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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
November 01 2011 17:24 GMT
#31821
On November 01 2011 22:06 Boblion wrote:
Nymph + ra should beat easily pr + chronos in lane right ?

Why nymph/ra? I would think that having a support hero with more stuns would be more viable. Nymph's heal and mana regen mean basically nothing to ra, and nymph's stun isn't THAT amazing. You want annoying? Go nymph plus a nuker like pyro/hammer/tb and have a glacius level up his aura on the other lane. Then just level up your mana-giving ability, and have your nuker just spam the everloving crap out their heroes all game.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 17:52:41
November 01 2011 17:51 GMT
#31822
Was asking because i had some trouble trying to babysit chronos, we eventually won but that's was mostly because of our mid fayde and our top. You need to be extra careful with all those stuns and if you have a poor ping it can be annoying :o

Also just won a game vs a 28-1 smurf ( 1750 ) who rage quitted, aahhhhhhhhhhh feels good.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 18:13:34
November 01 2011 18:12 GMT
#31823
On November 02 2011 02:51 Boblion wrote:
Was asking because i had some trouble trying to babysit chronos, we eventually won but that's was mostly because of our mid fayde and our top. You need to be extra careful with all those stuns and if you have a poor ping it can be annoying :o

Also just won a game vs a 28-1 smurf ( 1750 ) who rage quitted, aahhhhhhhhhhh feels good.

Ah. Well I'm not exactly pro, but I would think a hero with more heals than stuns would be a better babysitter for Chronos, someone like DS, or even nymph. Chronos can always blink out to escape, so I would think that letting him have a more sustainable lane presence would be better than lane control and great harass. But PR is basically always good in good hands, so I'm sure someone better could probably tell you how to optimally support a chronos in a lane. I know i myself have probably single-handedly lowered PR's vaunted win percentage.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 01 2011 19:09 GMT
#31824
PR Chronos normally wins that but it really comes down to player skill. At lower levels RA just sorta rapes. Nymphora on the other hand has a subpar heal, good but somewhat hard to aim nuke and an amazing mana regen skill. I just don't get why someone would lane nymph with ra outside of sd.

PR can outharass nymph, and can always draw the laneback so chronos can farm. It's a really, really strong lane due to that. (Also PR moves super fast before boots, enough so to easily dodge ra's stun and nymph's to an extent). PR animation blows nymphs out of the water, as does his range and speed. The nymph should rarely be able to even harass the chronos while the PR can always harass the nymph or RA. Plus, PR + Chronos can be deadly at even level 2 with good timing on the bash count.

All in all it should usually result in both melees farming, but with chronos getting better farm overall due to free denies, better lane partner. Later in the game Ra and nymph go well together (tp level 6 go gank towerdive somewhere, stronger heals overall).
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 19:15:27
November 01 2011 19:11 GMT
#31825
PR is one of the best babysitters in the game. Auto-deny before creeps even get in exp range? Check. Unlimited mana supply? Check. AoE nuke + slow? Check. Range? Check. Armour buff + slow? Check.
Nymph + Ra combo is pretty bad in my opinion. Like others stated, Ra could use more stuns/harassment instead of mana + heal (2 out of 3 Nymph skills are useless for him) and someone leeching exp, I think WS would fit in nicely, or Myrm to use magicarp so people can't run away from meteor. Nymph + Armadon, now that's another story
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
November 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#31826
What are everyone's opinion on flux? He seems like a strong hero to me... Surprised I don't see him more often. Sure you need a few key items for him to remain useful past lvl 11, but it's not THAT hard to farm with a ranged melee.

I can't seem to win more than 50% with him though. Is it something with my build? I usually start with two gloves of strength, 1 mana pot, 1 hp pot, 1 set of tangos -> work towards steamboots, picking up mana battery/bracers as needed -> then either rushing a portkey and/or icebrand.

For skills, i go 1-1-1, then 4-1-1, then 4-4-4, getting his ult whenever available of course.

Halp me flux better plz!
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 01 2011 19:27 GMT
#31827
On November 02 2011 04:23 ZaplinG wrote:
What are everyone's opinion on flux? He seems like a strong hero to me... Surprised I don't see him more often. Sure you need a few key items for him to remain useful past lvl 11, but it's not THAT hard to farm with a ranged melee.

I can't seem to win more than 50% with him though. Is it something with my build? I usually start with two gloves of strength, 1 mana pot, 1 hp pot, 1 set of tangos -> work towards steamboots, picking up mana battery/bracers as needed -> then either rushing a portkey and/or icebrand.

For skills, i go 1-1-1, then 4-1-1, then 4-4-4, getting his ult whenever available of course.

Halp me flux better plz!


pretty useless hero by himself, the only reason you pick him is synergy with other heroes during a teamfight. kracken, tempest, plague rider (heroes with good aoe)
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
November 01 2011 20:39 GMT
#31828
On November 02 2011 04:23 ZaplinG wrote:
What are everyone's opinion on flux? He seems like a strong hero to me... Surprised I don't see him more often. Sure you need a few key items for him to remain useful past lvl 11, but it's not THAT hard to farm with a ranged melee.

