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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 05 2009 23:02 GMT
#101
On November 06 2009 07:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 07:41 motbob wrote:
Zero evidence that Activision has any sort of hand in game development. This only shows that they're selective about what projects to start funding.

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Maybe the choice quotes of the event, though, came when Kotick talked about Activision’s developers; you know, the guys who actually make the stuff he gets so rich from. You’d think he’d have a bit of respect for them, right? Oh no, Kotick’s goal over the past 10 years has been – you couldn’t make this up – “to take all the fun out of making video games.” How? By instilling a culture of “scepticism, pessimism, and fear” amongst the company’s staff based around the economic depression and an incentive program that rewards “profit and nothing else”.

They may not have an explicit hand in game development, but I'm extremely skeptical that a policy like that doesn't create some implicit pressure on what comes out of their developers.

...you mean games that make a profit? How is that a bad thing? Games that are better make a bigger profit.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 05 2009 23:12 GMT
#102
On November 06 2009 08:02 motbob wrote:
...you mean games that make a profit? How is that a bad thing? Games that are better make a bigger profit.

...games that make immediate, short-run profit. Which means petty things like trying to nickle-and-dime people with things like $10 DLCs. Longevity and good faith are going to be secondary to immediate profits because they're less readily quantifiable (even though in real terms, they'll likely produce a better outcome for both the consumer and the producer).
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 05 2009 23:18 GMT
#103
On November 06 2009 08:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 08:02 motbob wrote:
...you mean games that make a profit? How is that a bad thing? Games that are better make a bigger profit.

...games that make immediate, short-run profit. Which means petty things like trying to nickle-and-dime people with things like $10 DLCs. Longevity and good faith are going to be secondary to immediate profits because they're less readily quantifiable (even though in real terms, they'll likely produce a better outcome for both the consumer and the producer).

If DLC is not worth the cost, people are welcome not to buy it. Why would you expect developers to make complex multiplayer maps for free?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 05 2009 23:30 GMT
#104
On November 06 2009 08:18 motbob wrote:
If DLC is not worth the cost, people are welcome not to buy it. Why would you expect developers to make complex multiplayer maps for free?

I don't expect them to make complex multiplayer maps at all beyond a few at release. The only reason I could see them doing so is because they're trying to drive short-term profit. They could just as well release their editor and let ready and willing modders do it, and thus let them move onto the next thing, instead of getting bogged down in something their resources are probably not best suited for. The only reason to do it is because it raises short-term profits, while surely not being an efficient use of resources in the long-term.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 05 2009 23:32 GMT
#105
On November 06 2009 08:30 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 08:18 motbob wrote:
If DLC is not worth the cost, people are welcome not to buy it. Why would you expect developers to make complex multiplayer maps for free?

I don't expect them to make complex multiplayer maps at all beyond a few at release. The only reason I could see them doing so is because they're trying to drive short-term profit. They could just as well release their editor and let ready and willing modders do it, and thus let them move onto the next thing, instead of getting bogged down in something their resources are probably not best suited for. The only reason to do it is because it raises short-term profits, while surely not being an efficient use of resources in the long-term.

Makes sense to me... while they're working on the engine/elements for the next game, they get their idle mappers to keep working on the previous game. Sounds like good allocation of resources.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
theron[wdt]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States395 Posts
November 09 2009 08:25 GMT
#106
24 hours gentlemen until release, unless your're in the northwest united states.
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 08:46:38
November 09 2009 08:45 GMT
#107
pre-ordered this saturday, cant wait T_T!

I'm sure they did a great job o0
Studying Chinese~
sagrado_corazon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States100 Posts
November 10 2009 02:06 GMT
#108
how can you guys actually buy a game like this? its the biggest joke for a PC game out there. -_-
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 10 2009 02:11 GMT
#109
On November 10 2009 11:06 sagrado_corazon wrote:
how can you guys actually buy a game like this? its the biggest joke for a PC game out there. -_-


its good and im guessing most people are getting it for console

Forever Young
theron[wdt]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States395 Posts
November 10 2009 02:13 GMT
#110
console playboy
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 10 2009 02:57 GMT
#111
Yeah, MW2 is more of a console game since they axed PC gamers horribly. I, personally, will not buy the game since it's expensive and I don't have a job right now. Although I still have money in my bank account, I can use the $60 towards something else.
weaksauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
369 Posts
November 10 2009 04:27 GMT
#112
i dont like the constant grunts and groans upon death, and the fact that streak rewards are basically ac10/missile/heli view mini games. too much focus is being taken out of the first person, solider with a gun view.

also i hate the idea of turrets.
even if he DID detect penis - cubEdin
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-10 05:02:34
November 10 2009 04:59 GMT
#113
well, reviews haven't materialized so the embargo probably lifts 3 hours from now
ModeratorGood content always wins.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
November 10 2009 07:16 GMT
#114
I just got back from a midnight release of modernwarfare 2 at a lanhouse. The game has the exact same feel to cod4, with many new weapons and improved classbuilding. time can only tell how balanced and fun the multiplayer is, but it looks like tons of fun.

I managed to win one of the pc tournaments and went home with a salmosa that I'm trying to sell on ebay now.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 10 2009 07:47 GMT
#115
On November 06 2009 05:49 GTR wrote:
not going to bother buying this. will only want to play for the single player.
if they didnt royally screw up the multiplayer i would definitely purchase it.


Yeah, that's the position I'm in too. I own a lot of ATVI stock so I hope this sells millions, but they lost my $60 by crippling the PC version from what we've come to expect from FPS games. Playing this on a console would be like playing Starcraft on the N64. CoD4 was a solid shooter, but they took the things I hated about it (kill streak abilities, perks, ranks, etc.) and expanded them greatly. Bleh.

So who's excited about Battlefield Bad Company 2?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
November 10 2009 07:58 GMT
#116
On November 10 2009 16:47 ShadowDrgn wrote:
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On November 06 2009 05:49 GTR wrote:
not going to bother buying this. will only want to play for the single player.
if they didnt royally screw up the multiplayer i would definitely purchase it.


Yeah, that's the position I'm in too. I own a lot of ATVI stock so I hope this sells millions, but they lost my $60 by crippling the PC version from what we've come to expect from FPS games. Playing this on a console would be like playing Starcraft on the N64. CoD4 was a solid shooter, but they took the things I hated about it (kill streak abilities, perks, ranks, etc.) and expanded them greatly. Bleh.

So who's excited about Battlefield Bad Company 2?




Sorry i might be wrong, but you can just join a server without those "mini games" enabled right?
Studying Chinese~
mnm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States4493 Posts
November 10 2009 16:45 GMT
#117
i just got (my own) XBL for this game =x. We got it before the midnight release ^_^. Can't wait to go home to play more after work.
http://www.teamliquid.net/store http://www.teamliquid.net/gallery/
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
November 10 2009 17:04 GMT
#118
Been hooked on it, nearing 1000 kills for XBL. Bling is definitely my favorite, silence + scope is WIN.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 10 2009 17:38 GMT
#119
Here's the full review:
Modern Warfare 2 Review HD
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
November 10 2009 18:51 GMT
#120
Got this at midnight for PS3, have been glued. But now, I must depart to class... It definitely lived up to all the hype, great game.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
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