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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
January 13 2010 20:09 GMT
#14281
Ok, so for the nuetral creeps you can control, which are the best to get (especially for noobs like me who can't micro them perfectly). I usually don't play ophelia, but I get whispering helm on puppet which seems moderately effective, and I can stack camps and whatnot with the extra unit for farming later. I like to get the minotaur, as the enemies don't normally attack the creeps and I can run them in and AOE stun easily. Are there other creeps worth getting (vulture)?
I can already see the ending
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 13 2010 20:44 GMT
#14282
Minotaur is probably best. I dunno if skeleking's immobilise is any good. Not sure about the antlore healer either. If you just have a whispering helm, minotaur is the best for the aoe stun.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
January 13 2010 21:22 GMT
#14283
Cat man champion is pretty ballin too
Power of Ze
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
January 13 2010 21:50 GMT
#14284
My favorite combo on ophelia is minotaur, cat man champion, and the wolf guy for the damage aura. It's great for ganks.

Vulture's sort of lackluster since he doesn't do much damage and he has to stay stationary for tornado. Vagabond champion (or whatever it's name is) is pretty good too.
good vibes only
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 13 2010 21:54 GMT
#14285
that snotter dood is ballin' with his +ms aura, throw in the slower person from the easy camp and a catman. you be slowin' people down imo
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
January 13 2010 21:58 GMT
#14286
Vulture's tornado can do a lotta damage in a teamfight, actually. If I dominate a creep with Whispering Helm, I try to dominate a Vulture. After you're done stacking ancients you can sit the vulture behind a tower, bind him to a hotkey and cast tornado whenever the tower is threatened.
TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
January 13 2010 21:59 GMT
#14287
It depends on what you need. The vagabond leader i awesome early on because of his +100 nuke and +3 hp aura, both of which become obsolete mid -> late game. Minotaur and wolf are the two best creeps as wolf has a godly dmg aura and minotaur both has a stun and an +15 ias aura. The skeleton is great in combination with catman champion or minotaur, as he can stun from afar and then you can sneak up for another stun later.

The +ms guy is only good when you have lvl 4 command as he has too little hp and instadies vs anything unless you have lots of +hp for him. Same goes for the vagabond with purge, who can be decent later.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 13 2010 22:04 GMT
#14288
On January 14 2010 00:55 SwaY- wrote:
oh they are, you look up match ID in the lobby and you download the replay and watch it in game.
tried it last night seems buggy but they are working.

Also who uses mods here like rune timer and injector?


Dunno what injector is but rune timer is a bit pile of annoying shit. Had 2 allies with it both in a team game so I got the joy of having "RUNE IN 15 SECONDS" spam every 2 minutes. It's not hard to remember runes spawn every 2 minutes. -_-
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
January 13 2010 22:08 GMT
#14289
k so i toggled both exclusive mode and vertical sync and i still get that weird glitchy shit every once in a while. but now (i dunno if it's just the new patches) but I can't alt tab hon anymore, and when I close hon my monitor brightness/gamma/contrast or something are waaay high. Even I load up broodwar and have to lower the gamma.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 13 2010 22:40 GMT
#14290
The tab out part is from exclusive mode it basically shuts off your desktop for the time playing. I turned it off for my windows 7 machine so i can alt tab freely without a weird reset in between.

Oh a side not i played a game last night where abilities animations would show up maybe only half the time very strange to play.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 14 2010 02:16 GMT
#14291
testie tygs and i are having an argument.

to prove that i am right i need you to answer this question.

do you live in huntsville?
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 14 2010 02:30 GMT
#14292
once discovered, never forgotten
@QxGDarkCell ._.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
January 14 2010 03:53 GMT
#14293
So where do I find all the HoN action?
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
TL+ Member
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
January 14 2010 04:41 GMT
#14294
On January 14 2010 07:04 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 00:55 SwaY- wrote:
oh they are, you look up match ID in the lobby and you download the replay and watch it in game.
tried it last night seems buggy but they are working.

Also who uses mods here like rune timer and injector?


Dunno what injector is but rune timer is a bit pile of annoying shit. Had 2 allies with it both in a team game so I got the joy of having "RUNE IN 15 SECONDS" spam every 2 minutes. It's not hard to remember runes spawn every 2 minutes. -_-


injector lets you zoom the camara further then the normal UI
Cant find the friend that hooks me up with the newest version so im playing normally which isnt that bad after tha 10th or so game.
Do it beautifully
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 04:55:39
January 14 2010 04:54 GMT
#14295
On January 14 2010 12:53 R1CH wrote:
So where do I find all the HoN action?

