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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
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rabidch
United States20287 Posts
On October 24 2010 21:39 Alventenie wrote: Alch's ult has always been super powerful. One time i used his ult at level 7 against a 1v2 gank with 200 hp left. I used it vs Luna's ult + Nightstalker ganking me and i didn't lose any hp. The regen is so imba x.x regen isnt that imba, its the movespeed gain which makes him absolutely retarded, movespeed = less time getting hit, harder aoe, he runs around at a stupid +constant rate and it augments his stun ability when alch was first put in he wasnt that great because 1. his stun was different 2. he didnt get movespeed from his ult, once movespeed came in his ult actually became good, i remember playing him the version after that tweak and thinking how ridiculously good alch was (even with the old stun), i used to like playing with new heroes that were implemented underpowered back then and alch was one of the hardest to play with along with huskar | ||
Judicator
United States7270 Posts
He wasn't implemented underpowered, he was implemented broken (no limit on Greed wut?) then stereotypically overnerfed. I remember when he first came out, the first IH I played with him involved Skadi/Heart/Radiance/Buriza in like 40-50 mins. The player said he had enough to pick up whatever else he wanted. | ||
pSikh0
163 Posts
On October 24 2010 21:51 rabidch wrote: regen isnt that imba, its the movespeed gain which makes him absolutely retarded, movespeed = less time getting hit, harder aoe, he runs around at a stupid +constant rate and it augments his stun ability when alch was first put in he wasnt that great because 1. his stun was different 2. he didnt get movespeed from his ult, once movespeed came in his ult actually became good, i remember playing him the version after that tweak and thinking how ridiculously good alch was (even with the old stun), i used to like playing with new heroes that were implemented underpowered back then and alch was one of the hardest to play with along with huskar The regen from his ult also adds to mana regen dude, you know what that means right? His the movespeed is good but then i'm pretty sure the +HP from his ult + all the regen is what makes it good (Lets not forget about how he gets a shorter animation when he ults too :o) I don't know what was wrong with his old stun tbh It was a 5 second channel with like humongo cast range and tracked the hero while alch charged the stun, 5 seconds is a lot of time to catch up to whoever you use the stun on (kinda like mirana arrow) | ||
LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On October 25 2010 05:07 LordWeird wrote: Anybody down for some HoN tonight, tomorrow, or tuesday? I'm down for a game or two now if you're still around. | ||
Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 25 2010 04:21 pSikh0 wrote: The regen from his ult also adds to mana regen dude, you know what that means right? His the movespeed is good but then i'm pretty sure the +HP from his ult + all the regen is what makes it good (Lets not forget about how he gets a shorter animation when he ults too :o) I don't know what was wrong with his old stun tbh It was a 5 second channel with like humongo cast range and tracked the hero while alch charged the stun, 5 seconds is a lot of time to catch up to whoever you use the stun on (kinda like mirana arrow) 5 seconds to catch up to whatever you use the stun on is 5 seconds for the other team to show up and reverse rape your face, the difference between mirana's arrow and his old stun? it doesn't take a hero out of the battle or waste of a chase. | ||
rabidch
United States20287 Posts
On October 24 2010 23:58 Judicator wrote: The old Alch wasn't that great once the lanes broke down, like hurhurhurselfstunprz. It's the fact that his ultimate scales stupidly well once you get access to the better armor items is what makes Alch stupidly good. Greed just ensures you can punt your early game farm to easily catch up during mid game. He wasn't implemented underpowered, he was implemented broken (no limit on Greed wut?) then stereotypically overnerfed. I remember when he first came out, the first IH I played with him involved Skadi/Heart/Radiance/Buriza in like 40-50 mins. The player said he had enough to pick up whatever else he wanted. i dont remember greed being unlimited back then, and that farm is still pretty normal for alch these days. edit: i do remember dk with unlimited dragons greed though | ||
[TYG]Transcend
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
as are you. | ||
rabidch
United States20287 Posts
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snorlax
United States755 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 25 2010 16:13 rabidch wrote: wait, who is transcend? some tranny | ||
snorlax
United States755 Posts
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rabidch
United States20287 Posts
On October 25 2010 16:32 snorlax wrote: can anyone post a link to the game? what game? there arent any games going on now | ||
[TYG]Transcend
679 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7579 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On October 25 2010 21:45 Wala.Revolution wrote: I might play in an hour or so but my roommates are still sound asleep. Yeah I wonder what my roommates think when they hear all of this furious typing and clicking and laughing and screaming coming from my room. Let me know (when you're available), bro | ||
Wala.Revolution
7579 Posts
On a side note: One of my roommate goes to sleep around 9-10PM; the other, 2-3AM. Sucks to be the one when I decide to game. | ||
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