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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
December 04 2008 18:02 GMT
#5001
"I won't criticize anyone personally anymore, just in general"

*a jump forward in time*

"FUCK YOU TESTIE YOU BDING FAGGITY FAGGOT FAGFAG FUCKASDKASDF"

<3 you bly.

Bigtime:

Yours truly.
Complete the cycle!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 18:03:35
December 04 2008 18:03 GMT
#5002
10/10 for extra scoop of irony based drama.

As of now me and bhp on the moral highroad of TL.

Edit: DC can come too.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 18:05 GMT
#5003
On December 05 2008 03:02 Naib wrote:
"I won't criticize anyone personally anymore, just in general"

*a jump forward in time*

"FUCK YOU TESTIE YOU BDING FAGGITY FAGGOT FAGFAG FUCKASDKASDF"

<3 you bly.

Bigtime:

Yours truly.


criticize them for their play, i wasn't criticizing testie for his play, his meepo is really good, i was flaming him for being a backdooring ass
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 18:24:26
December 04 2008 18:12 GMT
#5004
rumour has it he backdoors his sister from time to time too
oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
game time fegz
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 04 2008 18:14 GMT
#5005
Regardless, it is still banned in TL inhouses.
But I have done it in CW's and pubs.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 04 2008 19:19 GMT
#5006
Hmmm, I have to be on Bly's side here.

Testie was always agains BD's. I remember awhile back Ryugie or someone did that and Testie was all upset about it.

Then he goes and does a BD to win the game and pretends it's all good?

Sorry Nick, but that just doesn't seem to add up. Your excuse is that the "game was dragging on too long". I have to say that is a sad excuse. If it's dragging on too long then coordinate your team for a stronger push. If that's not possible then get your carries fat. With the entire jungle at your disposal it's not that hard. If you don't have strong enough carries than them then it's your team's fault for not picking the right heroes, or not pushing and winning when you had the chance.

Either way, you were the one most adamant about banning BD, so I think you're being a little hypocritical here.

Of course, I understand your point in saying you only care about BD in inhouses, and don't care about CWs and pubs, but really, that's just being overly technical and just hands down gay. I would understand if Ryugie did it, because I remember he and myself were for allowing BD. But if I remember correctly, you were completely against it, so for you to pull this on the reason that "it's just a CW" or "dragging too long" is just complete disrespect and well, just not cool.

Also, if any of you are wondering why I'm poking my nose in, is because I wanted to give a more unbiased opinion, as someone who was not there. I've read bly's complaint, and I've seen testie's explanation, and I have to admit that in my opinion, testie's wrong.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
December 04 2008 19:28 GMT
#5007
thanks l2w :3
Hates Fun🤔
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 21:42 GMT
#5008

i like BD as a last resort tho.... i cant say i have never BD'd or that i havent been BD'd
i actually find BDing kinda cool... it means that u are able to BD without getting urself killed and suffering a counterpush or smth
but anyways, im with L2W and roogy in allowing BDs
then again, i wonder what would become of dota if suddenly ppl started BDing 1st and 2nd towers too... cuz after all when ppl say BD i usually think BDing throne only

btw, is it considered BD if u were attacking tower and all creeps died, but yet u still attack tower?
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 22:15:54
December 04 2008 22:09 GMT
#5009
did you agree on BD rules before game?
no?
then bitch to icefrog.

edit: i'm also impartial as L2W is, since I wasn't there. except other side.
edit2: im on the pro-BD side, not on testie's side. that was just a cheap cop-out on his part but you can't blame it on him because the game allows it. so once again, either agree pre-game or bitch to icefrog. assumptions aren't good enough

edit3: @bhp, no that's not BD. but nobody has a precise definition of backdoor anyway so it's a stupid argument. "attacking when creeps aren't there" isn't precise, and is, in fact, done all the time in TL IHs, except it's okay because it's only for a few hundred HPs or something.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
December 04 2008 22:13 GMT
#5010
On December 05 2008 06:42 bhp255 wrote:

i like BD as a last resort tho.... i cant say i have never BD'd or that i havent been BD'd
i actually find BDing kinda cool... it means that u are able to BD without getting urself killed and suffering a counterpush or smth
but anyways, im with L2W and roogy in allowing BDs
then again, i wonder what would become of dota if suddenly ppl started BDing 1st and 2nd towers too... cuz after all when ppl say BD i usually think BDing throne only

btw, is it considered BD if u were attacking tower and all creeps died, but yet u still attack tower?

