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Manit0u
Poland17713 Posts
I did some testing with my friends and pretty sick combo with scourge would be: Lich Shadow Fiend Magnataur Tidehunter Pitlord It's quite astounding what happens when you do it like: Tide ulti -> magna ulti -> pitlord pit+rain+explosions -> lich ulti -> sf ulti Horrendous damage and enemies can't really do much about it, definitely can't run away. We didn't manage to come up with similarily good sent lineup though  Any ideas?btw. 6.50 beta has been leaked: http://www.wtfdota.com/ | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
sent: silencer thd potm furion bm What'd you think?  | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17713 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
I don't like ult dependant lineups. | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
also doing some theorycrafting, seems like Expulsion (an ability many forego it seems) would be kind of decent with ES's ult | ||
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k3fka
Argentina1267 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14910 Posts
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On January 10 2008 01:46 Manit0u wrote: So, before we get 6.50 what do you think are the best hero combos for Scourge and Sentinel? I did some testing with my friends and pretty sick combo with scourge would be: Lich Shadow Fiend Magnataur Tidehunter Pitlord It's quite astounding what happens when you do it like: Tide ulti -> magna ulti -> pitlord pit+rain+explosions -> lich ulti -> sf ulti Horrendous damage and enemies can't really do much about it, definitely can't run away. We didn't manage to come up with similarily good sent lineup though Any ideas?btw. 6.50 beta has been leaked: http://www.wtfdota.com/ Mass AoE is owned at lanes now. 1-1.5 years ago, It was all about area damage and own but now, at competitive play you need good lane controllers and gankers, this team will owned and with mass BKB's you can't do nothing. There's no dream hero combo atm, everything depends on your teammate's style and choice to control your lane good. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
EDIT: oh i didnt know this was lineup thread. OP's lineup is garbage btw | ||
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naventus
United States1337 Posts
But as said, you will be punished to no end by a good team. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
Okay he does suck laning often | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
On January 10 2008 03:36 k3fka wrote: I'm curious, how do you jungle effectively?my best combo would be Magna soloing mid , Qop soloing up , Sven Lina down and Bm Jungling. I've tried it with heroes like Naix (the old one) and Axe, but after about level four I fall behind in levels. I don't have a replay so obviously people can't pick out specific mistakes, but some general tips on how to effectively jungle would be good. I always avoid the higher level neutral creep spots until I'm actually high enough to take them on, so I don't know. | ||
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naventus
United States1337 Posts
Naix is an example of a hero that can't really jungle before gaining some levels in lane first - he's just too slow. Furion, on the other hand, is like a really easy jungle - can do with just clarities. | ||
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Gaetele
Esper760 Posts
Beastmaster Broodmother Bristleback All heroes that have perfect jungling capability with not much more than some Clarities and later on a Bottle (Broodmother does fine with just a Ring of Basilius, no Bottle needed). Not to mention other good jungling heroes like Undying Centaur Axe etc. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On January 10 2008 06:14 rpf wrote: I'm curious, how do you jungle effectively? I've tried it with heroes like Naix (the old one) and Axe, but after about level four I fall behind in levels. I don't have a replay so obviously people can't pick out specific mistakes, but some general tips on how to effectively jungle would be good. I always avoid the higher level neutral creep spots until I'm actually high enough to take them on, so I don't know. learn the basic idea to jungle with your hero (some just attack move like undying, some can easily double or triple pull spawns like furion and beastmaster, etc) learn the jungle pulls and practice a bit. i had a chart somewhere that showed all the timings. i dunno where it is. if in doubt, pull at ;53. bottom sentinel into lane pull is at ;15 or ;45, lowest level scourge is at ;11 or ;41 here's a vid that got me to practice jungling: btw jungling sux. edit: can't find my chart, so i shamelessly steal some from internet + Show Spoiler [pull timings] + ![[image loading]](http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/nameless1one/creeppullmap.png) + Show Spoiler [respawn zones] + ![[image loading]](http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff54/Dotapic/MainRegions_small3.png) respawn zones = if anything is in that area during the respawn time, nothing will spawn. this includes corpses, heros and so on. corpses take 16seconds to decay iirc | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On January 10 2008 09:00 paper wrote: 6.5 leaked doesnt seem to work O_O What do you mean? IIRC there is a protection if you try playing it in multiplayer, so you have to spoof your name to IceFrog or some tester  I didn't have any problems in single player to check out the item changes, so I doubt you would. Also, the hacked versions of Xantan have this protection removed.If the map doesn't start at all, probably the download screwed up and you should just redownload. Once I even had a corrupted download, that actually ran in the game and the map had some strange and widly different textures all over the place, lol. | ||
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paper
13196 Posts
orchid = oblivion x3 = -_-;;;; | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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Gaetele
Esper760 Posts
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k3fka
Argentina1267 Posts
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
He can't jungle, because his spells cost too much mana. Pit lord could be useful if he's same level as everyone else and as rich, but that's going to be difficult. There are a lot of heroes that are ruled out of lineups because they have no lane control, and I think pit lord will be one of them. | ||
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Goliath_DARK
Macedonia2 Posts
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Goliath_DARK
Macedonia2 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On January 12 2008 09:11 k3fka wrote: Pitlord , when its allower on Serious league play , will be used in a pusher strat. His last hit is very good , he has 2 aoe skills , 1 aoe disable and has BoT for everyone. The problem is in which lane can pitlord go , so im guessing some of the pro's will find a way to jungle with him effectively..... Pugna >>>>> Pushers Lina/Lesh/Zeus >>> Pushers Tinker > Pushers (much lesser than Zeus) KotL/Harb/NA > Pushers (you are going to be boned in lanes and during pushes) Pitlord is still a bad hero, reason why his AoE skills suck is because they are semi-channeling meaning they don't do well early game because there aren't any creeps to take down because of the constant moving of the lanes and Corpse isn't worth shit till late mid. His BoT is probably now the worst ultimate since the nerf. And Jungling a Pitlord is not going to yield anything significant, hes nowhere near the level of the other junglers in terms of usefulness mid game. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 19 2008 22:42 Goliath_DARK wrote: the best hero cobination for sentinel are yournero enigma sven earthshaker and omninight So uh, Pugna will rape lets see 3 of those heroes outright with Ward in team fights, control any combo of those in lanes, yeah best line up ever. Actually, that line up in general will get raped in lanes and in ganks against the standard scourge QoP, Lock, Sand King, Lesh, CK/SK/NA/Mag/Spec/FV/TB/etc. Not to mention no one plays LM anymore. | ||
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