EPTHere's a video of the top20 osu players of 2010. I make it short: 95% of these actions are just like WTFSRSLY?
Top20 osu! players 2010
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Yaahh
Germany151 Posts
Here's a video of the top20 osu players of 2010. I make it short: 95% of these actions are just like WTFSRSLY? Top20 osu! players 2010 | ||
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MegaManEXE
United States845 Posts
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RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
On January 26 2011 17:36 RedLuck wrote: so you need to download beatmaps 1 at a time? there isnt a large list that comes with the game? Beatmap packs: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/packlist | ||
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On January 23 2011 01:50 sung_moon wrote: just dl'd it myself.... pretty fun even though i suck really bad. barely beat these 2 star songs D: like the song selection. been looping the vanilla sf4 INDESTRUCTIBLE with the akuma in the BG :p I improved quite fast, my first tries, I had to enable safety net (impossible to fail) to manage to beat a 1 star map. then 20 or so games later, I was playing 3 star maps, and now I usually try the 4½ star maps, but have managed some 5 star maps. And the star system is a bit flawed, some 4 star maps are clearly harder than some 5 star, and a 5 star map can be doablo, or it can be what feels like impossible... | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
On January 26 2011 18:30 Danjoh wrote: I improved quite fast, my first tries, I had to enable safety net (impossible to fail) to manage to beat a 1 star map. then 20 or so games later, I was playing 3 star maps, and now I usually try the 4½ star maps, but have managed some 5 star maps. And the star system is a bit flawed, some 4 star maps are clearly harder than some 5 star, and a 5 star map can be doablo, or it can be what feels like impossible... Yeah you have to read more on the difficulty description 5 star hard vs 5 star insane is very different of course there are the 5 star impossible/uninstall levels too  oh wow I can't believe they can play like that with flashlight You have to practically like memorize the beatmap and osu! commentary by beatmappers xD | ||
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On January 26 2011 23:29 JSH wrote: Yeah you have to read more on the difficulty description 5 star hard vs 5 star insane is very different of course there are the 5 star impossible/uninstall levels too oh wow I can't believe they can play like that with flashlight You have to practically like memorize the beatmap and osu! commentary by beatmappers xD I know that, but I tend to get most of my maps from packs or when playing online, so I don't really check it on their site, and I haven't found anywhere ingame where it shows the difference. | ||
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MegaManEXE
United States845 Posts
I've made normals that are 4+ stars that are stupidly easy but just rated high because the star rating is retarded. And I've played normals that are 2-3 stars that are more like normal+ or hards because they have wide spacing. Edit: Oh also the difficulty settings, forgot about that. Since they split approach rate and overall difficulty now you can really inflate/deflate the star rating by reducing the sliders drastically. One or two ticks usually doesn't do anything but if you start going above that you can definitely affect not only the star rating but the max score; I've done this to make some of my maps' max scores fit under ranking guidelines, as well as the reverse in order to make some normals/hards worth over 1 mil points so it wouldn't be a waste of time to play for the scorewhores out there. | ||
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Mez
Australia42 Posts
On January 24 2011 06:38 Yaahh wrote: More osu! love! Here's a video of the top20 osu players of 2010. I make it short: 95% of these actions are just like WTFSRSLY? Top20 osu! players 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVilEqUbie8&feature=player_embedded Ugh so much flashlight, it's such an unimpressive mod since it's just memorisation, there's so many more impressive DT/HR clears imo. Too bad if they made a top20 plays of 2010 it'll just be all cookiezi for 20 of them. | ||
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MegaManEXE
United States845 Posts
On January 27 2011 00:52 Mez wrote: Ugh so much flashlight, it's such an unimpressive mod since it's just memorisation, there's so many more impressive DT/HR clears imo. Too bad if they made a top20 plays of 2010 it'll just be all cookiezi for 20 of them. Not all, ShaggoN and Rucker can give Cookie a run for his money for sure, and probably taNa too More impressive to me at least since they use mouse, and taNa is mouse-only (no keyboard), not sure about Shag, and I'm pretty sure Rucker is mouse + keyboard Cookie is tablet + keyboard, and while his scores are extremely good it's generally considered easier to play with a tablet than it is with a mouse FL isn't an unimpressive mod to me, it's ridiculous when you combine it with hidden or a 9 overall/approach rate beatmap, or a map with a lot of jumps. Plus when you factor in players like ShaggoN who FL a ton of difficult maps, think of how many beatmaps they've memorized over the course of their time playing osu. Watch Lybydose's FL replay on Masterpiece, or Lunah's replay on Shounen A and then tell me it's not impressive. Yeah it's memorization but you'd be surprised how many osu players can't play with FL, including some of the top players (Cyclone told me one time how he can HD on a lot of maps, but he can't FL anything to save his life lol) The thing about FL is it can be used on pretty much every map, whereas there are comparatively much fewer maps that can be played with HR/DT, so FL/HD are much more popular mods (and also don't destroy your accuracy). Why use DT and get low accuracy like 91% on some song if you can 99% it with FL? They give the same score multiplier after all. Same with HR and HD. | ||
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Mez
Australia42 Posts
