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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 14 2008 03:27 GMT
#2521
OH NO YOU DIDN'T
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 14 2008 03:35 GMT
#2522
On May 14 2008 12:05 Judicator wrote:
ganking axe without blink dagger...rofl


here is a prime example of an uncreative/unintelligent noob
Hates Fun🤔
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 03:48:28
May 14 2008 03:48 GMT
#2523
Replay?
Edit: Still waiting for BigBlind

GG50
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 14 2008 04:03 GMT
#2524
k to put it simply. if you don't have a blink dagger on axe, the only way you're going to get your berserk call is if you have a partner stun him for you or if the person you're trying to kill has slow reflexes (in other words, sucks). the range for berserk call is pretty damn small, so trying to walk up to someone and use it will usually yield fail results.

not saying you absolutely need a blink, but it's nice to have one imo because not only is he good for ganking with it, he's a great initiate in team battles =D

and er. did somebody say lothars?..... =(
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 14 2008 04:06 GMT
#2525
you guys are just stating the obvious

just force the enemy into running into axe's path
or pop out of the corner of trees and call

not hard! you can pull this off in every lane
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 14 2008 04:07 GMT
#2526
for sniper in china I just liked him because I could go hide in the trees and shoot random enemy heroes and it was funny -_-



lololololololololol :z cute hahaha
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 14 2008 04:09 GMT
#2527
yeah we know, it obviously is possible to gank with axe withotu a blink, but without one, you're not going to pull off a good gank everytime because in some situations you would need it.

what if you were trying to gank 2-3 heroes? that were relatively close together, with lets say 1-2 of your team. it could be the situation where you would not be able to beat them by straight up running towards them to gank, but if you had the blink to initiate first and call all 3 heroes and hopefully some creeps, the situation would be much different. and you wouldn't be able to do that without a blink dagger.

since berserk call is dependent on position, blink is the best for getting in a good position right away
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 14 2008 04:37 GMT
#2528
well yeah but the argument initially stemmed from shinbi dismissing axe ever being able to gank a soloer without a blink

utterly retarded
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 14 2008 06:06 GMT
#2529
Btw you read the lothar thing wrong. He was saying berserk pulls people outta lothar.
Therefore berserk > lothar.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 14 2008 06:31 GMT
#2530
ohh ic lol, i didnt read it thoroughly but i thought they were advocating the use of lothars on axe haha
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 14 2008 07:04 GMT
#2531
lothars on axe

ESCAPE MECHANISM
ARMOR
ATTACK SPEED

WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED MORE?
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 14 2008 07:14 GMT
#2532
On May 14 2008 16:04 paper wrote:
lothars on axe

ESCAPE MECHANISM
ARMOR
ATTACK SPEED

WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED MORE?

Invisible call! DUN DUN DUN
OR
Invisible ULTIMATE! OH SHIT
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 14 2008 07:21 GMT
#2533
On May 14 2008 13:03 BlueRoyaL wrote:
k to put it simply. if you don't have a blink dagger on axe, the only way you're going to get your berserk call is if you have a partner stun him for you or if the person you're trying to kill has slow reflexes (in other words, sucks). the range for berserk call is pretty damn small, so trying to walk up to someone and use it will usually yield fail results.

not saying you absolutely need a blink, but it's nice to have one imo because not only is he good for ganking with it, he's a great initiate in team battles =D

and er. did somebody say lothars?..... =(


Nah... have you played SC ums such as dodge the light where basically one player is trying to tag the other players? Even WITH vision shared you can tag the other players with same speed. You just need to get the right angle.
In a game you bush other people, it's not really that bad at all.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 14 2008 07:21 GMT
#2534
I find 1 point in battlehunger is really awesome when chasing low hp heros with bottle.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 14 2008 07:24 GMT
#2535
Damn looks like I'm going to have to get back on and show you boys what real ganking is. Dagger/Eul/dagon5 suicide techies go!
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 14 2008 12:46 GMT
#2536
a reply on this simply for the humor value..

On May 14 2008 13:37 paper wrote:
well yeah but the argument initially stemmed from shinbi dismissing axe ever being able to gank a soloer without a blink

utterly retarded


really. that's news to me.
but why am i arguing with someone who's the intelligent creative pro that is at the bleeding edge of dota metagame with such advances as no stat items and no blinks on axe
-_-z
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 14 2008 13:08 GMT
#2537
actually the humor isn't even worth it anymore
let's just say i support your way of playing dota ryugie. stat items are useless, so is blink on axe, and a farming qop is better than a ganking one. if you really gank when you hit 7 and you didn't gank til 15-16th minute then that's absolutely fine by me

i agree with you ryugie. you're #1.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
May 14 2008 15:49 GMT
#2538
On May 14 2008 16:21 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 13:03 BlueRoyaL wrote:
k to put it simply. if you don't have a blink dagger on axe, the only way you're going to get your berserk call is if you have a partner stun him for you or if the person you're trying to kill has slow reflexes (in other words, sucks). the range for berserk call is pretty damn small, so trying to walk up to someone and use it will usually yield fail results.

not saying you absolutely need a blink, but it's nice to have one imo because not only is he good for ganking with it, he's a great initiate in team battles =D

and er. did somebody say lothars?..... =(


Nah... have you played SC ums such as dodge the light where basically one player is trying to tag the other players? Even WITH vision shared you can tag the other players with same speed. You just need to get the right angle.
In a game you bush other people, it's not really that bad at all.


no.. i haven't played what you're talking about but it's different im pretty sure. if you're chasing someone thats farther than your berserk call range and you're both traveling the same speed, you're not going to catch him.

just simply put, blink dagger is one of the most useful items on axe. no argument there. x_X;;
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 14 2008 16:06 GMT
#2539
On May 15 2008 00:49 BlueRoyaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 16:21 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On May 14 2008 13:03 BlueRoyaL wrote:
k to put it simply. if you don't have a blink dagger on axe, the only way you're going to get your berserk call is if you have a partner stun him for you or if the person you're trying to kill has slow reflexes (in other words, sucks). the range for berserk call is pretty damn small, so trying to walk up to someone and use it will usually yield fail results.

not saying you absolutely need a blink, but it's nice to have one imo because not only is he good for ganking with it, he's a great initiate in team battles =D

and er. did somebody say lothars?..... =(


Nah... have you played SC ums such as dodge the light where basically one player is trying to tag the other players? Even WITH vision shared you can tag the other players with same speed. You just need to get the right angle.
In a game you bush other people, it's not really that bad at all.


no.. i haven't played what you're talking about but it's different im pretty sure. if you're chasing someone thats farther than your berserk call range and you're both traveling the same speed, you're not going to catch him.

just simply put, blink dagger is one of the most useful items on axe. no argument there. x_X;;


Yeah blink dagger is useful on axe, but evan is right. I think of it as a skill like knowing to read the minimap. You can easily get in berserker range given the right angles. Not to mention you only really notice difference in movespeed at around the 10ms or higher mark.

If the current blink dagger style stays where you can't tele 3 seconds after getting hit, I'm sure you will see more of this type of play.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
May 14 2008 16:37 GMT
#2540
On May 14 2008 16:21 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I find 1 point in battlehunger is really awesome when chasing low hp heros with bottle.


Don't forget blinkers, Hunger will stop the blink. Battlehunger was a terrible skill, but now it is viable to get a single point in for the blinkers. My opinion.
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