and then go straight damage items. However, I'm a big fan of assassin's shround and shrunken head, since both items give you damage as well as a lot of survivabilty.
2. never ever get riftshard/flayer if your char as built-in crit, don't get runed axe with hammerstorm who has a built-in cleave and so on. If you have built-in crit like madman/scout, get pure damage items, however if your char has a damage modifier like puppet, arachna, crit items are a good idea.
3. if you play a supporter, itemize him as such. Astroblade, guardian ring/ring of the sorcerer are usually good for healers/supporters, also a portal key is usually strong if you're a disabler/stunner like pollywog or glacius. On the other hand, there are some "support" heroes like jereziah or demented shaman that can carry as well, because they can farm money easily. So if your team doesn't really need you to support, but needs to deal more damage, don't hesitate to get damage items with them.
4. for lategame, try to adjust your items based on what your hero/team has the most problems with. If the opponents have a lot of strong melee heroes, get frostfield plate, if they have one overfarmed guy killing your whole team, sheep stick works best. If you're a carry but get focused by all of them, either get more hp or a shrunken head and so on.
As i said, these are just tips that USUALLY are good, but there are always exceptions, since their's an infinite number of situations, just keep in mind to adjust your items based on the game situation and don't desperatly try to farm an item just because it worked well in a previous game.
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sup guys been playing dota for about 4 years now and finally got an beta key to HoN Add me if you want to play. Will also join channel after I get home from school 
Acc: Afsum
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I have 3 beta keys and no one to give them to. First 3 people to PM their emails will get one, even people with no posts or 1-2. Everyone's gotta start somewhere, right?
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I've never played dota, but I'd like to learn to play this... add me to clan? name: Motiva
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Yo, I've played for about a year or so... still getting use to the new shop format and the slightly modified hero set... add me if you guys want to play some decent games together!
ign: Fizik
will try to contact one of you to get in on the clan
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On August 25 2009 12:53 HnR)Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2009 11:36 mcgriddle wrote: alright... I know how to deny/last-hit... what else is there? Is HoN close enough to dota that dota pros dominate? Pretty much, a lot of it is learning which heroes correspond to which heroes in DOTA though  here you go : http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=653 pretty much tells which heroes are similar compared to dota
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I'm having log in issues what gives?
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Just come to channel clan teamliquid when you're online to play with us
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add me please morethantwo thx
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Hmm, just played a couple of these and am officially addicted.
IGN: Belial_ add me please 
Thanks in advance.
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Nothing wrong with posting here I guess, but you're only likely to play with us if you actually come to clan teamliquid when we're there It's a pain setting stuff up with people otherwise.
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I'm down for some games tonight. It's so hard playing in pubs with feeders.
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I'd join but I'm a total newb, never even played dota. I'll get better and join
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Need a key to try out the game! If anyone has any to spare an invite would be greatly appreciated!!
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Bleah, 2nd "Leaver" game b/c of server crash -.- (Well, I'm assuming this will count as a leave)
I have 2 keys to give, but I won't give it to anyone with < 1000 posts unless I recognize your name :O
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I might be interested in that key, but it would be for a very good DotA-player friend.
Would that be okay? I just wanna make sure that he is going to actively play HoN, though, so it won't be wasted.
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do you recognize my name? :O
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I need to get some games in this weekend with decent people. My PSR is sitting around 1400 because I keep playing with bads.
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I suck so bad is anyone down to play?
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Hey Eti can you promote me (HelpImDying) to clan admin or something? We seem to overall lack active leaders of the clan to add people ~_~ Or whoever has access to do that
Just /join clan teamliquid Most people will be amenable to playing if you're there
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firstly Peter is bad ^^ second I'd also like to be promoted if possible -->Grouty
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On September 08 2009 13:32 HnR)Insane wrote:Hey Eti can you promote me (HelpImDying) to clan admin or something? We seem to overall lack active leaders of the clan to add people ~_~ Or whoever has access to do that Just /join clan teamliquid Most people will be amenable to playing if you're there 
yeah I will tonight. Seems like Chilly and Zazen have gone inactive lately so yeah time for some officer changes :D
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On September 05 2009 00:18 drakkon wrote: I need to get some games in this weekend with decent people. My PSR is sitting around 1400 because I keep playing with bads.
haha same with me. The worst is I play way better in random games than with tl people hahaha it's weird.