I can't seem to win more than 50% with him though. Is it something with my build? I usually start with two gloves of strength, 1 mana pot, 1 hp pot, 1 set of tangos -> work towards steamboots, picking up mana battery/bracers as needed -> then either rushing a portkey and/or icebrand.

For skills, i go 1-1-1, then 4-1-1, then 4-4-4, getting his ult whenever available of course.

Halp me flux better plz!


How easy is it exactly to farm with a ranged melee
Riding a bike is overrated.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
November 01 2011 20:42 GMT
#31829
On November 02 2011 05:39 Pacifist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 04:23 ZaplinG wrote:
What are everyone's opinion on flux? He seems like a strong hero to me... Surprised I don't see him more often. Sure you need a few key items for him to remain useful past lvl 11, but it's not THAT hard to farm with a ranged melee.

I can't seem to win more than 50% with him though. Is it something with my build? I usually start with two gloves of strength, 1 mana pot, 1 hp pot, 1 set of tangos -> work towards steamboots, picking up mana battery/bracers as needed -> then either rushing a portkey and/or icebrand.

For skills, i go 1-1-1, then 4-1-1, then 4-4-4, getting his ult whenever available of course.

Halp me flux better plz!


How easy is it exactly to farm with a ranged melee

I think he means strenght ranged.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Horo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States351 Posts
November 01 2011 21:07 GMT
#31830
He's a ranged hero with shittacular range.

Minus well be melee.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 01 2011 21:53 GMT
#31831
flux is a great hero, i love playing him when i got some r*tarded team who decided to go full fragile carry team. if you can keep his level up with the the enemies, you CANNOT die unless you get ganked 4v1 or 5v1. he is just soooo tanky! but other than his tankiness....he is absolutely rubbish....he is 'just another S2 hero that designed for messing around', Flux's role is confusing as fck.

my build if you wanna have a look:
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroesguide_view.php?gid=59152
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
November 02 2011 08:27 GMT
#31832
On November 02 2011 06:07 Wyrm_uW wrote:
He's a ranged hero with shittacular range.

Minus well be melee.


Good pun! :D That's what his third skills's for though. I find him to be okay, great synergy in an AoE team, especially if you get a pkey.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
November 02 2011 13:30 GMT
#31833
Can you ban all the Brazilians in this game ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 02 2011 14:22 GMT
#31834
I had hypothesis about that, in theory, S2 allows the connections to timeout during the loading phase, so you could conceivably code up a "Brazilian filter" that pings all the other players once a game gets established, check their IPs against Brazil, and then time yourself out if a Brazilian is found on your team. But it's too much effort/
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
November 02 2011 20:45 GMT
#31835
On November 02 2011 23:22 Kupon3ss wrote:
I had hypothesis about that, in theory, S2 allows the connections to timeout during the loading phase, so you could conceivably code up a "Brazilian filter" that pings all the other players once a game gets established, check their IPs against Brazil, and then time yourself out if a Brazilian is found on your team. But it's too much effort/


The real question is, is it really ?
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#31836
I remember a tournament towards the end of closed beta where someone's account was "fuckbr"
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 22:05:47
November 02 2011 22:04 GMT
#31837
On November 03 2011 05:45 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 23:22 Kupon3ss wrote:
I had hypothesis about that, in theory, S2 allows the connections to timeout during the loading phase, so you could conceivably code up a "Brazilian filter" that pings all the other players once a game gets established, check their IPs against Brazil, and then time yourself out if a Brazilian is found on your team. But it's too much effort/


The real question is, is it really ?

Probably Hon runs off a server as far as p2p connections to people i do not know if hon has that, although i guess i could just load up a packet sniffer and check. Without that basis of a direct connection it would be very hard to make.

Also my build for flux is 6 streamboots.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
November 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#31838
Looking at flux's skills, that hero makes no sense to me at all. How the fuck is that ult useful? I guess if you pull heroes towards you it can be used to initiate group fights??
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
November 02 2011 23:41 GMT
#31839
On November 03 2011 08:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
Looking at flux's skills, that hero makes no sense to me at all. How the fuck is that ult useful? I guess if you pull heroes towards you it can be used to initiate group fights??


BIGPLAYS SON BIG PLAYS
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2398 Posts
November 03 2011 00:38 GMT
#31840
On November 02 2011 22:30 Boblion wrote:
Can you ban all the Brazilians in this game ?

So many Americans are worse. At least Brazilians are fun! Leveling up chain lightning over lightning blast as TB, hilarious!

The bad Americans are just like "wah wah I picked flint and couldn't farm my team sux look I'm 4-1 becaused I used my ult on a couple of kills there oh well AFK in fountain for stats".
The original Bogus fan.
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