No, you can attack a tower even if all the creeps have died.
Aso i dont consider it BD when u attack a hero from behind a tower. That being illegal is just retarded. Also, imo, I don't agree with testie BDing that game, but I also think bly should not have lost his cool over some meager cw. That game we played was really frustrating for everyone. Our team was really weak early game because we were almost all caries vs a strong nuking team. Yet we managed to persevere and farm up till the Chinese team would just turtle for 30+ minutes prolonging a losing game. That game should not have gone longer then 60 minutes yet because of the Chinese teams tactics, they were able to keep defending while our team farmed enough for buybacks. It was a lame game and we should put it behind us instead of fighting about it.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 22:20:36
December 04 2008 22:19 GMT
#5011
On December 05 2008 07:13 nitram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2008 06:42 bhp255 wrote:

i like BD as a last resort tho.... i cant say i have never BD'd or that i havent been BD'd
i actually find BDing kinda cool... it means that u are able to BD without getting urself killed and suffering a counterpush or smth
but anyways, im with L2W and roogy in allowing BDs
then again, i wonder what would become of dota if suddenly ppl started BDing 1st and 2nd towers too... cuz after all when ppl say BD i usually think BDing throne only

btw, is it considered BD if u were attacking tower and all creeps died, but yet u still attack tower?

No, you can attack a tower even if all the creeps have died.
Aso i dont consider it BD when u attack a hero from behind a tower. That being illegal is just retarded.


/bd rant on
?? unless i'm misreading your post, that's just a towerdive and afaik always been considered legal?
here's food for thought - you dive a hero, kill him, tower's there with 50hp. do you kill it? is it BD? What if you would die to the tower by running but are capable of killing it? you MUST die then?

BD is such a fucking stupid concept in dota. i can't believe something so imprecise is actually trying to be enforced. ridiculous
/bd rant off.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:21 GMT
#5012
It was definitely more frustrating for us because we had a chance to win until Testie BD'd, I don't know why you guys think our turtling gives you the right to BD or makes it okay? You talk like as if they are on par in lameness, no dude, BDing is much worse, Testie cheated to win. End of story. And no I don't regret losing my cool, that shouldn't make what Testie did any more acceptable anyway unless you are 4 years old and get offended at curse words, they weren't even directed at you guys anyway, just Testie.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:22 GMT
#5013
On December 05 2008 07:19 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2008 07:13 nitram wrote:
On December 05 2008 06:42 bhp255 wrote:

i like BD as a last resort tho.... i cant say i have never BD'd or that i havent been BD'd
i actually find BDing kinda cool... it means that u are able to BD without getting urself killed and suffering a counterpush or smth
but anyways, im with L2W and roogy in allowing BDs
then again, i wonder what would become of dota if suddenly ppl started BDing 1st and 2nd towers too... cuz after all when ppl say BD i usually think BDing throne only

btw, is it considered BD if u were attacking tower and all creeps died, but yet u still attack tower?

No, you can attack a tower even if all the creeps have died.
Aso i dont consider it BD when u attack a hero from behind a tower. That being illegal is just retarded.


/bd rant on
?? unless i'm misreading your post, that's just a towerdive and afaik always been considered legal?
here's food for thought - you dive a hero, kill him, tower's there with 50hp. do you kill it? is it BD? What if you would die to the tower by running but are capable of killing it? you MUST die then?