My guess is only good player stays in the game when they see 4-5 people from the same clan, or that we always end up with the biggest newbie ever as a filler.
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i had it as high as 1810 but lost like 5 strait. now sitting at 1730ish.
you guys definitely should join our inners. haha.
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by the way Jereziah = lol.
when a teams doesn't know how to shut him down it's so hard to win team fights against him lol.
I went 12-1-11 with him last night. I'm starting to really love support characters (demented shaman was awesome as well)
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On September 09 2009 00:17 Eti307 wrote: by the way Jereziah = lol.
when a teams doesn't know how to shut him down it's so hard to win team fights against him lol.
I went 12-1-11 with him last night. I'm starting to really love support characters (demented shaman was awesome as well)
I like Swiftblade more, especially in nub games. Got 42 Kills, 1 Death in two "noob" games last night. When I hit 25, most were still 14 average, with the second highest as 17.
Nub stomping is fun!!!
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On September 09 2009 03:55 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2009 00:17 Eti307 wrote: by the way Jereziah = lol.
when a teams doesn't know how to shut him down it's so hard to win team fights against him lol.
I went 12-1-11 with him last night. I'm starting to really love support characters (demented shaman was awesome as well) I like Swiftblade more, especially in nub games. Got 42 Kills, 1 Death in two "noob" games last night. When I hit 25, most were still 14 average, with the second highest as 17. Nub stomping is fun!!! That's like, impossible on noneasy mode >:o
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Add me pls. Medicsarehot. no i'm not the real medicsarehot if anyone remembers. one of my friends made the account. I've never palyed dota so i'm new to this style game. but i'm picking up pretty quickly. Defiler is so awesome. i die alot though i'm workin on that.
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On September 10 2009 14:12 GhostKorean wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2009 03:55 Fishball wrote:On September 09 2009 00:17 Eti307 wrote: by the way Jereziah = lol.
when a teams doesn't know how to shut him down it's so hard to win team fights against him lol.
I went 12-1-11 with him last night. I'm starting to really love support characters (demented shaman was awesome as well) I like Swiftblade more, especially in nub games. Got 42 Kills, 1 Death in two "noob" games last night. When I hit 25, most were still 14 average, with the second highest as 17. Nub stomping is fun!!! That's like, impossible on noneasy mode >:o A friend of mine went 39-0 today with Scout
Ridiculous
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Any idea on how to get a beta key? :S
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On September 11 2009 11:27 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2009 14:12 GhostKorean wrote:On September 09 2009 03:55 Fishball wrote:On September 09 2009 00:17 Eti307 wrote: by the way Jereziah = lol.
when a teams doesn't know how to shut him down it's so hard to win team fights against him lol.
I went 12-1-11 with him last night. I'm starting to really love support characters (demented shaman was awesome as well) I like Swiftblade more, especially in nub games. Got 42 Kills, 1 Death in two "noob" games last night. When I hit 25, most were still 14 average, with the second highest as 17. Nub stomping is fun!!! That's like, impossible on noneasy mode >:o A friend of mine went 39-0 today with Scout Ridiculous But it's impossible to be 8 levels above everyone else :l if your friend went 39-0 with scout everyone was a nub imo
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scout is shit around the 1700 psr level.
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On September 11 2009 12:12 iLoveKT wrote: scout is shit around the 1700 psr level. Scout sucks outside the "Noobs only" games
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On September 11 2009 12:45 GhostKorean wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2009 12:12 iLoveKT wrote: scout is shit around the 1700 psr level. Scout sucks outside the "Noobs only" games
Scout sucks.
