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abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 01:50:49
November 08 2011 01:41 GMT
#17141
On November 08 2011 08:58 KwarK wrote:
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On November 08 2011 06:42 abominare wrote:
New dev blog. Pi producers are getting the short end of the stick. Granted now would be a perfect time for some one to actually shake things up and shut down the new Eden pos world. You could basically kill eve for less than a hundred bill.

Go on...


Theres several links in pos fuels that have tiny daily volumes of just a couple billion. If you were to walk in and say kill in the exporting market of something even simple like water, you'd effectively cut off the supply of mass produced coolant. The only people who would be contributing coolant now to the market are those willing to make it from the ground up, and I sincerely doubt those suppliers would be able to handle the volume. (The daily volume of coolant is 4million, a decent 5 planet set up only makes about 1500 or so coolant a character that way meaning that you'd need 2600+ characters on the server making coolant)

For a little more money you could say, kill the CE market since it isnt profitable to mass produce at current levels anyways. If you cut out CE which is cheaper than cutting Mechanical parts you've now destroyed robotics, as well as several market items like weapons that require CE. The difficulty in risking this doing a P2 item is many of them still have stockpiles from speculation over a year ago. P1 products not so much.

Camping a market like that for a good month, in addition to current hoarding might allow for a significant shortfall in available pellets for once the change over goes live, or eve better if you can keep the stranglehold long enough you can eventually cause towers across the board to start failing if they cant generate them internally.

Without pos's you shut down all tech 2 and tech 3, capital, and super capital production in eve. Additionally with pellets you get two things helping you, first the wrong fuels may be over made and under made to begin with (lul amarr and minnie towers) and theres additionally the lag now generated between having fuel being developed (no one is going to make this one pellet at a time.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
November 08 2011 06:14 GMT
#17142
On November 08 2011 10:41 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 08:58 KwarK wrote:
On November 08 2011 06:42 abominare wrote:
New dev blog. Pi producers are getting the short end of the stick. Granted now would be a perfect time for some one to actually shake things up and shut down the new Eden pos world. You could basically kill eve for less than a hundred bill.

Go on...


Theres several links in pos fuels that have tiny daily volumes of just a couple billion. If you were to walk in and say kill in the exporting market of something even simple like water, you'd effectively cut off the supply of mass produced coolant. The only people who would be contributing coolant now to the market are those willing to make it from the ground up, and I sincerely doubt those suppliers would be able to handle the volume. (The daily volume of coolant is 4million, a decent 5 planet set up only makes about 1500 or so coolant a character that way meaning that you'd need 2600+ characters on the server making coolant)

For a little more money you could say, kill the CE market since it isnt profitable to mass produce at current levels anyways. If you cut out CE which is cheaper than cutting Mechanical parts you've now destroyed robotics, as well as several market items like weapons that require CE. The difficulty in risking this doing a P2 item is many of them still have stockpiles from speculation over a year ago. P1 products not so much.

Camping a market like that for a good month, in addition to current hoarding might allow for a significant shortfall in available pellets for once the change over goes live, or eve better if you can keep the stranglehold long enough you can eventually cause towers across the board to start failing if they cant generate them internally.

Without pos's you shut down all tech 2 and tech 3, capital, and super capital production in eve. Additionally with pellets you get two things helping you, first the wrong fuels may be over made and under made to begin with (lul amarr and minnie towers) and theres additionally the lag now generated between having fuel being developed (no one is going to make this one pellet at a time.

Combining all of the pos fuels into a single pellet is a perfect idea, but the transition from split to pellets is wide open for anyone, you can buy out any single one of the materials, or anything used to make a single material, and suddenly pellets cant be made. The best part is, a lot of stupid people wont realize where the bottleneck is when they just buy the pellets, which prolongs the mayhem. I support this idea, and there is profit to be made, but I do not want to be the one to capitalize on it.
polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
November 08 2011 08:39 GMT
#17143
I guess now is the time to ask for 54 access I did btw do that earlier but perhaps I missread something. Am I allowed that by the way?
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 09:40:47
November 08 2011 09:40 GMT
#17144
On November 08 2011 17:39 polluxtby wrote:
I guess now is the time to ask for 54 access I did btw do that earlier but perhaps I missread something. Am I allowed that by the way?

If you are in ghost the instructions are in the motd. If you aren't in ghost you dont get 54 access.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
November 08 2011 11:30 GMT
#17145
Just reactivated my account. Been thinking of getting back into eve for a while now. Only thing is I haven't played in so long I've forgotten pretty much everything I knew :/
polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:14:36
November 08 2011 12:00 GMT
#17146
On November 08 2011 18:40 Mandini wrote:
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On November 08 2011 17:39 polluxtby wrote:
I guess now is the time to ask for 54 access I did btw do that earlier but perhaps I missread something. Am I allowed that by the way?

If you are in ghost the instructions are in the motd. If you aren't in ghost you dont get 54 access.

