Ok, so for the nuetral creeps you can control, which are the best to get (especially for noobs like me who can't micro them perfectly). I usually don't play ophelia, but I get whispering helm on puppet which seems moderately effective, and I can stack camps and whatnot with the extra unit for farming later. I like to get the minotaur, as the enemies don't normally attack the creeps and I can run them in and AOE stun easily. Are there other creeps worth getting (vulture)?

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22212 Posts

January 13 2010 20:44 GMT

#14282

Minotaur is probably best. I dunno if skeleking's immobilise is any good. Not sure about the antlore healer either. If you just have a whispering helm, minotaur is the best for the aoe stun.

Elegance

Canada917 Posts

January 13 2010 21:22 GMT

#14283

Cat man champion is pretty ballin too

Meta

United States6225 Posts

January 13 2010 21:50 GMT

#14284

My favorite combo on ophelia is minotaur, cat man champion, and the wolf guy for the damage aura. It's great for ganks.

Vulture's sort of lackluster since he doesn't do much damage and he has to stay stationary for tornado. Vagabond champion (or whatever it's name is) is pretty good too.

Dark.Carnival

United States5095 Posts

January 13 2010 21:54 GMT

#14285

that snotter dood is ballin' with his +ms aura, throw in the slower person from the easy camp and a catman. you be slowin' people down imo

Tadzio

3340 Posts

January 13 2010 21:58 GMT

#14286

Vulture's tornado can do a lotta damage in a teamfight, actually. If I dominate a creep with Whispering Helm, I try to dominate a Vulture. After you're done stacking ancients you can sit the vulture behind a tower, bind him to a hotkey and cast tornado whenever the tower is threatened.

TS-Rupbar

Sweden1089 Posts

January 13 2010 21:59 GMT

#14287

It depends on what you need. The vagabond leader i awesome early on because of his +100 nuke and +3 hp aura, both of which become obsolete mid -> late game. Minotaur and wolf are the two best creeps as wolf has a godly dmg aura and minotaur both has a stun and an +15 ias aura. The skeleton is great in combination with catman champion or minotaur, as he can stun from afar and then you can sneak up for another stun later.

The +ms guy is only good when you have lvl 4 command as he has too little hp and instadies vs anything unless you have lots of +hp for him. Same goes for the vagabond with purge, who can be decent later.

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

January 13 2010 22:04 GMT

#14288

On January 14 2010 00:55 SwaY- wrote:
oh they are, you look up match ID in the lobby and you download the replay and watch it in game.
tried it last night seems buggy but they are working.

Also who uses mods here like rune timer and injector?

Dunno what injector is but rune timer is a bit pile of annoying shit. Had 2 allies with it both in a team game so I got the joy of having "RUNE IN 15 SECONDS" spam every 2 minutes. It's not hard to remember runes spawn every 2 minutes. -_-

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

January 13 2010 22:08 GMT

#14289

k so i toggled both exclusive mode and vertical sync and i still get that weird glitchy shit every once in a while. but now (i dunno if it's just the new patches) but I can't alt tab hon anymore, and when I close hon my monitor brightness/gamma/contrast or something are waaay high. Even I load up broodwar and have to lower the gamma.

semantics

10040 Posts

January 13 2010 22:40 GMT

#14290

The tab out part is from exclusive mode it basically shuts off your desktop for the time playing. I turned it off for my windows 7 machine so i can alt tab freely without a weird reset in between.

Oh a side not i played a game last night where abilities animations would show up maybe only half the time very strange to play.

Nitrogen

United States5345 Posts

January 14 2010 02:16 GMT

#14291

testie tygs and i are having an argument.

to prove that i am right i need you to answer this question.

do you live in huntsville?

Dark.Carnival

United States5095 Posts

January 14 2010 02:30 GMT

#14292

once discovered, never forgotten

R1CH

Netherlands10342 Posts

January 14 2010 03:53 GMT

#14293

So where do I find all the HoN action?

SwaY-

Dominican Republic463 Posts

January 14 2010 04:41 GMT

#14294

On January 14 2010 07:04 Goshawk. wrote:

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injector lets you zoom the camara further then the normal UI
Cant find the friend that hooks me up with the newest version so im playing normally which isnt that bad after tha 10th or so game.

semantics

10040 Posts

January 14 2010 04:54 GMT

#14295

On January 14 2010 12:53 R1CH wrote:
So where do I find all the HoN action?

You mean channels or need an account?

Channels
clan teamliquid
clan five
clan pokemon something another
etc
although i will say during my like 2 weeks of play or so only had a few ih moments and rest just seems to follow ppl.

Beta key is easy to get
http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/hon-beta-giveaway/
That link usually has a few keys every week just need an email address as usual.

Butigroove

Seychelles2061 Posts

January 14 2010 05:19 GMT

#14296

sven is my new favorite carry
and he got bufffed:D

real easy to rape a lane and get choken free farm, then HoD and stack ancients.

BkB->S&Y

with 2nd dominate get a centaur and become a 4s aoe stun with ridiculous dps gg suckers

semantics

10040 Posts

January 14 2010 05:37 GMT

#14297

I still prefer Arachna cuz shes like drow and viper my fav carrys, i like to orb walk else most carries are too boring to play for me.

GhostKorean

United States2330 Posts

January 14 2010 05:43 GMT

#14298

On January 13 2010 15:31 Alventenie wrote:

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yes people have done that, but its not really that great. You spend alot of money on a gimmick, and leave yourself with little hp, less survivability imo in team fights (because you will have no hp still) and it gives no substantial bonus's. One shot a glacius? sure, but eventually you will be countered by wards/dust or even a gem, and you have to cast your ult before the lothars anyway, so you really leave yourself to a gimmick with no survivability.

Isn't the standard PM build a whispering helm into a shieldbreaker or something of that sort? At least you're getting increased move speed when you go invis with your lothars. If that isn't what most people build on puppet master, whats the build people follow for survivability?

Butigroove

Seychelles2061 Posts

January 14 2010 05:48 GMT

#14299

On January 14 2010 14:43 GhostKorean wrote:

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BKB, BKB, Refresher for BKB (doesnt actually work)