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On December 19 2007 07:26 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2007 06:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
eh....wc3 better than starcraft? since when... please keep this discussion out of this thread. Anyone else attempting to do so will feel the wrath of Thor.
can.. hardly.. resist.. (HOWCANSOME1HAVINGPLAYEDSCONHISLEVELRATEWCIIIHIGHER?!)
anyways.
sad to see him quit. in a way. but why exactly? he proved everything there was to prove. back in the day he was often mentioned as number1 by respectable players like Tillerman and others, so it's prolly just a little pain we are feeling to see time pass by and old cornerstones of our e-world fade away.
WALK NEW PATHS - EXPLORE WHAT HAS BEEN HIDDEN TO YOU - FIND A NEW PERSPECTIVE - PLUNGE DEEP INTO THE POOL OF LIFE - SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL - BE RELIEVED - FIND THE DIVERSITY - VALUE TIME - MAKE THIS WORLD YOUR HOME - DO THINGS YOU HAVE NEVER DONE BEFORE - EAT A DONUT
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I think it's sad to see him go not just because he was a legendary player who had been at the very top, but also because he was one of the most extraordinary people within the community. He was one of the most well-mannered and loyal players I've ever seen, and not only that, he was one of the very few Humans who refused to play the game in a "lame" way by massing towers and such. Although, that may have actually cost him some victories, but that is a completely different argument that has no purpose in this thread.
If everyone in the community tried to be like him, it would be a much, much better place. He was a rolemodel and a great player, and he will definitely be missed.
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On December 19 2007 07:26 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2007 06:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
eh....wc3 better than starcraft? since when... please keep this discussion out of this thread. Anyone else attempting to do so will feel the wrath of Thor.
Thor has particle beams, not a hammer 
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wow i didn't know puerto rican was a progamer, or did i misread something? Says he's from the U.S. so maybe it was about someone else. Either way, nice story :D
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On December 19 2007 10:14 Orlandu wrote:
He was one of the most well-mannered..... He was a rolemodel.....
While I agree he wasn't a bad person, it still amazes me how short of a memory gamers do possess. That link does leave out information (Insomnia played on three different friend's accounts - Wizard just eliminated two of them before Insomnia figured out how to counter his b/o trying to qualify DIDI8's account). Insomnia himself was already qualified from a LAN in his home country.
He has, of course, changed since then. But I still would not rank him as a rolemodel or one of the most well-mannered players as I can think of better candidates, such as Grubby or ToD. Personal opinion though, of course.
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lol, tod well-mannered, best joke ever.
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On December 20 2007 01:46 soonsu wrote:
lol, tod well-mannered, best joke ever.
I'm dead serious. I've never once read anything about ToD doing anything that wasn't on the up and up. He has even attempted to stand up for player's rights against unfair tournament conditions, losing guarenteed money in the process (true, people laughed at him for it, but tournament organizers are truly treating competitors like crap nowadays).
These things scream "well-mannered" more than any stupid sweet talk. Actions speak louder than words, but again, only my opinion.
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On December 19 2007 18:20 lololol wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2007 07:26 Beyonder wrote:On December 19 2007 06:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
eh....wc3 better than starcraft? since when... please keep this discussion out of this thread. Anyone else attempting to do so will feel the wrath of Thor. Thor has particle beams, not a hammer
I beg to differ.
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On December 20 2007 01:58 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2007 18:20 lololol wrote:On December 19 2007 07:26 Beyonder wrote:On December 19 2007 06:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
eh....wc3 better than starcraft? since when... please keep this discussion out of this thread. Anyone else attempting to do so will feel the wrath of Thor. Thor has particle beams, not a hammer I beg to differ.
It was a joke intended with SC2's Thor  , which (I guess) is supposed to have particle beams. But let's not get off-topic.
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No offense Bluewolf, but if you rate ToD's antics more well-mannered than your family history with Insomnia, then it's really hard to take what you say seriously regarding the concept of manners.
Regardless of what Insomnia may or may not have done, the wrong he has committed is far less than most players out there, especially ToD. I like ToD, I've even met him personally several times and I have nothing bad to say about him from that, but the fact remains that he is a very whiny person who lets his anger control him and who is unable to focus on his own mistakes while he instead comes up with excuses or just ignores his problems. He's very openly rude to people at times. That's not what good manners consist of. That doesn't necessarily make him a bad person though, it just means he has bad manners.
No one can be perfect. And people do make mistakes. How one reacts to those mistakes is what sets them apart. Insomnia may have made a mistake, but it seems he has learned from it as apparently that's the only negative example that you can come up with, and that's mainly just because your brother was the "victim." You don't see ToD attempting to fix his mistakes too often.
The point is, yeah, everyone's done something wrong in their life before. But look at Insomnia, and look at everyone else. He's a pretty "clean" guy, and I'd be really surprised if you could come up with anything else bad to say about him. To be honest your example seems more like a display of your own bad manners because you seem unable to let go of something from the distant past, that is to forgive and forget (or at least forgive), while Insomnia has realized his mistake and learned from it. Regardless of this, he still boasts some of the best manners out there and is the epitome of loyalty, having never switched teams in his entire WarCraft 3 career.
He's a special guy, whether he has inconvenienced Wizard in the past or not.
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I thought Sky's rant about how annoying a 'certain player' was was hilarious. (ToD). Always wanting to practice! Always getting mad at you if you said no! "NO! You can't go have dinner! more practice!" ahhh.
I agree with Orlandu, Insomnia had some of the best manners in War3's history.
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Orlandu said it all, that guy always has to make up for excuses after losing games to basically anyone.
I recall that, after losing some games in a tournament in China, he even claimed that "the heat was too warm, I wasn't able to play normally" yes, indeed...
But that's nothing to do with his skills, he's good yeah but by far one of the worst-mannered players I've ever known.
Insomnia is hell of funny and nice though, always enjoyed playing some DotA games with him
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