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Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 07:05:54
August 17 2011 07:05 GMT
#30021
SK completely dropping their HoN team. Kolapz left SK as well. I'm not sure what his position was. It seemed like he was a representative of SK specifically for HoN?

anyways- http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=320461
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 17 2011 07:28 GMT
#30022
Ryu I strongly think you should explicitly state that moba is a term made up by hunter, who is a known scammer, bm'er, and all around bad reputation for organizing tournaments/projects then abadoning them. He created a website [ forgot the name maybe it still exists ] and had sections for LoL, dota, and hon. There were articles and shit but the term originates from him.

For people outside our community they just think its a harmless genre word but it was proliferated by a guy who is scummy as shit and very possibly a pedophile. He didn't pay out money to players and set up dxd scams. He has a username at TL and he tried making some projects that are, surprise surprise, completely abandoned. This dude appears and disappears like herpes. He is bad news and if people use the term moba they are saying that its ok for some guy like this to put a label on a pretty popular and competitive type of game with high e sport potential [ is it even potential anymore? ]

This would be akin to someone making a shitty rts that steals from starcraft and then when a bunch of other people copy him he decides to name the genre ' asdf '.

The difference is there wasn't a unified genre term because it wasn't necessary. However it is exactly because of this that we shouldn't use moba and use something more like TRPS or just ' dota '.

rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 08:22 GMT
#30023
its starting.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 17 2011 08:25 GMT
#30024
http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/?q=hd&c=English for people without link.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2011 08:54 GMT
#30025
On August 17 2011 17:22 rabidch wrote:
its starting.

to lag $2 :D
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 09:00 GMT
#30026
valve

LAN plx

and fix that bad pausing animations
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 17 2011 09:00 GMT
#30027
Bnet 2.0: Valve edition.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
August 17 2011 09:05 GMT
#30028
Most disappointing stream I have ever watched.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
August 17 2011 09:05 GMT
#30029
So far I find this to be extremely underwhelming

It's just DOTA with new graphics, that's not particularly exciting at all, and I don't even like a lot of the artwork.

I like the models/portraits and the way the map looks when things are still, but I don't like the fight animations or the spell animations. They seem very clunky to me. The interface at bottom with items/skills seems enormous and Valve has some preoccupation with squares and right angles because everything is a square or rectangle.

To be perfectly honest I think HON looks better in every single aspect save the actual map itself and the hero models/portraits.

Also it's kind of embarrassing that the stream has gone down twice and the teams are complaining about lag in the first ever public exposure of DOTA 2. I'm going to sleep now, this has been a very underwhelming and rather disappointing experience and it's not really worth staying up to see normal DOTA games play out with better graphics (not that there was any reason to expect anything otherwise).
myIRE
Profile Joined November 2008
Belgium229 Posts
August 17 2011 09:08 GMT
#30030
From what I've seen the game has this weird almost "too clean" interface, which I just find lazy considering they had wc3 interface to steal from. And they just made it black, boring but ok. The 2nd thing I have noticed is the item icons look way too big and just uncool, even though icons are minor details they are important. 3rd thing is the graphics, they are made to look like a mash-up of LoL and Borderlands, looks alright I'd say but that's not really my problem here. The problem I have is the visual cue you get from spells and abilities used, it's a whole load of mess I can't tell what's happening even though I've played both dota and hon and I know what the spells do, the animations just look overly dramatic, kinda like what you would expect in an action rpg with badass explosions all over your screen but this is not an arpg this is dota, things are supposed to be on the simpler side.

All that being said, I haven't played it yet so I can't judge the gameplay and the overall feel of the game so I can't really dismiss dota2 just yet but the aesthetics are not appealing to me atm.
Freedom is the most contageous virus known to men.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 09:10 GMT
#30031
and... its back.. except the russian stream is somehow the german one now


they better fix this connection shit before day 2. dont really care about interface it can be refined, but the spells are just as confusing as HoN at times
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
August 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#30032
Interesting stream....
Honestly, I wasn't very pumped for DotA 2, in hopes that I would not have great expectations for it and then be surprised by the final product... but so far, even with low expectations, DotA2 failed to deliver. I'd have to admit, when they were picking it looked amazing. Clean presentation, amazing portraits, interesting designs yet faithful to their essence from DotA1. However, as soon as the game started and I got to see laning/creeps/ganks, it just.... looked like LoL or maybe worse. At least LoL goes for the cartoon art style, DotA2 seems to go for a "realistic" LoL style but way worse graphics than HoN. Observer stats and such are obviously not as comfortable as HoN, but even HoN didn't get it right the first time, so those things aren't worth discussing. However, one thing I do think is a definite strength for HoN (except for their servers' downtime) is connectivity. When I lived in the US, I never lagged considerably. It was always playable. I played some in Korea, and while it may have been a problem with my ISP, half of my games were playable with minimum lag (other half were bad/unplayable... but still, Korea -> USE).
DotA2 failed in probably the biggest and most important aspect of an online game, or any game for that matter.... playability
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#30033
Anyone else see at above where the iteams are
"drag items here to use quick buy"
wtf is that
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 09:31:45
August 17 2011 09:30 GMT
#30034
i dont understand why people think it looks like LoL, it goes for its own style

just cause everybodys not a mutant with giant fryingpans like in HoN doesnt mean its LoL

im actually annoyed that a lot of the spell effects look like too much like HoN, spectre and clockwerk make the teamfights hard to watch, the only spell animations that look right to me are AA's
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2011 09:32 GMT
#30035
I think dota 2 the heroes and creeps look like they are made form clay and i dont care for it, love the water and trees though.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 09:34 GMT
#30036
On August 17 2011 18:32 semantics wrote:
I think dota 2 the heroes and creeps look like they are made form clay and i dont care for it, love the water and trees though.

yea looks a lot like tf2, too much so
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
August 17 2011 09:49 GMT
#30037
are you serious ehome. you got a farmed sw go freaken kill them
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
August 17 2011 09:50 GMT
#30038
tiny moves like a gorilla naix : (
hoorah
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 09:51:48
August 17 2011 09:50 GMT
#30039
On August 17 2011 18:49 Looky wrote:
are you serious ehome. you got a farmed sw go freaken kill them

their lineup limits them. iGs lineup has a really strong opportunistic lineup and if EHOME goes in wrong = gg


basically weaver + clock + aa + pugna is really hard to break
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
August 17 2011 09:55 GMT
#30040
lag woot
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