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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
December 24 2008 07:36 GMT
#5581
On and off with my housemates, yea.

I'm pretty terrible.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 24 2008 12:53 GMT
#5582
On December 24 2008 14:50 L wrote:
I don't think anyone minds if you come back and play? In fact you probably should, because that way you can get very much better very quickly. You will get criticized because you deserve criticism, but don't take it as a personal thing.

I suggest you read the replays thread and watch some of the replays posted later on. They answer a lot of common questions.


I dunno, I never really get any suggestions or criticicizizmz. I just get loled on for not getting dagger on Axe before treads :/
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
December 24 2008 13:05 GMT
#5583
Merry Xmas my fellow DotAnians
aka. Samael
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 13:26:57
December 24 2008 13:26 GMT
#5584
On December 24 2008 21:53 Mynock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 14:50 L wrote:
I don't think anyone minds if you come back and play? In fact you probably should, because that way you can get very much better very quickly. You will get criticized because you deserve criticism, but don't take it as a personal thing.

I suggest you read the replays thread and watch some of the replays posted later on. They answer a lot of common questions.


I dunno, I never really get any suggestions or criticicizizmz. I just get loled on for not getting dagger on Axe before treads :/


Well you deserve that, just think logically, you're a smart person, I know you.

What is Axe for? Tanking, and dealing damage while he gets hit. Which is good, as he can force people to hit him. What way can he force people to hit him? Berserker's Call, his best ability. No matter what stuff you put on him, his DPS will be pretty terrible.

What is the conclusion from this? He's a guy who needs health, health, and some more health. Also, some armor can't hurt but his armor scaling is fine(not to mention he gets shitton of armor from using BC). What else does he need? He needs to effectively catch every opposing hero to force 'em pounding him, returning damage but MOST IMPORTANTLY, giving other team members ample time to focus their shit on whatever opponent has to be burnt down.

What does treads give him? IAS, negligible. HP, not negligible, but not cost-effective either. Get something else if you want HP. -> but you don't need HP first. You need dagger. ASAP. Even if you die (due to not having enough hp to tank 3-5 heroes), it still wins the fight for your team. Repeat a few times, and you won the game.

Being able to think this through is fundamental to improving. Testie is not only good for having excellent mechanical skills - he knows the insides and outs of every hero (mostly due to mass gaming, but he's a quick learner).
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
December 24 2008 13:46 GMT
#5585
Also, Merry X-mas you faggots.
Complete the cycle!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 24 2008 13:50 GMT
#5586
Amazingly enough I know all that. There is a reason I don't get dagger first, neither on Axe or on Bradwarden. Two reasons actually, one is TL-dota specific. First one is I just know my mechanics are not there with my knowledge of heroes. I studied them all and learned what they need, but I just CAN'T USE them effectively yet. I might get the dagger on Magnus or ES or Tiny or whatever, I just can't execute the combo right and at the right time so it will still fail regardless. Second is lag. I get 250 ms at best to Mr testicles (Devaz is usually better, but he's never around anymore), so I screw up half of my Berserkers stuns or w/e because of that. I'll learn to adjust, it's just that I know that unless I have some more survivability and speed (can't get BoT quite soon enough) first, I'll just die more and end up doing less than maybe catching up to somebody in a team fight and pulling off the BC on them.

I know my limits, I act accordingly. I'll learn to use that shit later, just not right away.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 24 2008 13:53 GMT
#5587
Cause of the delay, the right place for me to farm is usually our jungle or an empty lane :o
takemenow909
Profile Joined May 2006
92 Posts
December 24 2008 19:02 GMT
#5588
any1 playing?
geegee
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 24 2008 20:35 GMT
#5589
use shift to counter delay.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
TL-GazeRocker
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada61 Posts
December 24 2008 20:47 GMT
#5590
wut does shift do O_O?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
December 24 2008 21:05 GMT
#5591
queue commands ...
Hates Fun🤔
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 24 2008 23:24 GMT
#5592
How does that help... Blink + shift-Berserkers?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 23:59:44
December 24 2008 23:58 GMT
#5593
...you can't blink and shift call because you'll just blink from where you are toward the location, and if youre already in range you dont need to queue it, just spam E D:

so if youre not in range, shift queue move to a location near your target, shift blink, shift call
Hates Fun🤔
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 25 2008 00:56 GMT
#5594
I liked Shinbi's question regarding dagger.
It's cute.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-25 01:21:42
December 25 2008 01:18 GMT
#5595
On December 25 2008 09:56 MYM.Testie wrote:
I liked Shinbi's question regarding dagger.
It's cute.


?? the only question i asked was in vent which you weren't in, so i have no idea what you're thinking about
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 25 2008 01:22 GMT
#5596
holy crap this thread is a YEAR OLD and nobody said anything
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
December 25 2008 01:30 GMT
#5597
On December 25 2008 08:58 paper wrote:
...you can't blink and shift call because you'll just blink from where you are toward the location, and if youre already in range you dont need to queue it, just spam E D:

so if youre not in range, shift queue move to a location near your target, shift blink, shift call

Yeah it how you should also eat tree to keep moving instead of eating a tree then spaming the direction you want to go shift eat a tree then right click to where you want to go.

It's also good when your are TP TP to the tower and shift right click where you want to go and you will move right after you tp.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-25 04:08:54
December 25 2008 04:05 GMT
#5598
shift blink shift call. If there's delay, it'll still come out the moment he blinks which is the entire point.

His blink might be misplaced, which is obvious since its the start of the combo, if he's got delay, blinking then non-shift calling gives his opponents time to stun or walk away. Mashing e and d doesn't solve your problem if your commands are being registered a second late. No one's going to telegraph a blink call from 2-3 seconds away, its always a reaction to a clump of opponents during pushes. During ganks, your opponent only has 1 way to run, so delay is normally irrelevant.

dont' use it 100% of time, but during telegraphed combos, like tiny avatoss with delay, it can be a lifesaver.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
December 25 2008 17:45 GMT
#5599
Merry Christmas DotA thread!
twitter: @terrancem
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 25 2008 18:53 GMT
#5600
Merry Christmas to everyone here, looking forward to playing again
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