I play in noob only games, and I'm becoming the best player in those games the more I play, but the gap isn't huge. The scout is annoying, but he is almost never a threat.
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Scout plain sucks. His main ability is to be able to place wards, that cost 200 gold normally.
If someone went 39-0 with any hero the other guys must: a) suck b) not know how to play c) not know how to concede
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I got owned even in "Noobs only". Discuss.
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On September 11 2009 21:58 nayumi wrote: I got owned even in "Noobs only". Discuss. It usually gets better once you stop being bad.
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Only played one game and got killed quite a lot, it's pretty fun though, but hard to understand since i've never played DotA.
I also have two beta keys to give away, if you have been registered 2 months after me or before me send me a PM
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Hey, long time dota player just recently got a key. GN: DoYouHas Add me plz
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i dont know wtf your talking about but scout is awesome! best hero in the game imo :D
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On September 12 2009 15:19 DoYouHas wrote: Hey, long time dota player just recently got a key. GN: DoYouHas Add me plz
wut! Testie will rage V_V
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I don't rage at everything. And fuck Testie! ;p
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Is it just me or the server is down?
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On September 12 2009 19:57 iLoveKT wrote: its just you. Yea figured out it was my pos connection ... I'm staying in a fucking condo so I have no choice but to use this stupid fucking ISP ...
sorry for the rage ... unstable internet connection annoys me so much ...
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Hey if anyone has an extra key please PM it my way. Thanks.
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So ill be up to play :D I'm `_UniQuE_` @ HoN hope to play some games soon <3
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fffffuuuuu I joined a friend's clan over this
oh well
my K:D ratio is 0.4:1 lolol
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if anyone could spare me a beta key please.. i would really appreciate it.. thanks email: ralph_mp16@yahoo.com
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Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games?
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On September 14 2009 19:47 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games?
wow that is pretty sick, and i thought the 4:1 ratio i saw today was amazing.
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On September 14 2009 19:47 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games?
Playing carry with a really good support team. It's impossible to get in pubs since your team will always make sure you end up dead in half the team fights just for good measure.
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On September 14 2009 22:03 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2009 19:47 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games? Playing carry with a really good support team. It's impossible to get in pubs since your team will always make sure you end up dead in half the team fights just for good measure.
Or if you're very good and playing against some pub noobs. I've seen people go 51-0 in DotA, why it should be any different in HoN?
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well in pub HoN ull never get near 51-0 since the opposing team would have conceded long ago
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Also once you hit 1900+ you will usually play vs teams and/or players who play competitive dota. Of course the psr is stilled flawed and you will see newbs at any rating, but it's still different from Dota, where you can pubstomp all you like
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or if it's anything like DOTA everyone on your pub team will pick a carry with shit lane control/early game and wonder why the team gets rolled 25 minutes in ^_^
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yeah usually scout first pick = auto lose
newbies seems to love scout even if he's so bad. They don't even use the free wards which is his most useful skill by far
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meh maybe one day I'd try HoN. Is there a chart somewhere that shows what hero is what to it's DOTA counterpart? Or an AI map? It took me forever to get "decent pub level" in DOTA and I just can't imagine how long it would take in HoN.
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yes there is in the beta forum. (you can access it once you're in the beta)
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A friend of mine would like to play this too. So if anyone got a spare key, please hook me up through PM. Million thanks.
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I don't suppose anyone still has any keys unused? My friend is interested in playing, but I don't have any invites left ~_~ Got one, thanks Rebound
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I might get some when my friend finally decides to pre-order my game =_=
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Anyone here who has extra beta key for HoN please email it at theblaze28@yahoo.com.ph thnx
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On September 14 2009 19:47 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games? that's like 19/2.7/12 K/D/A per game. how is that remotely possible in HoN? Most pub stomp ends up in 15 minutes concede or is there high level clan-wars going on in HoN too.
