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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 24 2009 21:56 GMT
#241
I would like to say the 2007 draft is overrated, besides Kevin Durant, Jeff Green and Al Horford. Greg Oden has yet to prove himself as the top pick (could be seen as a bust in the future) and the Florida team that won twice are nowhere to be seen besides already-named Horford. You can maybe include Joakim Noah because of his playoff games but otherwise nothing much form him either. And the only reason Mike Conley was such a high pick was because of Oden. He's become a better player with the Grizzlies last year but he might become replaced by Rubio, jajajajajaja.
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
June 24 2009 21:59 GMT
#242
I hate the Warriors. For Al Harrington we get two scrubs. Awesome.
Super serious.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 24 2009 22:12 GMT
#243
On June 25 2009 06:35 bdams19 wrote:
2002 has way too many big names for me to say its the worst...

Yao, Butler, Amare, Boozer, Tayshaun and to a lesser extent Nene and Salmons (who both had solid years this past season)


Big names doesn't always equal big talent though. Besides Yao, Amare, and Butler the other top 10 picks are pretty disgusting in terms of how long it took them to mature. Dunleavy and Nene just got "it" in the last 2 years. Gooden has been solid but never spectacular.

Boozer/Tayshaun isn't enough to save how bad this draft was imo because some of the other top picks just weren't all that great.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 24 2009 22:24 GMT
#244
Nene is good. =p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 24 2009 22:35 GMT
#245
On June 24 2009 07:43 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 06:55 oneofthem wrote:
dwight should train with olajuwon or something



He trains with Patrick Ewing, maybe not getting much out of it? I think D Howard's offensive game is alittle awkward looking

i know he trains with ewing. hakeem just has the better moves for an athletic guy like howard. he's not the lumbering kind of center, and playing like ewing will limit his game.

although you can give ewing credit for howard's defensive improvement.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
June 24 2009 22:40 GMT
#246
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Poll: Who would you take #2 if you were Grizzlies GM?
(Vote): Rubio
(Vote): Thabeet
(Vote): Harden
(Vote): Evans
(Vote): Curry

Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 24 2009 22:46 GMT
#247
First of all, anyone that picks Thabeet needs to be banned from this thread. Second, I don't think Curry is going to be a very good pro.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
June 24 2009 22:48 GMT
#248
I think this pick comes down to one question, Conley or Marc Gasol?

The Grizz are set at the 2 and 3 with Gay and Mayo and there isn't a worthwhile candidate here at the 4 so if comes down to a center or a point. The invested heavily to acquire both Gasol (pau) and Conley (#4 pick) and both are young enough that it would hurt to give up on them already.

If it were up to me, I'd have to go with a point here cuz I think that Gasol has more potential than Conley. Since the Grizz have such a promising 2 in Mayo, I would eliminate a combo guard like Evans from the mix so it would come down to Rubio/Curry. I love Curry and I think he'll be a tremendous offensive force in the NBA but if I were Grizz GM, I'd have to go with the playmaking abilities of Rubio to complement Gay and Mayo.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 24 2009 22:49 GMT
#249
On June 25 2009 07:46 Jibba wrote:
First of all, anyone that picks Thabeet needs to be banned from this thread. Second, I don't think Curry is going to be a very good pro.


You do realize Thabeet only started playing basketball in college right? Work in progress definitely, but its not like super high risk considering his development in college.
Get it by your hands...
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
June 24 2009 22:52 GMT
#250
On June 25 2009 07:46 Jibba wrote:
First of all, anyone that picks Thabeet needs to be banned from this thread. Second, I don't think Curry is going to be a very good pro.



I think Thabeet would be a great fit for the Thunder.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 24 2009 22:53 GMT
#251
Det picked Darko over wade and melo still is sooo sad
Never Knows Best.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 23:04:57
June 24 2009 23:01 GMT
#252
On June 25 2009 07:49 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 07:46 Jibba wrote:
First of all, anyone that picks Thabeet needs to be banned from this thread. Second, I don't think Curry is going to be a very good pro.


You do realize Thabeet only started playing basketball in college right? Work in progress definitely, but its not like super high risk considering his development in college.
He works on the college level because he's a foot taller than other Cs. He has no footwork and no understanding of positioning, especially on rebounds. He gets away with it because of size, but everyone is taller and a LOT stronger in the pros, and he'll amount to nothing.

It's not like we're talking about Tim Duncan's college development. I'm talking about his junior year, Thabeet did not look like he knew how to play basketball.

EDIT: As a side note, I look forward to all the posters he's going to be in.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 24 2009 23:08 GMT
#253
On June 25 2009 07:48 tenbagger wrote:
I love Curry and I think he'll be a tremendous offensive force in the NBA but if I were Grizz GM, I'd have to go with the playmaking abilities of Rubio to complement Gay and Mayo.

