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Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
February 11 2013 20:49 GMT
#4221
yuugo so gosu, nerf alternating

ez song with mass mods are fun!
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[image loading]


so stronk, also, slider breaks
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[image loading]
Anopob
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada39 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:21:32
February 11 2013 23:19 GMT
#4222
On February 12 2013 05:02 Yuugo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 01:09 Abenson wrote:
Just saw the top 10 TL osu player vid
Didn't realize it was out until now lol

edit: oh it's a year old


Yeah, no one took the initiative too make a new video this year and I don't really know that many TL players myself sadly.

also I finally passed Assailant in the Night.

This thread says it's in progress though.
Anopob
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada39 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:19:37
February 11 2013 23:19 GMT
#4223
sorry double post
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:42:15
February 11 2013 23:39 GMT
#4224
On February 12 2013 01:09 Abenson wrote:
Just saw the top 10 TL osu player vid
Didn't realize it was out until now lol

edit: oh it's a year old


yeah you can tell that one is old 'cause i'm not in it

then i got so good in 2012 that mochi couldn't even make a video since nobody compares to me

edit: alright, maybe these chumps, but i think it's pretty clear he just put them in as pity votes

On January 01 2013 10:06 prototype. wrote:
2012 top 10 teamliquid osu players

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1. wooozy
2. megamanexe
3. wooozy
4. wooozy
5. yoshh
6. xafnia
7. wooozy
8. wooozy
9. wooozy
10. ebacho

video coming soon!


i mean c'mon... ebacho in top 10? HAH.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
February 12 2013 12:06 GMT
#4225
Hey, is 1650 dpi on 1280X1024 considered high mouse sensitivity? Otherwise I'm going to crank up speed bit by bit again.
Yuugo
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands65 Posts
February 12 2013 16:39 GMT
#4226
On February 12 2013 08:19 Anopob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 05:02 Yuugo wrote:
On February 12 2013 01:09 Abenson wrote:
Just saw the top 10 TL osu player vid
Didn't realize it was out until now lol

edit: oh it's a year old


Yeah, no one took the initiative too make a new video this year and I don't really know that many TL players myself sadly.

also I finally passed Assailant in the Night.

This thread says it's in progress though.


That's the top 25 players of osu! in general, not the top TL players :p

PanzerElite wrote:
Hey, is 1650 dpi on 1280X1024 considered high mouse sensitivity? Otherwise I'm going to crank up speed bit by bit again.


Most high level mouse players use really low sensitivity, around the ranges shooter pro's use. (we're talking about 300-600 dpi with no multiplication). Of course there are exceptions but it's usually at least less than 1000 dpi. I'm currently using 600 myself. I'd like to try a lower sensitivity but I'm physically unable too since my table isn't big enough....

Though end of the day: "Just use what you're most comfortable with."
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
February 12 2013 18:16 GMT
#4227
On February 12 2013 21:06 PanzerElite wrote:
Hey, is 1650 dpi on 1280X1024 considered high mouse sensitivity? Otherwise I'm going to crank up speed bit by bit again.

It's completely down to personal preference. I've always played better with higher sensitivity and find anything below 1.5k irritating to use. Right now I'm using 2.5k.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 06:19:05
February 14 2013 06:10 GMT
#4228
On February 13 2013 03:16 Teliko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 21:06 PanzerElite wrote:
Hey, is 1650 dpi on 1280X1024 considered high mouse sensitivity? Otherwise I'm going to crank up speed bit by bit again.

It's completely down to personal preference. I've always played better with higher sensitivity and find anything below 1.5k irritating to use. Right now I'm using 2.5k.


I used to run 3500 DPI at 1366x768. I could move across my entire screen is just over 1cm of movment. However, I found that despite that, it was extremely difficult to hit full screen jumps. After a lot of debate, I switched down to 1800 and saw a very quick improvement in my jumps after I started to get used to the speed. Although it's entirely possible to be extremely accurate at high DPI, it's hard, because the physical size of your destination is much smaller, so your hand movements need to be extraordinarily precise. Some people might be able to do well at high DPI, but I would actually suggest not going too high.