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On September 15 2009 18:05 Hyaach wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2009 19:47 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games? that's like 19/2.7/12 K/D/A per game. how is that remotely possible in HoN? Most pub stomp ends up in 15 minutes concede or is there high level clan-wars going on in HoN too.
lol no you're thinking of easy mode where who ever farms faster can become imbalanced in 15minutes. 15 minutes in real games things are about to pick up.
there are a lot of retards playing though, and i don't mean noobs i mean people who are mentally challenged, who although are horrible at the game go out of their way to insult everyone else and make the gaming experience generally much worse.
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that happens on Garena too. I'm sure HoN has NOTHING on Garena lamers. They are so out of control it's damn right infuriating at times :/
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On September 15 2009 18:05 Hyaach wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2009 19:47 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Yesterday I saw a guy from MyM with something like 1900/275/1200 K/D/A which is just absurd. How do you get a 7:1 k/d ratio i a game like dota over 100 games? that's like 19/2.7/12 K/D/A per game. how is that remotely possible in HoN? Most pub stomp ends up in 15 minutes concede or is there high level clan-wars going on in HoN too.
well I'm thinking that if he's only playing with his MyM team and he plays a ganker/carry it's entirely possible.
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I saw a group yesterday ... they were 4 ... sended 1 in team 1 and the 3 others were in team 2.
The player in team 1 was calling our spot in german and was feeding players from team 2 ... Also buying item and droping them to the other team ...
This is 1 cheap way to raise someone psr ... he they do this on every game ... 1 dummy account that sacrifice 20 death per game
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Sorry if off topic but I got a few questions. I was showing this game to my friend who plays a lot of dota. And he for whatever reason decided in his mind that they probably paid off icefrog to make their game because a lot of the units and items are the same.
I told him, that if anything Blizzard would be paid since they own all rights to maps within their games, But most likely they recruited him for help in balance and design which is not the same as paying someone for taking their original idea. (because iirc blizzard hired on icefrog for map creation and dota remakes in sc2).
Further trying to argue my point he basically said I was crazy for thinking that he could make a map called his name and then blizzard would own it.
As I understand it, they kept a lot of the same shit but changed all the names so they avoid all copyright infringement.
So if I made a game that was totally different and called it dota that would be an infringement and likewise, if I made a game that played the same/similar with a different name I don't infringe anything (from a law perspective anyways).
PS- Afaik, icefrog wasn't paid anything for original dota (maybe just donations and ads on his site or whatever). And blizzard hired him freelance for sc2. So it's not like he has made any money directly from dota anyways, so why would they (HoN) need to pay him off?
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I don't think they paid him off. My understanding is that they asked him if he was OK with it, and he said yes. Your friend is wrong anyway, he won't 'own' his maps he makes.
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They just asked for his permission. Icefrog has nothing directly to do with the development of HoN other then changes he makes in DoTA being implemented in HoN.
S2 doesn't plan to follow DoTA exactly in the future though.
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Hey add me >> Tbakez in HON
Let me know other accounts so I can add you. I have not played Dota, but I got like 300 games for Hon. I can help you out if you need advice.