Unless teams are going to make him a pure PG, I'm not sure how that happens. He's on the low end of quickness so I'm not sure how he can put the ball on the floor in the NBA. Rip can't, but Rip is 6'7" and Curry is 6'3". He's one of those players with an illustrious college career, but not the type of game/body that works in the pros.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 24 2009 23:23 GMT
#254
On June 25 2009 06:59 Centric wrote:
I hate the Warriors. For Al Harrington we get two scrubs. Awesome.


Jamal Crawford you mean?
God Bless
72AND10
Profile Joined January 2009
United States93 Posts
June 24 2009 23:24 GMT
#255
When you say offensive force, do you consider allen iverson an offensive force? :D
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 23:27:47
June 24 2009 23:25 GMT
#256
i hope the lolknicks surprise the dismal expectation and pick lawson instead of curry. i don't know why people discount lawson more than curry in the college to nba transition argument. yea, lawson played in the unc system, curry took half of his team's shots. both of their counting stats are inflated. curry is more physically limited than lawson, and has shown less defensive promise.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 25 2009 00:12 GMT
#257
On June 25 2009 07:48 tenbagger wrote:
I think this pick comes down to one question, Conley or Marc Gasol?

The Grizz are set at the 2 and 3 with Gay and Mayo and there isn't a worthwhile candidate here at the 4 so if comes down to a center or a point. The invested heavily to acquire both Gasol (pau) and Conley (#4 pick) and both are young enough that it would hurt to give up on them already.

If it were up to me, I'd have to go with a point here cuz I think that Gasol has more potential than Conley. Since the Grizz have such a promising 2 in Mayo, I would eliminate a combo guard like Evans from the mix so it would come down to Rubio/Curry. I love Curry and I think he'll be a tremendous offensive force in the NBA but if I were Grizz GM, I'd have to go with the playmaking abilities of Rubio to complement Gay and Mayo.


One thing you must also factor in:

OJ Mayo RUINED Rudy Gay's sophmore year. Remember last year how great he was? OJ Mayo comes into the mix and starts ball hogging and playing like shit defensively. Gay did also, but Mayo definitely hurt his superstar growth. Alas, it will have to be Rubio for the playmaking or hopefully - they get another PF to complement Marc Gasol on the boards.


@Testie: Nene is very good, he just took long to get to this level. Admittedly he did have a set back though.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
June 25 2009 00:41 GMT
#258
On June 25 2009 09:12 Ace wrote:
One thing you must also factor in:

OJ Mayo RUINED Rudy Gay's sophmore year. Remember last year how great he was? OJ Mayo comes into the mix and starts ball hogging and playing like shit defensively. Gay did also, but Mayo definitely hurt his superstar growth. Alas, it will have to be Rubio for the playmaking or hopefully - they get another PF to complement Marc Gasol on the boards.


@Testie: Nene is very good, he just took long to get to this level. Admittedly he did have a set back though.


I agree with this last post on everything except the fact that they have to go with a point guard (Rubio most likely). I read somewhere in the past that the Memphis management really likes Mayo as the POINT of the future. Honestly, this makes no sense since it should be Conley at the 1, Mayo at the 2 but this is what I recall reading. Conley was given the keys to the offense after the coaching switch and Hollins really likes him (and I think he's poised for a breakout year).

I think the best move for them right now is to go for a back up PG. Gasol, Mayo, and Gay are THE future of this team. I would be shocked if they don't pick up a back up PG because Gay and Mayo played a shitton of minutes every game last year.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
June 25 2009 00:44 GMT
#259
On June 25 2009 08:01 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 07:49 Judicator wrote:
On June 25 2009 07:46 Jibba wrote:
First of all, anyone that picks Thabeet needs to be banned from this thread. Second, I don't think Curry is going to be a very good pro.


You do realize Thabeet only started playing basketball in college right? Work in progress definitely, but its not like super high risk considering his development in college.
He works on the college level because he's a foot taller than other Cs. He has no footwork and no understanding of positioning, especially on rebounds. He gets away with it because of size, but everyone is taller and a LOT stronger in the pros, and he'll amount to nothing.

It's not like we're talking about Tim Duncan's college development. I'm talking about his junior year, Thabeet did not look like he knew how to play basketball.

EDIT: As a side note, I look forward to all the posters he's going to be in.


Yes... while he is unpolished on offense (read: non existent skills on offense and should NEVER shoot the ball), seven foot three centers do not come around often. He can bulk up over the next couple of years and be a Sam Dalembert type player. I don't want to compare him to Dikembe because that would be giving him way too much credit, but I can see him being a defensive force.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 25 2009 00:49 GMT
#260
you don't draft a backup pg with the #2 pick...
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