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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:38 GMT
#5021
the answer to your question is yes, I think assuming backdooring raxes is not allowed is good enough, so therefore I disagree with you, I also think if you think otherwise than you are retarded. So end of argument.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 22:45:15
December 04 2008 22:39 GMT
#5022
I'd like to comment more fully, but I will refrain from doing so.

On the other hand I'll say some key things since seeing people argue about this is so retarded. Its giving me a headache. Nothing is gained from name-calling and pointing fingers.

Everyone posting here saying that icefrog should implement a fix for no BD is a retard. Clear and simple. Yes I just name called. Here's why:

1. There's game exploits in every game, and meta-game players agree on things that are cheap or give an unfair advantage. Just look at starcraft, dozens of glitches that are banned. If drone floating was never patched are you to say blizzard never fixed it so it must be fine?
2. There are very, very clearly understood backdoor rules by players of leagues. Just like sc where progamer code of rules apply even if the leagues didn't implement the rules, people who scrim [ aka to get better or play competitively ] don't break these rules.

Maybe one day icefrog will do that, and what will the people who are opposed to it say then? They'll just look like morons. Look how long it took to stop pooling...do you think stopping BD isn't on his to-do list? Oh idk maybe Icefrog thinks he doesn't have to spoon feed general codes upheld by competitive players into his map. [In theory] he has other things to fix like balance and heroes.

As for the replay I watched it and as testie said it was a dumb game. Testie's team didn't deserve to win and Zulu's team didn't deserve to lose. The only thing to take from that is to not play with Testie because now you know ahead of time how he will react in that circumstance. You should be glad from the experience. You should also know by now that his team will probably defend him blindly. Kinda disappointed in how you reacted zulu. Its not like the way sentinel played [ nevermind who the players were ] would ever last through more than 1 game in a league/tournament setting. They would not be allowed to play. Just take the high road.

Live2Win is also wrong.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:44 GMT
#5023
Are you kidding dude? Next time I'm going abaddon/weaver, I'll hide a chicken in Testie's base, tp there to steal items and kill shit all game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:45 GMT
#5024
Also I'm playing an IH right now with xsk_enigma aioefaj
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
December 04 2008 22:46 GMT
#5025
Maybe there's a misunderstanding.

You were right to be angry. But also you should just drop it since TL dota isn't going anywhere except TL dota.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:49 GMT
#5026
Ok then after reading Ack's post, I agree that I should not reacted the way I should. I apologize for getting angry and starting a fight, I also apologize for the flames I wrote. It's understandable you guys aren't clear on BD rules. I learned Dota in a very different setting than you guys so I should not assume these rules are universal. However I still dislike Testie for what he did, but I should've handled it in a better manner.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
December 04 2008 22:52 GMT
#5027
Sounds like the zulu I've come to know
Maybe things will stop now. You guys can go back to spamming asdf like the thread is supposed to be.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 22:54 GMT
#5028
ack called me a retard
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 04 2008 22:57 GMT
#5029
people should bd more, we already shot past 250 pages with just one game!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 04 2008 22:58 GMT
#5030
lol comparing bd with glitches.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 04 2008 22:58 GMT
#5031
So anyway, I found a coin on the street today and used it in a vending machine to buy juice. The sun came out and my day was bright. Then I lived happily ever after.

Tru storie.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 22:59 GMT
#5032
"...There are very, very clearly understood backdoor rules by players of leagues..."
"...people who scrim [ aka to get better or play competitively ] don't break these rules..."
we dont have a "team" to call THE TL Dota team, we dont participate in tournaments, leagues, competitively, etc
the thread is called "[DotA] Let's Play~!!" suggesting casual games
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 04 2008 23:02 GMT
#5033
[image loading]


That's what happens man... that's what happens...
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 04 2008 23:04 GMT
#5034
moar like "darkcell has chosen techies"

amirite
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
December 04 2008 23:12 GMT
#5035
R!en has chosen KOTL.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 04 2008 23:12 GMT
#5036
On December 05 2008 07:39 Ack1027 wrote:
Live2Win is also wrong.


care to elaborate?

Kind of unfair to say I'm wrong without stating what part of w/e I said was wrong.... I don't think you even read clearly on what I wrote.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 23:20:19
December 04 2008 23:19 GMT
#5037
sorry ack, but the sc analogy was horrible lol. if blizz could completely rid of those glitches, they would.

also, BD and pooling should be legal.

throwing all your eggs in one basket (or hero) = rofl. might as well ban early-game push builds amirite?
Hates Fun🤔
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-05 00:05:45
December 04 2008 23:41 GMT
#5038
I don't care to elaborate simply because I don't want to get too heavily involved nor is it my place. TL dota is what it is. The sc analogy was used because this is TL afterall. None of you can honestly say that you've never played a game or watched a game where there aren't rules between players that aren't clearly stated for the nature of competition and fairness. Halo 1v1 is not competition, SSBM with items is not competition, Macros in starcraft is not competition. Nobody goes out and says hey I'm gonna get a macro keyboard for starcraft and if my opponent asks I'll just say I have a normal keyboard. [edit: to clarify I guess it would go something like: nobody would buy a macro keyboard and when asked about it say ' oh i'm used to playing with this so deal with it ' ] Things like this are understood. Some may ask, but the general population who keeps up with competitive sc know its dumb to cheat with macros on a special keyboard.

Live2Win you were wrong to say testie is wrong because of some hypocritical thing he said. He was wrong for breaking BD, not because he's a hypocrite. You may be right in pointing he's a hypocrite but that doesn't effect judgement on whether zulu or testie were right. Testie learned and plays dota mainly in an environment where BD'ing in scrims/cws is fair if the other team is ' turtling '.

On December 05 2008 07:59 bhp255 wrote:
"...There are very, very clearly understood backdoor rules by players of leagues..."
"...people who scrim [ aka to get better or play competitively ] don't break these rules..."
we dont have a "team" to call THE TL Dota team, we dont participate in tournaments, leagues, competitively, etc
the thread is called "[DotA] Let's Play~!!" suggesting casual games

which is why I suggested going back to asdf since that's what you like to do.

I simply said for people like zulu and myself, who learned to play [ and enjoy ] this game in a competitive atmosphere you can just learn not to play with people who will break said rules. Not difficult to understand.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 04 2008 23:56 GMT
#5039
On December 05 2008 08:41 Ack1027 wrote:... SSBM with items is not competition, ....


bit insulting to the west coast don't you think
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
December 05 2008 00:02 GMT
#5040
Played a capts game against 2 well known players and carried IMBA with tiny with my vigoss-like ganking (joking)

but really 16-1, 12 minute blink bottle
37 minute treads blink bottle cuirass
GG ;D

perfect replay to submit if i wanna get vouched to some kinda league.. ;S
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