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just wanted to add this thing from the beta key disclaimer
You are about to play a stand alone DotA based game. We have asked IceFrog if he had any objections to this and he did not, he is ok with it. Heroes of Newerth contains both content very similiar to DOTA and brand new content of S2 Games' creation. We wanted to take a moment to share with you why it is very important you do not share this information with anyone, and to give some insight as to why we chose to create Heroes of Newerth: 1. At S2, we're huge fans of DOTA, and were pained to see how it was being held back on the warcraft 3 engine. DOTA style gameplay deserves a stand alone game so competition can be taken to the next level. As a MOD, DOTA faces many obstacles and boundaries that a stand alone title like Heroes of Newerth does not. 2. We also felt that the experience of playing and finding DOTA games online could use some drastic improvement. With HoN, there are many features and tools to make playing online (both with friends and by yourself) a much easier and more enjoyable experience. Your position as testers will help us perfect and fine tune these features, as well as allow us to see how they perform under various conditions. Our first portion of testing is to see the installer in action on multiple system configurations and to test our Master Server & Chat Server with multiple game loads. Please keep your feedback accurate and concise. We hope you enjoy the beta and help us make HoN as awesome as it deserves to be!  Please direct any questions you may have to the beta forum. With that said, thank you for helping us polish HoN and we look forward to all your input. Thanks, The S2 Team
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would love to play some HoN if anyone has remaining keys, email is fe.fcnz@gmail.com
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frankbg if no one sent you a key yet send me a pm I will try to hook you up
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Anyone have a spare key? I have a LoL friend invite :|
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I have just installed and shit but I can't get a game list to populate nor can I create a game. Anyone know what ports to open or whatever?
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Also looking for a key, I really hate begging for something, but I love Dota so much, I can't help myself.
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Hey everyone. I was just wondering if the TLn guys are doing organized games or anything like that since I was invited to the clan but I haven't had the chance with a TL group, and that's why I wanted to join :p
I'm DrOoo on HoN and I am always on the TLn Channel so if anyone could pm me or say something in the chat when you guys are about to start some organized games that would be awsomesauce.
My PSR is trash and not like kidding trash either, it's under 1100 so go figure. But I am nowhere near as bad as my PSR makes it look (but I'm nowhere near pro either) I'm sure that if we use voicecomm I will do fine. I love playing support classes, Jereziah is my fav so far.
P.S. Does anyone know how to fix the issue with Vista 64 and the mic sound being extremely low even at full volume? It works fine without sound drivers but after installing the audio drivers the mic is pretty much useless.
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OK, I want to play this game.... but I don't want it to ruin my GPA this semester.
Any advice?
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so if you have a key, you can invite people? how does it work @_@
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I want a beta key plsssssssssssssssssssssssss
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they finally added recommended items! my biggest beef with the game. Now I am slightly addicted, guess ill play this til SC2 comes =[
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Not to mention most games are actually kinda short. If they are too one-sided, one team usually concedes within 20 minutes. I like that, no waiting 60 minute bullshit like in DOTA.
ive played about 5 games in 3 hours, thats fun.
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Someone give me a beta key please!
Donate por favor.
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On September 20 2009 06:45 Skyze wrote: Not to mention most games are actually kinda short. If they are too one-sided, one team usually concedes within 20 minutes. I like that, no waiting 60 minute bullshit like in DOTA.
ive played about 5 games in 3 hours, thats fun. Meh I've played tons of games that go on for 90 min + It gets really lame because most of the time it's one side refusing to concede
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yah thats lame, but 50% of the time (i just played abunch more games) people will agree to concede. its a crapshoot like always but least you have the option.
I won like 7 straight this morning, then just lost 6 in a row.. sighh. that Pudge (devourer) needs some serious fixing imo.
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fuck my life i suck so bad with everybody.
i like pyromancer though.
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Awesome, a TL clan! I'll try joining after they fix the chat.
On September 20 2009 13:07 Skyze wrote: I won like 7 straight this morning, then just lost 6 in a row.. sighh. that Pudge (devourer) needs some serious fixing imo. Yeah, devourers hook looks kind of off.
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I can get online but no connection or chat room or anything. Some kind of error going on
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Chat rooms been down for the past few hours CharlieMurphy. Doesn't stop me owning up random noob games.
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On September 20 2009 14:45 QQplay wrote:Awesome, a TL clan! I'll try joining after they fix the chat. Show nested quote +On September 20 2009 13:07 Skyze wrote: I won like 7 straight this morning, then just lost 6 in a row.. sighh. that Pudge (devourer) needs some serious fixing imo. Yeah, devourers hook looks kind of off.
