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On January 25 2011 17:28 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I was not online for when this happened but from reading the last couple pages I think its safe to assume the fallowing, please correct me if im wrong:
1) You asked how to repair your ship and a war target told you to come to a system.
2)You were told in the 'scbw' channel that you should use corp chat, and i also assume someone told you how to repair your ship in the 'scbw' channel.
3) You then took atleast 10 minutes to jump to the war target, during which time you did not say anything about it in corp chat or scbw, and you did not read the bullitens.
I wont bother going on, but could you explain to the best of your ability why step 3 happened at all?
1) yes
2) someone pm'ed me and said i should ask in the corp channel if i have any questions ( i cant remember he also told me how to repair, this guy was really strange he closed the chat after he wrote me 2 sentences i wasnt able to talk much to him, my mentor was offline and this guy in the scbw channel looked alright to me, i did not expect him to murder me and i still dont understand why this was the reason to kick me, im a new player that could have happened to anyone )
3) yes but i was just about to read the bulletins, i installed the game 2 hours before, i even did not know about war. only when i got kicked they told me about war.. how should i have known that?(of course you would read the whole book before you start the game, yeah...)
i really thought this guy is trying to help me, he also said something about fleeting together and he will look over my character and tell me what to do next...
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
Not meaning to join in the bashing, but wow you must have provided quite a bit of comedy for the war targets. I'm silently giggling inside as I picture this whole situation from their point of view. :D
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On January 25 2011 15:16 s_side wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 14:48 Jayme wrote:On January 25 2011 14:33 s_side wrote:On January 25 2011 14:26 biz87 wrote:On January 25 2011 14:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Any nonplayer who reads this thread regularly can tell you that yes they are at war, who they are at war with, and what systems to avoid because of the war. It's kinda common sense and reading comprehension. i just wanted to start playing the game, where is your problem? i am learning by doing and not reading a book before i start playing..i was just about to read their bulletin as i already mentioned.. Your first problem. You're virtually useless until you're about 3 months old. Until then, just read as much as you can and try to be less scrubby. lose anymore titans recently? :D No, but we've killed some caps and gotten paid about half a trillion to intervene in the Northwest. Btw, when are you going to put Jayme in a Mothership and app to PL? EDIT: And just so you know, all cap losses are reimbursed.
I wouldn't have the time to play that would be required of me if I joined PL.
I can only play three days a week really, all other days im busy.
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You left our conversation when I was writing a novel about where and when you are safe in eve and what to avoid. As I was writing it you left the conversation and I didn't notice so I kept writing. Was kinda angry after that.
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United States44258 Posts
On January 25 2011 14:01 biz87 wrote:
I was just about to read the guides in their bulletin.
When you joined I said the following to you
KwarK:Read the bulletins
Instead the first thing you did was go and play with a war target while about to read the bulletins. I don't understand how you can think this is anyone's fault but your own. You were told what to do and you didn't do it. It doesn't matter that you were about to do it, you fucked up. Saying that you were about to read the bulletins is no better than saying you didn't read them. You had a choice, read bulletins or do something else. You chose to do something else.
Also I'm happy you died.
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On January 25 2011 17:38 biz87 wrote:
1) yes
2) someone pm'ed me and said i should ask in the corp channel if i have any questions ( i cant remember he also told me how to repair, this guy was really strange he closed the chat after he wrote me 2 sentences i wasnt able to talk much to him, my mentor was offline and this guy in the scbw channel looked alright to me, i did not expect him to murder me and i still dont understand why this was the reason to kick me, im a new player that could have happened to anyone )
3) yes but i was just about to read the bulletins, i installed the game 2 hours before, i even did not know about war. only when i got kicked they told me about war.. how should i have known that?(of course you would read the whole book before you start the game, yeah...)
i really thought this guy is trying to help me, he also said something about fleeting together and he will look over my character and tell me what to do next...
1) I told you in corp chat AND In Scbw what to do. Why would you listen to someone out of corp and not in corp? Did you even know about corp chat?
2)If you had any more questions, could of just asked in corp chat or reopen the convo with me, don't play victim here when you don't take the agency to help yourself. Johnny (your mentor) was even helping you and you exited the convo.
