• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:32
CEST 03:32
KST 10:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)14ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo23Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) SC2 Planner - The StarCraft II Build Planner [TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th HomeStory Cup In Early July
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6357 users

[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1502

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1500 1501 1502 1503 1504 1664 Next
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 07:05:54
August 17 2011 07:05 GMT
#30021
SK completely dropping their HoN team. Kolapz left SK as well. I'm not sure what his position was. It seemed like he was a representative of SK specifically for HoN?

anyways- http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=320461
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 17 2011 07:28 GMT
#30022
Ryu I strongly think you should explicitly state that moba is a term made up by hunter, who is a known scammer, bm'er, and all around bad reputation for organizing tournaments/projects then abadoning them. He created a website [ forgot the name maybe it still exists ] and had sections for LoL, dota, and hon. There were articles and shit but the term originates from him.

For people outside our community they just think its a harmless genre word but it was proliferated by a guy who is scummy as shit and very possibly a pedophile. He didn't pay out money to players and set up dxd scams. He has a username at TL and he tried making some projects that are, surprise surprise, completely abandoned. This dude appears and disappears like herpes. He is bad news and if people use the term moba they are saying that its ok for some guy like this to put a label on a pretty popular and competitive type of game with high e sport potential [ is it even potential anymore? ]

This would be akin to someone making a shitty rts that steals from starcraft and then when a bunch of other people copy him he decides to name the genre ' asdf '.

The difference is there wasn't a unified genre term because it wasn't necessary. However it is exactly because of this that we shouldn't use moba and use something more like TRPS or just ' dota '.

rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 08:22 GMT
#30023
its starting.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 17 2011 08:25 GMT
#30024
http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/?q=hd&c=English for people without link.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2011 08:54 GMT
#30025
On August 17 2011 17:22 rabidch wrote:
its starting.

to lag $2 :D
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 09:00 GMT
#30026
valve

LAN plx

and fix that bad pausing animations
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 17 2011 09:00 GMT
#30027
Bnet 2.0: Valve edition.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
August 17 2011 09:05 GMT
#30028
Most disappointing stream I have ever watched.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
August 17 2011 09:05 GMT
#30029
So far I find this to be extremely underwhelming

It's just DOTA with new graphics, that's not particularly exciting at all, and I don't even like a lot of the artwork.

I like the models/portraits and the way the map looks when things are still, but I don't like the fight animations or the spell animations. They seem very clunky to me. The interface at bottom with items/skills seems enormous and Valve has some preoccupation with squares and right angles because everything is a square or rectangle.

To be perfectly honest I think HON looks better in every single aspect save the actual map itself and the hero models/portraits.

Also it's kind of embarrassing that the stream has gone down twice and the teams are complaining about lag in the first ever public exposure of DOTA 2. I'm going to sleep now, this has been a very underwhelming and rather disappointing experience and it's not really worth staying up to see normal DOTA games play out with better graphics (not that there was any reason to expect anything otherwise).
myIRE
Profile Joined November 2008
Belgium229 Posts
August 17 2011 09:08 GMT
#30030
From what I've seen the game has this weird almost "too clean" interface, which I just find lazy considering they had wc3 interface to steal from. And they just made it black, boring but ok. The 2nd thing I have noticed is the item icons look way too big and just uncool, even though icons are minor details they are important. 3rd thing is the graphics, they are made to look like a mash-up of LoL and Borderlands, looks alright I'd say but that's not really my problem here. The problem I have is the visual cue you get from spells and abilities used, it's a whole load of mess I can't tell what's happening even though I've played both dota and hon and I know what the spells do, the animations just look overly dramatic, kinda like what you would expect in an action rpg with badass explosions all over your screen but this is not an arpg this is dota, things are supposed to be on the simpler side.

All that being said, I haven't played it yet so I can't judge the gameplay and the overall feel of the game so I can't really dismiss dota2 just yet but the aesthetics are not appealing to me atm.
Freedom is the most contageous virus known to men.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 09:10 GMT
#30031
and... its back.. except the russian stream is somehow the german one now


they better fix this connection shit before day 2. dont really care about interface it can be refined, but the spells are just as confusing as HoN at times
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
August 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#30032
Interesting stream....
Honestly, I wasn't very pumped for DotA 2, in hopes that I would not have great expectations for it and then be surprised by the final product... but so far, even with low expectations, DotA2 failed to deliver. I'd have to admit, when they were picking it looked amazing. Clean presentation, amazing portraits, interesting designs yet faithful to their essence from DotA1. However, as soon as the game started and I got to see laning/creeps/ganks, it just.... looked like LoL or maybe worse. At least LoL goes for the cartoon art style, DotA2 seems to go for a "realistic" LoL style but way worse graphics than HoN. Observer stats and such are obviously not as comfortable as HoN, but even HoN didn't get it right the first time, so those things aren't worth discussing. However, one thing I do think is a definite strength for HoN (except for their servers' downtime) is connectivity. When I lived in the US, I never lagged considerably. It was always playable. I played some in Korea, and while it may have been a problem with my ISP, half of my games were playable with minimum lag (other half were bad/unplayable... but still, Korea -> USE).
DotA2 failed in probably the biggest and most important aspect of an online game, or any game for that matter.... playability
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#30033
Anyone else see at above where the iteams are
"drag items here to use quick buy"
wtf is that
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 09:31:45
August 17 2011 09:30 GMT
#30034
i dont understand why people think it looks like LoL, it goes for its own style

just cause everybodys not a mutant with giant fryingpans like in HoN doesnt mean its LoL

im actually annoyed that a lot of the spell effects look like too much like HoN, spectre and clockwerk make the teamfights hard to watch, the only spell animations that look right to me are AA's
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2011 09:32 GMT
#30035
I think dota 2 the heroes and creeps look like they are made form clay and i dont care for it, love the water and trees though.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2011 09:34 GMT
#30036
On August 17 2011 18:32 semantics wrote:
I think dota 2 the heroes and creeps look like they are made form clay and i dont care for it, love the water and trees though.

yea looks a lot like tf2, too much so
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
August 17 2011 09:49 GMT
#30037
are you serious ehome. you got a farmed sw go freaken kill them
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
August 17 2011 09:50 GMT
#30038
tiny moves like a gorilla naix : (
hoorah
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 09:51:48
August 17 2011 09:50 GMT
#30039
On August 17 2011 18:49 Looky wrote:
are you serious ehome. you got a farmed sw go freaken kill them

their lineup limits them. iGs lineup has a really strong opportunistic lineup and if EHOME goes in wrong = gg


basically weaver + clock + aa + pugna is really hard to break
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
August 17 2011 09:55 GMT
#30040
lag woot
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Prev 1 1500 1501 1502 1503 1504 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft908
WinterStarcraft395
ProTech154
RuFF_SC2 118
NeuroSwarm 117
Nina 99
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3213
Rain 3139
Shuttle 645
Artosis 538
Leta 38
Dota 2
capcasts333
League of Legends
JimRising 504
Counter-Strike
summit1g10521
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox0
Other Games
shahzam577
C9.Mang0542
Maynarde131
Trikslyr65
Livibee51
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick915
BasetradeTV206
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 120
• HeavenSC 24
• davetesta21
• Mapu3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra525
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 29m
The PondCast
1d 8h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.