I'd be in ghost if I could actually start EVE. I have access to ghost as I am a member of the corp. But I don't have the game installed on this computer and no way of changing that until oct 21. Anyway, I guess I ask on oct 22 or thereabout, to evade confirmation problems and such. Thx Mandini

Edit: Silly me, I meant nov 21 ofc
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44077 Posts
November 08 2011 16:52 GMT
#17147
54 access is restricted considerably more than ghost btw, if you don't get it then just wait.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
November 08 2011 17:00 GMT
#17148
On November 08 2011 21:00 polluxtby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 18:40 Mandini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2011 17:39 polluxtby wrote:
I guess now is the time to ask for 54 access I did btw do that earlier but perhaps I missread something. Am I allowed that by the way?

If you are in ghost the instructions are in the motd. If you aren't in ghost you dont get 54 access.

I'd be in ghost if I could actually start EVE. I have access to ghost as I am a member of the corp. But I don't have the game installed on this computer and no way of changing that until oct 21. Anyway, I guess I ask on oct 22 or thereabout, to evade confirmation problems and such. Thx Mandini

3 weeks ago? Or in a year?
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polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
November 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#17149
On November 09 2011 01:52 KwarK wrote:
54 access is restricted considerably more than ghost btw, if you don't get it then just wait.

Sounds fair.

Considering that I still haven't done much flying with you guys due to lacking time and moving to another country and as I might not have time to play that much for a while (meaning I can do some long skill trains), is there anything that you guys feel you would like more people to fly with or should I just continue with drake skills?

This question feels slightly noobish when I dont really know yet how good I will be able to be at nanoing but I still have a lot of training to do while not being able to fly
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 22:42:09
November 08 2011 22:39 GMT
#17150
Some of these new nebulae are just breathtaking.

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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 08 2011 23:10 GMT
#17151
Apparently Guristas Pirates are a bunch of haters. Who the hell launches a massive barrage at a lone rifter. Ugottask8
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
November 08 2011 23:12 GMT
#17152
Risen, the only man in a frigate who, sitting in a 9/10 combat site, doesn't warp out when being redboxed by everything.
MSL 2052
polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 00:28:22
November 08 2011 23:30 GMT
#17153
Risen can frigate pvp everything, even pve ships. Afterall, pve is just pvp without a p and with an e :p

Edit: Have just read some of the newest dev blogs and maaaaaaan am I hallucinating? I actually could be due to the chemicals from the nearby appartment that is undergoing repairs has filled the air in my appartment.

Anyway, I just love that CCP at least seems to want to do stuff that people have been asking for for years. New font size will be great. Tower fuel changes and then all the rest of the stuff they have said to be working on for the winter expansion. And they listen and read the comments from people and answer and do stuff and make changes based of what people think. Sorry for my rambling but if they manage to actually implement this without any major hiccups and then continue on the same path I dare to see a future for this game again

Edit2: And missed shots actually showing in the GRAFICS!

http://www.evenews24.com/2011/11/08/from-sisi-missed-shots/

Edit3: Awaiting BR from your last turkey shoot in EC-P8R
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44077 Posts
November 09 2011 00:47 GMT
#17154
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=11489470
Hatcheried. No big deal.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
November 09 2011 01:09 GMT
#17155
Missed shots showing seems like something made for pve ppl. Pvp you turn that !%^ off. And/or you're zoomed out anyway.
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
November 09 2011 01:27 GMT
#17156
Talos lost its web bonus on SiSi :/
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
November 09 2011 02:07 GMT
#17157
On November 09 2011 10:27 TomatoShark wrote:
Talos lost its web bonus on SiSi :/


Was pretty much expected, gallente and hybrids aren't suppose to be viable
s0Li
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
November 09 2011 03:15 GMT
#17158
On November 09 2011 09:47 KwarK wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=11489470
Hatcheried. No big deal.



lol random thrasher?
I don't wanna hear excuses, I wanna hear solutions...
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
November 09 2011 03:20 GMT
#17159
Thanks to Kwark forcing me to learn to fly a Rifter, I know have access to all T1 frigates. So many new toys to play with!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44077 Posts
November 09 2011 03:53 GMT
#17160
40 man gang with multiple recons, logis and dual links hunting us in the system. They have a 15 man allied gang on the gate to the system in an adjacent so we make a daring raid to hit them while on the run from the other gang with just 5 guys. Real hit and run shit. We jump in, open up on the rapier and heat on it while burning but it drops slowly, despite my scourge doing the kinda damage they should.
It turned out that despite explaining the plan clearly and every fleet member understanding it Aeth managed to warp to the wrong gate and Serg didn't warp at all because...
So, the rapier got out in low armour because half our dps didn't show up to the battle. Chris escaped and then after local +40ed with the neighbours responding decided to chance the gate which had been reported clear a minute before the +40. Turned out it was no longer clear.
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