BD is such a fucking stupid concept in dota. i can't believe something so imprecise is actually trying to be enforced. ridiculous
/bd rant off.


You can kill a tower if it's below 10% health, common knowledge, check the rules of every league to see if BD is allowed, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 22:27:44
December 04 2008 22:25 GMT
#5014
On December 05 2008 07:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2008 07:19 JeeJee wrote:
On December 05 2008 07:13 nitram wrote:
On December 05 2008 06:42 bhp255 wrote:

i like BD as a last resort tho.... i cant say i have never BD'd or that i havent been BD'd
i actually find BDing kinda cool... it means that u are able to BD without getting urself killed and suffering a counterpush or smth
but anyways, im with L2W and roogy in allowing BDs
then again, i wonder what would become of dota if suddenly ppl started BDing 1st and 2nd towers too... cuz after all when ppl say BD i usually think BDing throne only

btw, is it considered BD if u were attacking tower and all creeps died, but yet u still attack tower?

No, you can attack a tower even if all the creeps have died.
Aso i dont consider it BD when u attack a hero from behind a tower. That being illegal is just retarded.


/bd rant on
?? unless i'm misreading your post, that's just a towerdive and afaik always been considered legal?
here's food for thought - you dive a hero, kill him, tower's there with 50hp. do you kill it? is it BD? What if you would die to the tower by running but are capable of killing it? you MUST die then?

BD is such a fucking stupid concept in dota. i can't believe something so imprecise is actually trying to be enforced. ridiculous
/bd rant off.


You can kill a tower if it's below 10% health, common knowledge, check the rules of every league to see if BD is allowed, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.


k if tower is 130/1300 and you would die by running?
and i wasn't aware this was a league game.
wait, it wasn't.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 22:30:32
December 04 2008 22:29 GMT
#5015
yes if it's 131/1300 you have to die, most importantly testie wasn't backdooring our towers, he was backdooring our raxes. There are common rules in Dota like pooling and backdooring raxes that are disallowed by mutual consent, allowing them would be the exception. These rules are written in text for leagues, but because pub games don't have rules they are generally agreed upon. All of that has nothing to do with what we're talking about anyway.

Because Testie does not allow BD in TL IHs, he is against it and we are against it when we play CWs together. But somehow he thought it was okay just because the game was dragging on for too long or some retarded excuse.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:31 GMT
#5016
Also I'd like to add if you think what Testie did was okay, you are a retard and there's no point in arguing with you.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 04 2008 22:33 GMT
#5017
On December 05 2008 07:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes if it's 131/1300 you have to die, most importantly testie wasn't backdooring our towers, he was backdooring our raxes. There are common rules in Dota like pooling and backdooring raxes that are disallowed by mutual consent, allowing them would be the exception. These rules are written in text for leagues, but because pub games don't have rules they are generally agreed upon. All of that has nothing to do with what we're talking about anyway.


actually, 130/1300 is what i'm asking. also this has everything to do with what we're talking about
you just said non-league games don't have rules. this game was a non-league game. thus, any additional rules (beyond those enforced by dota itself) must be agreed upon. like i said earlier, assumptions aren't good enough. generally agreed upon doesn't imply 100% agree.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 04 2008 22:34 GMT
#5018
jeez you people are silly.

who the fuck cares, if the game was going for 80+mins you should be thanking him for ending it. at that point in the game neither side won, the only goal should be to end the fucker and move to the next game.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 22:34 GMT
#5019
if you're arguing that its ok to backdoor raxes if both teams didnt specifically state otherwise beforehand, then please stop talking because I will just assume you are a dumbass.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 04 2008 22:36 GMT
#5020
On December 05 2008 07:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if you're arguing that its ok to backdoor raxes if both teams didnt specifically state otherwise beforehand, then please stop talking because I will just assume you are a dumbass.


way to dodge the questions.
care to try again?

ah.. dota.. the people are much more entertaining than the actual game.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
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