On January 27 2011 01:06 MegaManEXE wrote: Not all, ShaggoN and Rucker can give Cookie a run for his money for sure, and probably taNa too More impressive to me at least since they use mouse, and taNa is mouse-only (no keyboard), not sure about Shag, and I'm pretty sure Rucker is mouse + keyboard Cookie is tablet + keyboard, and while his scores are extremely good it's generally considered easier to play with a tablet than it is with a mouse FL isn't an unimpressive mod to me, it's ridiculous when you combine it with hidden or a 9 overall/approach rate beatmap, or a map with a lot of jumps. Plus when you factor in players like ShaggoN who FL a ton of difficult maps, think of how many beatmaps they've memorized over the course of their time playing osu. Watch Lybydose's FL replay on Masterpiece, or Lunah's replay on Shounen A and then tell me it's not impressive. Yeah it's memorization but you'd be surprised how many osu players can't play with FL, including some of the top players (Cyclone told me one time how he can HD on a lot of maps, but he can't FL anything to save his life lol) The thing about FL is it can be used on pretty much every map, whereas there are comparatively much fewer maps that can be played with HR/DT, so FL/HD are much more popular mods (and also don't destroy your accuracy). Why use DT and get low accuracy like 91% on some song if you can 99% it with FL? They give the same score multiplier after all. Same with HR and HD. I think nearly anyone who can fc a map can fc a map with FL, as long as they bother to do it enough times to memorise it - however there are very few people who can do it with DT or do it with HR+HD, which is what makes them more impressive. Sure the masterpiece flashlight is crazy impressive, but in the end it's still memorisation(granted a stupid long amount in this case, and no one else would ever bother to do it), but "raw skill" wise I think the hr+hd clears are higher. I guess what I'm arguing here it essentially the map is unchanged with the FL mod, while the actual "skill" difficulty is significantly risen with a mod like DT/HR+HD added on to it. And honestly a 91% DT on some impossible map is a lot more impressive than a 99% FL, obviously accuracy whoring and scores aside. Yes there are a handful of people who can re-take #1's from cookiezi, but if cookiezi wants it back he gets it back. I'll quote something I heard today concerning this; "with cookiezi, it's a matter of interest, not ability." Not to say rucker and tana aren't amazing, it's just cookiezi almost has no skill ceiling. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
Personally, I really dislike FL, for similar reasons to Mez. However, I think he underestimates how hard it is to play with FL. I used to waste my time with that mod, and memorizing maps is really really difficult. Lybydose's Masterpiece replay is incredibly impressive to me because memorizing a map that long and complicated is super hard, and it would take me at least a thousand tries to memorize a map like that. The ability to memorize maps is a skill, just like clicking fast or recognizing patterns fast is a skill. While I don't really think that highly of such a skill, there is no doubt that people like Lybydose are insanely talented in their own way. Dismissing that talent by saying that FL is "easier" than DT or HR just because it does not involve clicking fast or clicking accurately is incorrect. FL just involves a different skill, and whether you respect it or not there's no doubt that FL players are pretty gosu. | ||
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MegaManEXE
United States845 Posts
But I still think people who can FL are extremely skilled; perhaps a different type of skill like triangle said but still definitely a talent that not many osu players have. Memorizing maps, especially at the insane level (a true insane, not a kioukiou free points 5 star map) is pretty difficult, which makes those who FL with a low playcount on the map even more ridiculous. Masterpiece isn't even on Lyby's most played list, that to me is extremely impressive. I've played Justice to Believe like 600 times or something and could never come close to doing it with FL on, and I have a fairly decent memory (or at least I'm good at memorizing stuff for class lol). Regarding "impossible maps", I would agree that a 91% DT score on one of those would be a greater feat than a 99% FL, but both are ridiculous achievements if the map is truly that difficult. Most "impossible maps" are difficult purely because of their bpm, so increasing it by however much DT increases it by (40%? 60%? I forget and can't find it on the forums anymore, I know it's not actually double though) does make it significantly harder. On a slower map that isn't in the "impossible" category, a low accuracy DT score just isn't impressive to me compared to a very high accuracy FL because I feel that some players could definitely clickspam their way through the map and achieve accuracy in the low 90s on it. That's not a mark of skill to me, it just shows that they can mash their keyboard fast. | ||
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RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
those top 20 plays are just ridiculousssss | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
On January 30 2011 17:41 RedLuck wrote: HOLY this game is addicting... just started playing it 2 days ago and finally pulled this off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgiz51UH6k those top 20 plays are just ridiculousssss Wow, for only 2 days in that's incredibly impressive. What's your username? | ||
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RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
 Edit: just found out how to turn that crap off :D | ||
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Rhombus
United States187 Posts
it astounds me how ridiculous some maps can be. i play MP with friends sometimes and we do max difficulty because we can't fail... a lot of them are... sad. | ||
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RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
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ebacho
United States193 Posts
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RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
On February 01 2011 10:16 ebacho wrote: Go into edit mode, scroll over to the part you need to practice, and test it. This sentence is the single greatest piece of information on TL.net. ty so much | ||
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