It had too big of a range prior to like .42, then they fixed to almost having to be perfectly on top of it...which is just as bad. Pudges has like a 2 unit size leeway.
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Devourer looks like Patchwerk lol.
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Concede options are nice, but personally I'm enjoying League of Legends more right now since they actually bothered to try something new. HoN just makes me want to play... Dota again.
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but dota is inferior to this game in almost every way.
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Hey so I suck balls at dota and this game, mainly because of the random dice damage and constant unknown spells to figure out if I should fight or flight.
But aside from that, The thing that really deters me is how many fucking items and combos there are. So even If I just pick 1 hero and try to master him I get totally confused what to buy, where to buy it, and what it costs.
So can some translate this to me for accursed hero http://dotabestguides.com/?p=71
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On September 21 2009 10:13 CharlieMurphy wrote:Hey so I suck balls at dota and this game, mainly because of the random dice damage and constant unknown spells to figure out if I should fight or flight. But aside from that, The thing that really deters me is how many fucking items and combos there are. So even If I just pick 1 hero and try to master him I get totally confused what to buy, where to buy it, and what it costs. So can some translate this to me for accursed hero http://dotabestguides.com/?p=71 The HoN items it is telling you to get are post haste, puzzlebox, ring of sorcery, stormspirit, and for one build frostfield plate for the other astrolabe.
Hope that helps charlie
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With Accursed you can go the hp whore route. Getting enhanced marchers, shaman's headdress, this helm of something (randomly blocking 40 damage), behemoth heart, abyssal skull (mana, but can substitute with this new linken which would be awesome) and shrunken head. I did it the last time I played him (the game was rather long) and boy what fun I had I did 0 damage but the sole fact that the enemy team needed more than 5 minutes of 5 vs 1 battle to bring me down was pretty cool and allowed my team to safely push some lanes. I pushed one lane and they needed to stop me or I would go straight to the throne if unchecked and to stop me they needed 5 people so it took a lot of pressure off of my team.
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On September 21 2009 22:24 Manit0u wrote:With Accursed you can go the hp whore route. Getting enhanced marchers, shaman's headdress, this helm of something (randomly blocking 40 damage), behemoth heart, abyssal skull (mana, but can substitute with this new linken which would be awesome) and shrunken head. I did it the last time I played him (the game was rather long) and boy what fun I had  I did 0 damage but the sole fact that the enemy team needed more than 5 minutes of 5 vs 1 battle to bring me down was pretty cool and allowed my team to safely push some lanes. I pushed one lane and they needed to stop me or I would go straight to the throne if unchecked and to stop me they needed 5 people so it took a lot of pressure off of my team. You can do that with pudge too.. except pudge does damage D: (devourer)
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Awesome I got a beta key!
My user is rodelero2.
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On September 21 2009 22:41 wonkman wrote:You can do that with pudge too.. except pudge does damage D: (devourer)
I hate playing devourer so in my case you can't  Besides, I get only headdress and arcane ring on pudge since he doesn't need any more items.
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is HoN down? I cant login.
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On September 22 2009 01:38 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2009 22:41 wonkman wrote:On September 21 2009 22:24 Manit0u wrote: --- Director's Cut --- You can do that with pudge too.. except pudge does damage D: (devourer) I hate playing devourer so in my case you can't  Besides, I get only headdress and arcane ring on pudge since he doesn't need any more items.
What the fuck?
I'm going to murder you and every mother fucker in this thread.
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lol hullo testie
glad 2 c u playin sum hon
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LOL headdress and arcane ring on pudge almost as bad as MKB first on weaver
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On September 23 2009 19:36 Zelniq wrote: LOL headdress and arcane ring on pudge almost as bad as MKB first on weaver
Headdress in HoN = hood in DotA  And I dunno what's the name of arcane ring in HoN so I left it as it is.
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arcane ring's name in HoN is ring of sorcery Manit0u
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Here's some Trivia: I named the hood in DotA. (I beta tested.)
