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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 00:00:45
January 18 2012 00:00 GMT
#32281
After ~800 games in 6 months of HoN, i think it is time to stop this game. I had no first hand experience with Dota before and that's probably why i played as much.

My conclusion is that the game could be way better with a few more things:

- IP ban / region. Who wants to play with people from South America ? Not me lol.

- cc 10 minutes. Some games are lost from the start, there is no point to play.

- Less ridiculous carries. I'm not whining about balance, afterall everyone can pick a ridiculous carry for himself and you have a lot of different choices possible lol. Nah it is more from an entertainment standpoint. The funniest games i had were when people all picked non carry heroes. Games are much more back and forth, more kills, more action, less ricing and everyone can be useful even during late game. I'm sorry but i don't appreciate games with a farmed magebane or gemini.

- Reward people who buy courriers

- Reward more people who buy wards. It is absolutly ridiculous i have to play support in every game otherwise i know that i will never get a ward up.

- Banlist for MM ( just for the guys in your team )

- Remove Scout and Nh from the game.

Overall i would give 3/5 to this game and probably 4/5 if you are able to get a proper friend list ( too bad i had to solo queue all the time lol ).
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 18 2012 01:16 GMT
#32282
I agree with the IP ban one, miss the old banlist in wc3 dota where you could actually get games with all players that spoke your language...but if youre losing to scout nh your team is just too jew to buy dust, truth
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 18 2012 01:18 GMT
#32283
On January 18 2012 08:49 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 06:05 Br3ezy wrote:
Magmus is awesome! Pebbles is awesome! They are so good for winning 1v5 games haha. You can't really trust your team mates till like 1800. Even in the 1700s, I wouldn't trust people


Before 1650+ I find it's best to just do your thing without giving too much thought to anything. Of course, if you can TP gank, aid your teammates and stuff like that, it's usually going to benefit you. But it's not like anyone is really expecting it, counting on it etc. so if you don't no one will even notice.

ya and i can usually get at least 1 kill and turn the game in my favor because these nigs don't last hit. Its funny how i can come out with most ck, most kills from ganking, and highest level out of everone
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 01:20:47
January 18 2012 01:20 GMT
#32284
On January 18 2012 10:16 FinestHour wrote:
I agree with the IP ban one, miss the old banlist in wc3 dota where you could actually get games with all players that spoke your language...but if youre losing to scout nh your team is just too jew to buy dust, truth



Haha no my problem is when i have nh or scout in my team. Or even worse when i have BOTH of them. You know when they are both staying invis during 3v5 team fights to get the last hit lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
January 18 2012 01:26 GMT
#32285
On January 18 2012 10:20 Boblion wrote:
Haha no my problem is when i have nh or scout in my team. Or even worse when i have BOTH of them. You know when they are both staying invis during 3v5 team fights to get the last hit lol.

Me and my bro pick scout+nh and both go codex.

We'd win too if we didn't always get one person who disconnects from our team at the start of the game like a pussy.
The original Bogus fan.
Abubakr
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada8 Posts
January 18 2012 03:54 GMT
#32286
On January 18 2012 09:00 Boblion wrote:
- cc 10 minutes. Some games are lost from the start, there is no point to play.


I don't really agree with that. I hate it when people give up so early. If you just keep your heads high and keep playing you can still win. This is assuming your team comp is fine and can actually turn things around late game.

However, some games are lost fast like if your barracks are gone way too early. Still, 10 minutes is way too early to give up.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 18 2012 04:16 GMT
#32287
On January 18 2012 10:26 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 10:20 Boblion wrote:
Haha no my problem is when i have nh or scout in my team. Or even worse when i have BOTH of them. You know when they are both staying invis during 3v5 team fights to get the last hit lol.

Me and my bro pick scout+nh and both go codex.

We'd win too if we didn't always get one person who disconnects from our team at the start of the game like a pussy.


Im one of them 8)
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
January 18 2012 04:22 GMT
#32288
On January 18 2012 12:54 Abubakr wrote:
I don't really agree with that. I hate it when people give up so early. If you just keep your heads high and keep playing you can still win. This is assuming your team comp is fine and can actually turn things around late game.

However, some games are lost fast like if your barracks are gone way too early. Still, 10 minutes is way too early to give up.


While I respect your opinion, for me it's not about if the game is still technically winnable, it's about whether the team wants to give in and start a new game on fresh terms. If the CC vote requires 5/5 votes I can't see any reason why you should have to wait till 15mins to CC.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
January 18 2012 04:33 GMT
#32289
On January 18 2012 13:22 AndyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 12:54 Abubakr wrote:
I don't really agree with that. I hate it when people give up so early. If you just keep your heads high and keep playing you can still win. This is assuming your team comp is fine and can actually turn things around late game.

