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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 05:49:20
December 04 2008 05:49 GMT
#4981
BDs legal any time, geez

the only time i'd reconsider is if naga were in the game at 60+ minutes

(song of siren definitely needs a casting time lol)
Hates Fun🤔
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
December 04 2008 08:57 GMT
#4982
hey testie i guess you have to stop playing dota for a few days to prepare for the showmatch amirite?
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 04 2008 09:13 GMT
#4983
?
What showmatch? oO
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 04 2008 09:14 GMT
#4984
oh that =P
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
December 04 2008 10:12 GMT
#4985
lol
aka. Samael
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
December 04 2008 10:12 GMT
#4986
seems like testie is really in the know over here :D
aka. Samael
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
December 04 2008 11:22 GMT
#4987
I ambushed him on MSN at like 6 AM his time, so he probably wasn't fully aware of what he was agreeing to
chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
December 04 2008 12:17 GMT
#4988
You win dota games by not getting clicked on. Ever.
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
December 04 2008 14:20 GMT
#4989
nonono 2am est is dota time. tastie is gonna be busy
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
brambolius
Profile Joined January 2006
Netherlands448 Posts
December 04 2008 15:00 GMT
#4990
just had to chip in here.......

BD is part of the game, only blink into base is "illegal", and furion teleport.
the furion teleport thing has been made impossible some versions ago.

plz ppl, i die a little inside everytime some1 bitches about BDing.

IF YOU WANT SPECIAL RULES IN UR GAMES SAY SO UP FRONT.

thx, that was all
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
December 04 2008 15:25 GMT
#4991
On December 05 2008 00:00 brambolius wrote:
just had to chip in here.......

BD is part of the game, only blink into base is "illegal", and furion teleport.
the furion teleport thing has been made impossible some versions ago.

plz ppl, i die a little inside everytime some1 bitches about BDing.

IF YOU WANT SPECIAL RULES IN UR GAMES SAY SO UP FRONT.

thx, that was all


The game is better without backdooring.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 16:32 GMT
#4992
"Sure he may suck from time to time, but you never hate having him on your team because he's cool as balls."

ew, im cool as balls
but then again, balls arent that cool, are they?
O.o
im confuzzled
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 16:43 GMT
#4993
On December 04 2008 14:44 MYM.Testie wrote:
There was no pride, there was no nothing. You guys certainly didn't deserve to win that CW sitting in your base, too afraid to even go into your jungle. We certainly didn't deserve to win because let's face it, our players played too poorly.

Meh, it wasn't an inhouse. I felt no obligation to uphold rules that were only for inhouses.
I am not in any leagues nor do I follow them, I do not know their rules. I figured in CW, anything goes when the chips are down.

I picked meepo+carries because the lanes weren't THAT weak and I expected them to have a losing record (not so large at first) that would eventually even out, and eventually give us the advantage. It didn't.

As far as I knew, BD was banned in inhouses only, we had a large debate about it with Ryugie where he said it should be allowed etc etc. I said it lowered the quality of the games. That game was already of the lowest quality of dota games i've ever seen. Right up there with a techies camping a base with guinsoo+linkens.

Did I do something wrong? Yup. Would I be angry if the same were done to me? Yup. But had we lost I wouldn't have been mad, or experienced anything other than, "wow they fed a lot." I could tell when it was 1-17 that it was going to be ridiculous. ;p

To be honest, is was a shit game that needed to end. It's not like it was a very team oriented, insanely intense game. It was probably the most boring meepo game i've ever played attacking your jungle for 50 minutes. I care not whether your team would have won. And i'm quite honest about these things, I let people know when i'll be mad at something and am quite explosive about shit that angers me.

I was more resigned and tired of waiting. I think everybody on our team felt the, "I'm sick of attacking our jungle attitude."

A fitting way to end one of the worst dota games i've ever seen.


Testie when you were bding we were raxing your mid, you weren't "tired of waiting" you were afraid you were going to lose. My team defended for 90min only to lose to BDing, how do you think we feel when you BD just because you feel like it? If you know it was wrong then at least don't pretend you didn't know it was illegal. BD is banned in CWs and you know it from having scrimed so much. I don't expect you to apologize because I know your ego is too big for that. What you did was of very low character, I hope you will realize that one day.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 16:44 GMT
#4994
On December 05 2008 00:00 brambolius wrote:
just had to chip in here.......

BD is part of the game, only blink into base is "illegal", and furion teleport.
the furion teleport thing has been made impossible some versions ago.

plz ppl, i die a little inside everytime some1 bitches about BDing.

IF YOU WANT SPECIAL RULES IN UR GAMES SAY SO UP FRONT.

thx, that was all


BD is not part of the game, it's banned in all major leagues and scrims unless specifically stated. Special rules = allowing BD, not disallowing it.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 16:46 GMT
#4995
but trying to look at it completely objectively, BD can be wrong, can be looked down upon, can be cheap, lame, etc, but u cant call it illegal if the rules were not explicitly agreed upon beforehand.
if BD was universally thought of as illegal and should never, under any circumstances, be allowed, icefrog would have already implemented it as a feature of the map. we saw that before a number of times, including what people call as "pooling." as of right now, it is impossible to share most items, and the only real way to "pool" someone would be to buy tangos or something and give them to the hero to be pooled, but that is just a waste. is it still illegal to pool in this way? no, but its not worth it (imo)
so, if BD was indeed universally despised, then it would have suffered the same fate as pooling or warding with birds. u might hold it against TL that they did not follow conventional rules, but u cant really say that they did not follow the established rules.
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 16:48 GMT
#4996
and sorry bly, if this might anger you, but i am just attempting to look at this with an unbiased perspective and as objectively as possible.
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
December 04 2008 16:50 GMT
#4997
on another note....
lol, who put void in here as a smiley?
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 16:56 GMT
#4998
bhp I understand your perspective. In your example of pooling, pooling has always been illegal for obvious reasons, but wasn't physically disallowed in game until recent versions. So just because Icefrog doesn't change something doesn't mean it might be okay sometimes.

If you look at the rules of every major league and pubs/inhouses, backdoor is disallowed in all of them. Disallowing BD is the standard. Therefore in every dota game, BD is assumed to be illegal unless stated otherwise, not the other way around. Most importantly though I know Testie knows it's illegal because of how many scrims he's played, and I don't think he denies that it was cheating, however from his post it seems like he still felt it was okay because the game was too boring or something. In that case the only argument is whether it was ok to BD because the game was dragging on for too long, the answer to that is no. So in the end I don't understand why there's even an argument.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 04 2008 17:13 GMT
#4999
Also rofl to cats for saying i'm not welcome in TL games anymore.

Cats you do not represent TL, your are Testie's bondage slave. There's no reason to ban me from TL games because you know, it was my team that got backdoored not yours. Good job defending your hero even when he blatantly cheated, shows even more how little self-respect you have.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 04 2008 17:51 GMT
#5000
cats doesnt come to TL so he wont see your msg
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