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WinterWoes
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia450 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 10:26:00
November 14 2017 08:32 GMT
#1

Intel Extreme Masters Season XII Oakland


Tuesday, Nov 14 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Intel_Extreme_Masters/Season_XII/Oakland

Streams


ESL TV | ESL TV B

HenryG | Sadokist | JustHarry
moses | BLU | JamezIRL

Teams








Format


  • Group Stage
    • Two round-robin format groups (6 teams each)
    • Bo1 matches
    • Wins in regulation time receive 3pts
    • Wins in overtime receive 2pts, losers receive 1pt
    • Top team in each group advances to the semifinals
    • Second and third teams in each group advance to the quarterfinals

  • Playoffs
    • Single elimination bracket
    • Quarterfinals and Semifinals are Bo3
    • Grand final is Bo5

Results


+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +




+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +




+ Show Spoiler [Playoffs] +



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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 14 2017 08:49 GMT
#2
Lets go SK featuring Boltz!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
November 14 2017 09:17 GMT
#3
eZaF 4 FaZe
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
November 14 2017 12:42 GMT
#4
Man, I was so looking forward to see Liquid play with Steel, but every Liquid game is past midnight in my time zone xD
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Duckman
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
November 14 2017 19:20 GMT
#5
On November 14 2017 17:49 Pandemona wrote:
Lets go SK featuring Boltz!

What's the deal with this? Is Boltz a full-time member of SK now?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 14 2017 19:31 GMT
#6
On November 15 2017 04:20 Duckman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2017 17:49 Pandemona wrote:
Lets go SK featuring Boltz!

What's the deal with this? Is Boltz a full-time member of SK now?

He will be yes, at the moment felps still on roster for major as they can't replace him for that without losing there place. But after that felps goes and boltz probably comes in full time. As for now it is treated as a "loan" but with steel going to Liquid i think the whole roster will be done.
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Duckman
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
November 14 2017 22:40 GMT
#7
On November 15 2017 04:31 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 04:20 Duckman wrote:
On November 14 2017 17:49 Pandemona wrote:
Lets go SK featuring Boltz!

What's the deal with this? Is Boltz a full-time member of SK now?

He will be yes, at the moment felps still on roster for major as they can't replace him for that without losing there place. But after that felps goes and boltz probably comes in full time. As for now it is treated as a "loan" but with steel going to Liquid i think the whole roster will be done.

Seems to be the case. I thought felps was just on vacation or something for the last tournament but it appears I was mistaken.
Thanks!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 14 2017 22:50 GMT
#8
Cloud9 looking good haha. Lets see where they take things from here.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 15 2017 08:43 GMT
#9
Astralis losing to NIP and Clown9 jesus! They are in a bit of a mess lately but it is only bo1 group stage hard to draw from that i guess.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
November 15 2017 11:19 GMT
#10
To be honest, as long as you can get out of groups its gucci

the real tournament starts on the play offs
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 17:35:33
November 15 2017 17:33 GMT
#11
On November 15 2017 04:31 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 04:20 Duckman wrote:
On November 14 2017 17:49 Pandemona wrote:
Lets go SK featuring Boltz!

What's the deal with this? Is Boltz a full-time member of SK now?

He will be yes, at the moment felps still on roster for major as they can't replace him for that without losing there place. But after that felps goes and boltz probably comes in full time. As for now it is treated as a "loan" but with steel going to Liquid i think the whole roster will be done.


They can replace him, they just cant play with Boltz or any other player that is locked with another team (boltz played the minor for Immortals). You only need 3 out of 5 of the players with the major invite to hold the spot.

So for example if KNG, Heni and Lucas get +2 (fnx,bit) and want to play the major they can.

Duckman
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
November 15 2017 23:01 GMT
#12
This scoring system is confusing! Was expecting C9 to crash out after losing 2 games so badly earlier today but Skadoodle so clutch against SK on Train, then Nip beat NV so they're confirmed in now, right?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 16 2017 03:18 GMT
#13
On November 16 2017 08:01 Duckman wrote:
This scoring system is confusing! Was expecting C9 to crash out after losing 2 games so badly earlier today but Skadoodle so clutch against SK on Train, then Nip beat NV so they're confirmed in now, right?


The only thing different about the scoring system is that OT wins give you two points and OT loses give you 1.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 16 2017 08:31 GMT
#14
Haha Astralis out cuz SK lost to c9 xD wonder if they did that on purpose knowing they were already through to the next round!
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 13:45:56
November 16 2017 13:45 GMT
#15
On November 16 2017 17:31 Pandemona wrote:
Haha Astralis out cuz SK lost to c9 xD wonder if they did that on purpose knowing they were already through to the next round!


They werent though. There were scenarios where NIP losing to Envy wouldnt allow them to qualify at all. Losing also removed the possibility of first/second place and now having to play Faze in the semis should they win in the quarters.

You can stop wonder now.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 16 2017 13:49 GMT
#16
If NIP lost to EnvyUs they go to 3-2 and SK have the better record vs all those on 3-2 minus Clown9 in head to head at least.

SK > EnvyUs/NiP/Mongolz
Astralis/Clown9 > SK

So surely that means SK were through no matter what ?
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 14:13:16
November 16 2017 14:10 GMT
#17
On November 16 2017 22:49 Pandemona wrote:
If NIP lost to EnvyUs they go to 3-2 and SK have the better record vs all those on 3-2 minus Clown9 in head to head at least.

SK > EnvyUs/NiP/Mongolz
Astralis/Clown9 > SK

So surely that means SK were through no matter what ?


No, because then all 3 teams woud have had a 2-1 record. Against the top 4 not just SK. I am not going to spell it out for you, apply your own formula to the rest of the 3-2 teams.

Then it goes to RD which had Envyus won in regulation, with SK's battering would have probably pushed them poast SK.

The only way to guarantee qualification independent of other results was to get to 15 rounds minimum.

In any case they were not guaranteed qualification and its monumentally stupid to not care because first place and a direct spot in the semis was on the line.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
November 16 2017 14:17 GMT
#18
True but SK like Astralis would always fancy themselves in a bo3 against anyone so i guess getting out of group was priority number 1. Yes having a semi final vs Faze isn't the best way to win this tournament but i am more than confident SK will win this tournament in bo3s now.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 15:01:50
November 16 2017 14:59 GMT
#19
On November 16 2017 23:17 Pandemona wrote:
True but SK like Astralis would always fancy themselves in a bo3 against anyone so i guess getting out of group was priority number 1. Yes having a semi final vs Faze isn't the best way to win this tournament but i am more than confident SK will win this tournament in bo3s now.


Sure and a 100% chance of achieving priority number 1 was to take the game against C9 at a minimum to overtime and ideally, win.

If they fancy themselves in a BO3 against anyone, then it further suggests, that to them, it doesnt matter whether Astralis qualify or not.

The bottom line is securing your own qualification and it was not secure.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 15:02:20
November 16 2017 15:01 GMT
#20
Indeed but in fairness, clown9 are SKs bogey team in bo1s at least! Still onto Optic today should hopefully be a good warm up before Faze

Yeah Astralis thing was more "bants" because Astralis in a rough patch at the moment. Struggled to do anything in Epicenter as well, but Faze also were poor there too.
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