3) First mistake, the first thing your told by kwark when he accepts you, is to read the bullitens. Not my fault you can't follow simple directions.
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i cant believe you guys did not understand it now that i repeated it like 5 times
i did not expect to get killed in this game so early, how should i know about a war when i just installed it 2 hours ago, i even dont understand how this affects your corporation but it must be something really bad when you kick me for this reason.
just shows how you treat new people. im not gonna answer any more questions, you guys are retarded to me. taking this game way too serious
User was temp banned for this post.
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So basicly you're saying someone should've told you all the things you shouldn't do and could happen to you(going 15 jumps away and dying) instead of just telling you what to do(read the bulletins).
If so then I'd like to apologise that EVE isn't the game you expected it to be, you know the kind that has 15minutes of cutscenes first to explain which of the 4 buttons you must push to "win" all while showing you massive ammounts of animated cleavage. You may want to try again in a couple of years.
Also, when you provide quality entertainment for me, I sure as hell am going to take it seriously. Stuff like these last 3 pages are pure gold :>
Edit: kwark ninja ban 
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Actually Nyovne got that one. I think its telling that he was warned first, clearly something the wild Kwark would never do.
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Hyrule19250 Posts
Kicking him out of corp was good, and I explained this to him. But he still went ape shit. He seemed to understand in our conversation when I said "you were kicked, so now random people won't bother you and you can talk to your mentor and get help and then reapply".
But I guess he's just one of those people who can never drop his point of view.
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Wow, and to think you caused this dramamania when it was even one of our wartargets that sent you off to die.
Can't remember who it was, but the one guy I sent to rancer in his flashy destroyer took it far better than you did.
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my 2 cents...
this remembers me when gem was asking for salvage in scbw and not in corp xd...
and biz if you ever get past this poing you will understand our reaction (even when i dont totally agree)
and you cant say you didnt knew we were in war, thats just worse for you, anyone who reads this thread knows we were in war, anyone who at least clicks every button when in a new game knows we are at war. I think you were really really naive...
This is wow's fault.
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
You keep saying, how were you supposed to know that we were at war etc. I'm going to chime in and say you should have researched a little more about our corp before applying to join. No one to blame but yourself.
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I found EVE much easier than Wow when I started T_T. But maybe its cause I had good reading comprehension and didn't expect to be spoonfed.
Edit: Got to hop on bandwagon correctly. I blame society.
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I was asking in SCBW cuz i was not in The Hatchery. After i sorted my shit out i joined The Hatch with my other account, i played for almost a month without being on the Hatchery before i joined, yes i asked in SCBW and there was some nice people to help me, i'm glad they did.
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Being a community corp is good and all but god damn I'm tired of all this stupid shit reflecting back on the rest of the people who have actually been doing an amazing job in the short time they've been here.
Frustrating.
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i am thinkin' of following situation:
you want to try paintball;
you join team blue;
team blue tells you to learn the rules of the game before playing;
you start playing;
no other player is near you;
you don't know how to solve a problem;
you have a in-team-communication-tool that you don't use;
instead you shout out loud for help;
there is a reply from far away: "come here we'll solve your problem";
you go there;
it's someone of the red team;
you're out
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Netherlands19141 Posts
On January 25 2011 22:07 Belgo wrote:
Actually Nyovne got that one. I think its telling that he was warned first, clearly something the wild Kwark would never do.
Moderators do not deal with issues they are personally involved in or with such as Kwark with corporation issues on these boards and especially in this thread. Those issues are put forward to be dealt with by other moderators.
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I think the topic of this biz guy is pretty much over, I decided to kick him from corp not because i had in mind ; ''i never want him to join this corp ever again'' (even if in retrospect, with what he wrote on here, im not sure I would of said that at first)
The kick was because he wouldnt answer to anyone in corp chat, didnt really answer to anyone in scbw, and just went ahead to die, so i figured the best way to keep him safe until someone had a talk with him would be to kick him.
(edit, i still had a laugh when i saw he died, but it doesnt come close to trollton sending a brand new player to die in rancer)
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i keep trying to send new players to die in rancer, but there are always some do-gooders who spoil my fun
decline of the liquid
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