Also, WTF, people can play this stuff? Even Entozer can't pass this in o2jam (though at life drain 5 he can in osu!mania lol)
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
February 14 2013 17:54 GMT
#4229
that seems horribly overmapped

but then again a lot of o2jam/stepmania/etc stuff is mapped that way so i shouldn't be surprised
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 19:37:17
February 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#4230
I'd agree that it's overmapped, but I'd say that when you have the skill, overmapped charts can still be fun. Most overmapped o2jam charts are a LOT worse than that one is. They usually have patterns that make no sense, this one has some of those, but also quite a few patterns that actually do make sense (as a pattern they may not entirely fit the music).

Remember, most maps for o2jam that aren't aimed at pro players are in the lvl 1-30 range (anything above 30 is pretty much considered to be for pros) and this is a level 144 chart (and trust me, most maps that claim to be 100+ aren't really that hard, this one is legit for it's level.)

I definitely understand the aversion most people have for overmapped charts, but I'm actually finding them a lot of fun to practice on, because they employ some really tricky patterns that are good training.

Also, I think osu players think other music games tend to "overmap" everything, even if they're not overmapping but just accurately following multiple rhythms at once making for a chart more complex than osu and taiko allow...
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
February 14 2013 22:22 GMT
#4231
I suck at this game.
RLC is pro at mapping. His maps so fun. Also great song picks, <3 infected.
209bpm. OD8. 1/4 sliderjumps is jolly good (418bpm sliders? Big Black got nothing on this).

Starts easy. Gets crazy on 2:37. Omg why am I so bad, how to play :v

Spaced 209bpm streams a little hard... zzz

RLC best mapper of all times, seriously, this is so fun. <3 <3
Reavers. Lurkers. Vultures. Defilers. Corsairs. Vessels. Why did they remove all the cool units from SC2...?
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
February 14 2013 23:44 GMT
#4232
Looks like mania pp rankings are real time now. And according to my trend line I'll be number one sometime between march and april.

Watch out o2jam nubs!
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
February 15 2013 04:54 GMT
#4233
On February 15 2013 08:44 ThaZenith wrote:
Looks like mania pp rankings are real time now. And according to my trend line I'll be number one sometime between march and april.

Watch out o2jam nubs!


I'd say not so fast, but since there's still only 1 ranked mania map, and I don't play autoconverts, I don't see my rank getting much higher any time soon.
CAPSLOCKLOL
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 05:07:42
February 15 2013 05:07 GMT
#4234
[image loading]
taking a break seems to help a lot lol
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
February 15 2013 06:58 GMT
#4235
In the two years since I started playing, every time I take a long break of say 3-4 months or more, I always come back easily besting previous high scores. Every time. It's pretty strange. Happened to others I know too.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
February 15 2013 14:11 GMT
#4236
It's a common thing in music games in general. Happened to me in both Stepmania and O2jam when I was primarily playing both of those games Happened more than once in the case of Stepmania.
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 15:48:50
February 15 2013 15:46 GMT
#4237
On February 15 2013 04:28 Bobbias wrote:
I'd agree that it's overmapped, but I'd say that when you have the skill, overmapped charts can still be fun. Most overmapped o2jam charts are a LOT worse than that one is. They usually have patterns that make no sense, this one has some of those, but also quite a few patterns that actually do make sense (as a pattern they may not entirely fit the music).

Remember, most maps for o2jam that aren't aimed at pro players are in the lvl 1-30 range (anything above 30 is pretty much considered to be for pros) and this is a level 144 chart (and trust me, most maps that claim to be 100+ aren't really that hard, this one is legit for it's level.)

I definitely understand the aversion most people have for overmapped charts, but I'm actually finding them a lot of fun to practice on, because they employ some really tricky patterns that are good training.

