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punt
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore50 Posts
April 05 2008 15:09 GMT
#301
oh well its all based on perspective.. no prob..
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 05 2008 15:11 GMT
#302
I start wriaths/bot on viper if I'm solo-mid-ing. Then butter if all goes well, or mkb if things are a bit twitchy.

Basically, sort-of like tinker, the bot means ganking all around with ulti/slow and some friends to help. Treads/Vanguard/S&Y are all items that a decent player would never get on viper. When lvl5 hits you're one of the most dangerous heroes in the game, and treads is really not that great since you already have frenzy.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
April 05 2008 15:50 GMT
#303
yes but you dont get frenzy at level 5? it doesnt seem worth it yet, stats or armor seem like a better choice at the early level, mostly because you use all of your mana at 5 orb walking, or at 6 ult/orb walking.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 05 2008 15:55 GMT
#304
Poison - stats - poison - stats - poison - ult -> who cares -> run around the map, go 15-0, give team advantage and complete map control -> afk -> if they lose, it's their fault.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
April 05 2008 16:32 GMT
#305
On April 06 2008 00:09 punt wrote:
oh well its all based on perspective.. no prob..


Herein lies the great DotA problem, it isn't about perspective.
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
punt
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore50 Posts
April 05 2008 16:43 GMT
#306
well tt strat worked for me so im just sharing it.. oh never mind.. no worries..
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2008 16:49 GMT
#307
LOL AT TESTIE.
Frenzy at 5 is just to get rid of CotS
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
April 05 2008 17:29 GMT
#308
Hmn, why is sniper never used at higher level play? Is he too fragile? He's probably the best farmer in the game, between headshot for last hits and scatter shot for multiple last hits.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
!BigBlind!
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
69 Posts
April 05 2008 17:40 GMT
#309
Sniper is a pretty worthless hero, he loses almost every solo lane, certainly every dual lane, and has almost no team oriented abilities.
My Replay Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68666
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
April 05 2008 19:01 GMT
#310
Well when you put it like that...
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
April 05 2008 21:07 GMT
#311
On April 05 2008 14:50 !BigBlind! wrote:
50 just played gL for Pride 10 Qualifier, probably the best replay that will come out of the American region, at least.

Can be found here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=68666



Don't you think you guys should have won that game a lot faster/easier? You had a dominating early game advantage against a mid game team. I watched the first 40 minutes, and it was getting really sloppy by just about everyone but joker.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
April 05 2008 21:08 GMT
#312
On April 06 2008 02:29 rpf wrote:
Hmn, why is sniper never used at higher level play? Is he too fragile? He's probably the best farmer in the game, between headshot for last hits and scatter shot for multiple last hits.


Scatter shot is *the* single most worthless skill you can possibly imagine. Don't ever, ever learn it, or think of using it. If by accident you learn this skill, alt Q Q before you can manage to by accident use it too.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 05 2008 21:40 GMT
#313
On April 06 2008 06:08 FzeroXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2008 02:29 rpf wrote:
Hmn, why is sniper never used at higher level play? Is he too fragile? He's probably the best farmer in the game, between headshot for last hits and scatter shot for multiple last hits.


Scatter shot is *the* single most worthless skill you can possibly imagine. Don't ever, ever learn it, or think of using it. If by accident you learn this skill, alt Q Q before you can manage to by accident use it too.


battle hunger? :O
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2008 21:43 GMT
#314
^ We got a winner
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 05 2008 22:00 GMT
#315
Everyone should watch xsk vs vp, i dled them out of order so I just finished watching game 3 first, and wowowow lightofheaven is a craaaaazy farmer.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
April 05 2008 22:02 GMT
#316
yeahh lightofheaven is crazyyyyy
i remember seeing this one game where he played tide and went midas first and in the end he was so fucking stacked like hearts skadi buriza etc rofll
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 05 2008 22:39 GMT
#317
On April 06 2008 00:50 Alventenie wrote:
yes but you dont get frenzy at level 5? it doesnt seem worth it yet, stats or armor seem like a better choice at the early level, mostly because you use all of your mana at 5 orb walking, or at 6 ult/orb walking.


No, but you will have frenzy in time so you don't need to opt for treads instead of bot. Bot wins. And also, the armor is better than stats because it gives 5% magic reduction per level, and that's just as useful as the slow/dmg.

On April 06 2008 06:08 FzeroXx wrote:
Scatter shot is *the* single most worthless skill you can possibly imagine. Don't ever, ever learn it, or think of using it. If by accident you learn this skill, alt Q Q before you can manage to by accident use it too.


But it does do damage to buildings too, so it can be used to last-hit towers. I never play with it but I've seen good players do it. Also, rpf, the only way sniper is useful in team fights is if he hides in the bushes and unloads on the opposing team without them realizing it, which is pretty rare and really hard to do for the sniper. But if that's the case, and he manages to deal damage without being bothered then it's good. Of course that only works if you don't add attk animation items like desolator, life steal, skadi, etc.


...and battle hunger is sometimes useful if you have a hero like bone fletcher or gondar on your lane in low levels as a last-hit-nuke-sort-of thing.

Besides, I bet I can think of a more useless spell, something off one of the 3 elements of the panda perhaps.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
April 05 2008 23:07 GMT
#318
The one reason i dont like frenzy low levels (or even mid levels, sometimes even at all) is that one disable and you just opened yourself up for huge amounts of damage intake. unless you are against an all int team (which is lol in its own right, and you probably wont see at high level games often), you will be facing some sort of damage dealer that uses his auto attack to deal his damage. So 1 hex/shackle/stun/whatever with frenzy on, is pretty much you getting raped if you don't have a huge advantage in items.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 06 2008 08:11 GMT
#319
On April 06 2008 01:43 punt wrote:
well tt strat worked for me so im just sharing it.. oh never mind.. no worries..


Well "tt" then you're playing against even bigger noobs than yourself, no offense. Seriously, drop the attitude "it worked for me so it's good". It didn't work for you because it's good, it worked for you 'cause you played noobs that don't know how to fight Viper.

I think someone came up with a great analogy in this or the other topic about "I got BASHERZZZZ with Tiny once and I OMGWTFBBQRAPED everyone, therefore Basherzzzz on Tiny -> teh 1337 itam build loel". This is just the same attitude, the same thing, and it's just wrong like that. Vanguard...christ. No wonder there are so many bad DotAers out there Some guys just never want to learn.
Complete the cycle!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 06 2008 09:03 GMT
#320
did anyone think lightofheaven was turtling a little too hard in game 3 with bb?
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