You mean channels or need an account?

Channels
clan teamliquid
clan five
clan pokemon something another
etc
although i will say during my like 2 weeks of play or so only had a few ih moments and rest just seems to follow ppl.

Beta key is easy to get
http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/hon-beta-giveaway/
That link usually has a few keys every week just need an email address as usual.
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
January 14 2010 05:19 GMT
#14296
sven is my new favorite carry
and he got bufffed:D

real easy to rape a lane and get choken free farm, then HoD and stack ancients.

BkB->S&Y

with 2nd dominate get a centaur and become a 4s aoe stun with ridiculous dps gg suckers
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 05:38:01
January 14 2010 05:37 GMT
#14297
I still prefer Arachna cuz shes like drow and viper my fav carrys, i like to orb walk else most carries are too boring to play for me.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 14 2010 05:43 GMT
#14298
On January 13 2010 15:31 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 13:21 GhostKorean wrote:
When you break out of invis from an assassin's shroud with an attack you get extra damage. Puppet Master has a skill that causes him to crit in an aoe every fifth attack. His ult makes him do extra damage to a target when he attacks the puppet. When you factor all the +dmg apparently he does a fuckton of damage, so much that he one shots most squishies (from what i've heard)



yes people have done that, but its not really that great. You spend alot of money on a gimmick, and leave yourself with little hp, less survivability imo in team fights (because you will have no hp still) and it gives no substantial bonus's. One shot a glacius? sure, but eventually you will be countered by wards/dust or even a gem, and you have to cast your ult before the lothars anyway, so you really leave yourself to a gimmick with no survivability.

Isn't the standard PM build a whispering helm into a shieldbreaker or something of that sort? At least you're getting increased move speed when you go invis with your lothars. If that isn't what most people build on puppet master, whats the build people follow for survivability?
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
January 14 2010 05:48 GMT
#14299
On January 14 2010 14:43 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 15:31 Alventenie wrote:
On January 13 2010 13:21 GhostKorean wrote:
When you break out of invis from an assassin's shroud with an attack you get extra damage. Puppet Master has a skill that causes him to crit in an aoe every fifth attack. His ult makes him do extra damage to a target when he attacks the puppet. When you factor all the +dmg apparently he does a fuckton of damage, so much that he one shots most squishies (from what i've heard)



yes people have done that, but its not really that great. You spend alot of money on a gimmick, and leave yourself with little hp, less survivability imo in team fights (because you will have no hp still) and it gives no substantial bonus's. One shot a glacius? sure, but eventually you will be countered by wards/dust or even a gem, and you have to cast your ult before the lothars anyway, so you really leave yourself to a gimmick with no survivability.

Isn't the standard PM build a whispering helm into a shieldbreaker or something of that sort? At least you're getting increased move speed when you go invis with your lothars. If that isn't what most people build on puppet master, whats the build people follow for survivability?

BKB, BKB, Refresher for BKB (doesnt actually work)
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 14 2010 05:55 GMT
#14300
On January 14 2010 14:48 Butigroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 14:43 GhostKorean wrote:
On January 13 2010 15:31 Alventenie wrote:
On January 13 2010 13:21 GhostKorean wrote:
When you break out of invis from an assassin's shroud with an attack you get extra damage. Puppet Master has a skill that causes him to crit in an aoe every fifth attack. His ult makes him do extra damage to a target when he attacks the puppet. When you factor all the +dmg apparently he does a fuckton of damage, so much that he one shots most squishies (from what i've heard)



yes people have done that, but its not really that great. You spend alot of money on a gimmick, and leave yourself with little hp, less survivability imo in team fights (because you will have no hp still) and it gives no substantial bonus's. One shot a glacius? sure, but eventually you will be countered by wards/dust or even a gem, and you have to cast your ult before the lothars anyway, so you really leave yourself to a gimmick with no survivability.

Isn't the standard PM build a whispering helm into a shieldbreaker or something of that sort? At least you're getting increased move speed when you go invis with your lothars. If that isn't what most people build on puppet master, whats the build people follow for survivability?

BKB, BKB, Refresher for BKB (doesnt actually work)

Could I go harkon's after the BKB? I heard it's quite good after the recent buff
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