However, some games are lost fast like if your barracks are gone way too early. Still, 10 minutes is way too early to give up.


While I respect your opinion, for me it's not about if the game is still technically winnable, it's about whether the team wants to give in and start a new game on fresh terms. If the CC vote requires 5/5 votes I can't see any reason why you should have to wait till 15mins to CC.

Too easy to abuse. I could just play with you and then concede. I could do this 100 times in a row, and then the whole "leaver" system wouldn't work.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
January 18 2012 07:43 GMT
#32290
( too bad i had to solo queue all the time lol ).


you must be the most calm person on TL. I don't think I could play 800 games in solo queue before getting pissed off at stupid people. Always try and queue with 1 or 2 other people, that way you can dominate a lane with two people (monarch+anything) and also have someone you trust mid.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17421 Posts
January 18 2012 08:52 GMT
#32291
Guys, hear me out, guys, guys! I've got the best idea of fixing Hellbourne Kongor advantage:

Use the top left and bottom right corners of the map to put 2 Kongors there (remove one from the middle obviously). If one is killed the other one automatically disappears.

This solves everything and adds some interesting stuff:
1. You need to watch 2 pits.
2. Kongor races (as only one team can get benefit for killing it).

Wouldn't that be awesome?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 18 2012 19:12 GMT
#32292
On January 18 2012 17:52 Manit0u wrote:
Guys, hear me out, guys, guys! I've got the best idea of fixing Hellbourne Kongor advantage:

Use the top left and bottom right corners of the map to put 2 Kongors there (remove one from the middle obviously). If one is killed the other one automatically disappears.

This solves everything and adds some interesting stuff:
1. You need to watch 2 pits.
2. Kongor races (as only one team can get benefit for killing it).

Wouldn't that be awesome?

Put kongnor on roam he will roam between the top and bottom jungle only attacking once attacked or just have him attack everything but lane creeps be hilarious.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17421 Posts
January 18 2012 19:14 GMT
#32293
Tower push with Kongor?
*mind boggle*
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 18 2012 21:32 GMT
#32294
everytime i kill kongor, i always troll and kill the token
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
January 18 2012 21:46 GMT
#32295
You guys need to stop playing HoN and play a real man's MOBA game i.e. dota. The mechanics of DOTA completely shit on HoN and LoL. I have played all the MOBAS and in my opinion DOTA is just on another level.

User was warned for this post
Time is money my friend.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
January 18 2012 21:51 GMT
#32296
On January 19 2012 04:12 semantics wrote:
Put kongnor on roam he will roam between the top and bottom jungle only attacking once attacked or just have him attack everything but lane creeps be hilarious.


This is absolute genius. Has anyone heard anything regarding Dota 2 and custom map support?
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
January 18 2012 21:52 GMT
#32297
On January 19 2012 06:46 tests wrote:
You guys need to stop playing HoN and play a real man's MOBA game i.e. dota. The mechanics of DOTA completely shit on HoN and LoL. I have played all the MOBAS and in my opinion DOTA is just on another level.

I stopped reading when he used the term MOBA he obviously knows nothing about this genre's roots even though he flashes dota out there
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 18 2012 21:55 GMT
#32298
Lol dota mechanics, i love the random shit fanboys put up there, like slower is better! etc and hon is instant cast(even though any one with skill can cancel skills all day with stuns or animation canceling to fake spells, or their attack speed herp) Or random shit like dota is balanced when it's only about as balanced as hon, there are clear instances of some heores are just better then others when you make a team, in both games.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
January 18 2012 23:43 GMT
#32299
Guys, hear me out, guys, guys! I've got the best idea of fixing Hellbourne Kongor advantage:

Use the top left and bottom right corners of the map to put 2 Kongors there (remove one from the middle obviously). If one is killed the other one automatically disappears.

This solves everything and adds some interesting stuff:
1. You need to watch 2 pits.
2. Kongor races (as only one team can get benefit for killing it).

Wouldn't that be awesome?


I've heard a similar suggestion in a dota fourm of having two Kongor pits but only one will be populated at one time. At 0.00 kongor will randomly spawn in either the top pit or the bottom pit. If that Kongor is killed then the he will ressurect at the normal time but the opposite pit. The effect is that you will have maybe a "hellbourne" kongor to start with then a "legion kongor for the second one and back and forth. It's still not particularly balanced as there is an advantage in having first kongor on your side but it evens out the discrepancy over a longer game with 2-3 kills.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 19 2012 02:00 GMT
#32300
smeagolol thats an awful lot of gemini games son

gotta have some more self respect then that kid
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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