Also, I think osu players think other music games tend to "overmap" everything, even if they're not overmapping but just accurately following multiple rhythms at once making for a chart more complex than osu and taiko allow...


well i didn't mind streamy stuff in stepmania even if a lot of it didn't make sense rhythmically to me, i really hate overmapped stuff in osu though but everyone already probably knew that lol. stepmania also has no hitsounds (unless you turn on perma clapping or some stupid shit but that gets old really fast) so having the extra notes helps to keep a rhythm going even when there's less stuff going on in the song. and in osu you're only using 2 fingers on 1 hand unless you're a weird hybrid alternating click/tap + z player so that significantly limits the amount of overmapping that's feasible for most players who aren't robots to play. in stepmania like everybody plays spread or some variant involving four fingers on both hands so it allows for greater density of notes especially at faster speeds.

idk i dont mind things being justifiably saturated with notes based on the song, but that sword art online song really doesn't have that much shit going on in the music to warrant a billion notes like that imo. although i have a notoriously shitty musical ear (which is why i'm a bad osu mapper) so maybe it's more complex than i think.
CAPSLOCKLOL
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States135 Posts
February 15 2013 20:18 GMT
#4238
To anyone here who plays/played stepmania: did you guys play mostly spread or index charts? And if you do still play, what packs do you generally play from?
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
February 16 2013 03:39 GMT
#4239
i usually played spread, dunno what makes a chart spread vs index though

i had kbmp 1&2, ckbmp 1&2, otaku's dream mixes, itg 1&2, and some other random packs, also a lot of easier charts that i could play on pad
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 08:23:30
February 16 2013 08:22 GMT
#4240
On February 16 2013 00:46 MegaManEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 04:28 Bobbias wrote:
I'd agree that it's overmapped, but I'd say that when you have the skill, overmapped charts can still be fun. Most overmapped o2jam charts are a LOT worse than that one is. They usually have patterns that make no sense, this one has some of those, but also quite a few patterns that actually do make sense (as a pattern they may not entirely fit the music).

Remember, most maps for o2jam that aren't aimed at pro players are in the lvl 1-30 range (anything above 30 is pretty much considered to be for pros) and this is a level 144 chart (and trust me, most maps that claim to be 100+ aren't really that hard, this one is legit for it's level.)

I definitely understand the aversion most people have for overmapped charts, but I'm actually finding them a lot of fun to practice on, because they employ some really tricky patterns that are good training.

Also, I think osu players think other music games tend to "overmap" everything, even if they're not overmapping but just accurately following multiple rhythms at once making for a chart more complex than osu and taiko allow...


well i didn't mind streamy stuff in stepmania even if a lot of it didn't make sense rhythmically to me, i really hate overmapped stuff in osu though but everyone already probably knew that lol. stepmania also has no hitsounds (unless you turn on perma clapping or some stupid shit but that gets old really fast) so having the extra notes helps to keep a rhythm going even when there's less stuff going on in the song. and in osu you're only using 2 fingers on 1 hand unless you're a weird hybrid alternating click/tap + z player so that significantly limits the amount of overmapping that's feasible for most players who aren't robots to play. in stepmania like everybody plays spread or some variant involving four fingers on both hands so it allows for greater density of notes especially at faster speeds.

idk i dont mind things being justifiably saturated with notes based on the song, but that sword art online song really doesn't have that much shit going on in the music to warrant a billion notes like that imo. although i have a notoriously shitty musical ear (which is why i'm a bad osu mapper) so maybe it's more complex than i think.


Well I did say it was definitely overmapped, but you could make a PRETTY complex chart with that song anyway. The only reason I'm really defending it at all is that after having played it and paying attention to when and where the patterns are in it, they actually kinda make sense (especially when compared to most other overmapped o2jam charts I've seen). I went back and played some stepmania again and realized just how many charts don't accurately represent the music, but despite that, they're still fun and tastefully done (mostly). Crossing Field just kinda took the idea of using patterns that didn't fully match the music and went all out with it, emphasizing pattern over trying to match the music perfectly. Its kinda hard to explain exactly why I don't hate it...

On February 16 2013 05:18 CAPSLOCKLOL wrote:
To anyone here who plays/played stepmania: did you guys play mostly spread or index charts? And if you do still play, what packs do you generally play from?


http://houkouonchi.net:8080/packs/

Reach, Eggman, Izzy, Kilga, Toph, Arch0wl originals, Keyboard Megapack 1.5, Community Megapack 1 and 2 are basicaly my minimum requirements lol. There are still other packs there worth getting too.

I usually play spread, though I went through various different styles before I hit spread. i think now pretty much all of those would be considered index charts, since they rarely ever used more than 2 keys at once, but in many cases they weren't actually specifically made for index style play (some patterns are very hard for index even if they still only involve 1 or 2 keys.
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