I play lots of HoN. So many hero remakes. ;( Maliken is rad. ;D
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I have to admit, I read headdress as Headdress of Regeneration for Pudge and was like "..."
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So, I PM one of those people in the TL channel on HoN, or send a PM over TL.net for the clan? =S
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On September 26 2009 07:02 Thesecretaznman wrote: So, I PM one of those people in the TL channel on HoN, or send a PM over TL.net for the clan? =S Ideally you find HelpImDying (aka me) or Eti307 online. If you can't find either of us online, I'm saying people can PM me here and I'll arrange to be online at a certain time
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So I figured out that Arachna was basically Drow Ranger (who is pretty much the only character I was half decent with in dota) and now I'm doing a lot better. And slither (hydra) plays a lot like Drow as well. So now I've got 2 picks besides Accursed.
Is Clinkz in yet?
And Cloak of whatever it is (Lothar's Edge) is fucking awesome especially if you have something-marchers (phase boots), constant speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
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Insane I havent seen you in like 2 weeks man. wassup?
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On September 26 2009 08:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: So I figured out that Arachna was basically Drow Ranger (who is pretty much the only character I was half decent with in dota) and now I'm doing a lot better. And slither (hydra) plays a lot like Drow as well. So now I've got 2 picks besides Accursed.
Is Clinkz in yet?
And Cloak of whatever it is (Lothar's Edge) is fucking awesome especially if you have something-marchers (phase boots), constant speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
Arachna is viper and slither is venomancer.
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On October 10 2009 03:07 Pacifist wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2009 08:24 CharlieMurphy wrote: So I figured out that Arachna was basically Drow Ranger (who is pretty much the only character I was half decent with in dota) and now I'm doing a lot better. And slither (hydra) plays a lot like Drow as well. So now I've got 2 picks besides Accursed.
Is Clinkz in yet?
And Cloak of whatever it is (Lothar's Edge) is fucking awesome especially if you have something-marchers (phase boots), constant speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed. Arachna is viper and slither is venomancer.
venomancer = hydra duh
and Viper is less like Arachna than Drow is. Only difference between Arach and Drow is the magic dispell/silence and the ult spider/+agi. The other 2 main abilities an attack that slows (with no bonus damage) ice/web and trueshot aura.
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wait phase boots go through the fissure?!??
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United States7166 Posts
no for christ's sakes what makes viper, viper, is his orb attack, which is exactly the same as arachna's. drow's frost arrows dont come close. you play arachna like you would a viper, except that arachna does more dmg and can carry as well
no enhanced marchers (phase boots) dont go through behemoth's fissure wtf
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here is my contribution to that thread lol
I was thinking about making another one showing how sometimes the pathing causes you to run backwards or something.
Or how devourer's arm will grab you on the way back even though you are dodging it and running wide and/or zig zagging.
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what the hell? how do you not get it? You never clicked a tree and had your hero run around some long route instead of going straight to it?
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United States4991 Posts
Yeah I've had it happen. I have not, however, had it happen in such a confusingly depicted manner
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how is that confusing at all? scout is right there in the trees when the bad pathing is telling you to walk right into his disarm and then he ults you as you run.
btw that was ur 3k post
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United States4991 Posts
Wow, what a waste of 3k Criticizing CharlieMurphy's drawing skills LOL
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United States4991 Posts
Huh? Why did you link to that, did you write it or something? It just looks like some generic random arachna guide to me?
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On October 10 2009 07:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:here is my contribution to that thread lol I was thinking about making another one showing how sometimes the pathing causes you to run backwards or something. Or how devourer's arm will grab you on the way back even though you are dodging it and running wide and/or zig zagging.
fantastic
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this one was pretty good
and this one lol
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I'm very intrested! Always wanted to play more "non-public" and learn more about the game. =D
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Interested, I just got the Beta key, so ill definitely be whispering you. IGN : Sigh`
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